Give it a try....
I some times use Yahoo Mexico for searching for names,
places, relatives, in Mexico, and I've had some
limited success.  Last week I found a doctor in
Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, with the same last surnames as
mine, but reversed (Prieto Duarte).  She listed her
birthplace as Jerez, Zacatecas! Now all I have to do
is find here email address.

Good luck.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California 

--- Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

> do a google on Las Llamas, Zacatecas. here is one
> hit although I didn't 
> find out if its the same Rancho next to 
> Tlaltenango. do the translate 
> to english on it:
> 
> Leyendas de Zacatecas
> <http://www.familiallamas.net/id18.html> - [ 
> Translate this page 
>
<http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.familiallamas.net/id18.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlas%2Bllamas,%2Bzacatecas%26complete%3D1%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG>
> 
> ]La Pagina de los Llamas. Leyendas de Zacatecas ...
> Los filones de plata 
> zacatecanos eran más reales y tangibles que las
> riquezas de Cíbola y 
> Quivira. ...
> www.familiallamas.net/id18.html - 26k - Aug 11, 2005
> - Cached 
>
<http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Z_lwM5j-bI4J:www.familiallamas.net/id18.html+las+llamas,+zacatecas&hl=en>
> 
> - Similar pages 
>
<http://www.google.com/search?complete=1&hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.familiallamas.net/id18.html>
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 
> Peggy Delgado wrote:
> 
> > This may be a lame question, but if a Rancho is
> listed as the birth 
> > place, what does that really mean?  How do I find
> the histories of 
> > these ranches on the roles people played in them? 
> What that 
> > information be on the same website?  I haven't
> really looked and I 
> > don't understand Spanish too well although I can
> try and muddle my way 
> > through. 
> >  
> > I'd appreciate any insight.
> >  
> > Peggy
> >  
> > p.s. the Ranchos I'm interested in are Las Llamas
> and Encinillas, both 
> > outside of Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
> Zacatecas.
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On
> >     Behalf Of Alberto Duarte
> >     Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 6:27 AM
> >     To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> >     Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto -
> Gracias
> >
> >     There is a ranch just outside of Jerez called
> Lo de
> >     Luna.  Many of my ancestors came from this
> ranch. I
> >     believe my  uncles (Garcia de la Cadena
> branch)
> >     purchased the ranch from the Munoz family in
> the early
> >     1700's.
> >
> >     Alberto Duarte Prieto
> >     Santa Maria, California
> >
> >     --- latina1955@... wrote:
> >
> >     > Rosalinda,
> >     > This site is facinating.  I looked up
> Herrera, and
> >     > there appears to be a rancho en Los Altos de
> Jalisco
> >     > and Luna in Jerez!  Now while this may be a
> very
> >     > remote possibility, perhaps the families
> from the
> >     > areas are related to those from Tlaltenango.
>  Or, it
> >     > could mean that there were lots of baptisms
> being
> >     > performed on the indigenous populations, and
> they
> >     > ran out of surnames.....
> >     > 
> >     > Esperanza (Chicago area)
> >     > 
> >     > -----Original Message-----
> >     > From: lareina2@...
> >     > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> >     > Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:09:46 -0700
> (GMT-07:00)
> >     > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto
> -
> >     > Gracias
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Hi Helyn--
> >     > 
> >     > If you click on this link:
> >     >
> http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
> >     > , it is a geographic dictionary and lists
> many of
> >     > the ranchos and cities in Mexico, in
> alphabetical
> >     > order.  Click on M, and then scroll down to
> the link
> >     > for Muertos, which happens to be on page
> 152, volume
> >     > 4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under
> Muerto, and 5
> >     > under Muertos, with other variations
> included.  I
> >     > love this website, as it often helps me
> identify
> >     > towns or ranchos  that are unfamiliar to me.
>  There
> >     > is a rancho named Muertos near Tepetongo,
> which is
> >     > near Jerez.
> >     > 
> >     > Rosalinda
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > -----Original Message-----
> >     > From: Santos Luna
> >     > Sent: Aug 11, 2005 9:49 PM
> >     > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> >     > Subject: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto -
> Gracias
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Arturo & Emilie:
> >     > Thank you both for your  most useful
> information. I
> >     > am now in the midst of pursuing all of the
> avenues I
> >     > was given. My sincere "mil gracias" for your
> time in
> >     > coming to my rescue.
> >     > Helyn
> >     >
> >     > Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...>
> wrote:
> >     > From what I have been able to gather there
> are two
> >     > places called
> >     > Ranch del Muerto in Mexico.
> >     >
> >     > One is in Chihuahua.  The other is in
> >     > Aguascalientes.  There is a
> >     > place on modern maps in the municipality of
> Rincon
> >     > de Romos called
> >     > Puerta del Muerto, which may be it and the
> other is
> >     > a place just near
> >     > Aguascalientes (the city) called Cerro del
> Muerto.
> >     >
> >     > Given the proximity of Tlaltenango to
> >     > Aguascalientes, that is
> >     > probably where you should search.  There is
> someone
> >     > who refers to el
> >     > Rancho del Muerto in their geneaology as
> well:
> >     >
> >     > www.somosprimos.com/spsep02.htm
> >     >
> >     > And a map:
> >     >
> >     >
> >    
>
http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/ags/3-cosio-aguascalientes-mexico-
> >     > map.shtml
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Santos Luna
> >     > <mistyriver123@y...>
> >     > wrote:
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > In a marriage record for a Magallanas
> ancestor,
> >     > Tlaltenango - 1764,
> >     > he is listed as being from "Rancho del
> Muerto".
> >     > (Hmmm I wonder how
> >     > that rancho was named). Has anyone
> encountered
> >     > ancestors from this
> >     > rancho? I am looking for other possible
> >     > connections...especially,
> 
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size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Alberto
Duarte
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 6:27 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto
- Gracias

There is a ranch just outside of Jerez
called Lo de
Luna.  Many of my ancestors came from this ranch.
I
believe my  uncles (Garcia de la Cadena branch)
purchased the
ranch from the Munoz family in the early
1700's.

Alberto Duarte
Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- latina1955@...
wrote:

> Rosalinda,
> This site is facinating.  I looked
up Herrera, and
> there appears to be a rancho en Los Altos de
Jalisco
> and Luna in Jerez!  Now while this may be a very
>
remote possibility, perhaps the families from the
> areas are related to
those from Tlaltenango.  Or, it
> could mean that there were lots
of baptisms being
> performed on the indigenous populations, and
they
> ran out of surnames.....
> 
> Esperanza
(Chicago area)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
lareina2@...
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu,
11 Aug 2005 22:09:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re:
Rancho del Muerto -
> Gracias
>
>
> Hi
Helyn--
> 
> If you click on this link:
>
href="http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm">http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
>
, it is a geographic dictionary and lists many of
> the ranchos and
cities in Mexico, in alphabetical
> order.  Click on M, and then
scroll down to the link
> for Muertos, which happens to be on page 152,
volume
> 4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under Muerto, and
5
> under Muertos, with other variations included.  I
> love
this website, as it often helps me identify
> towns or ranchos 
that are unfamiliar to me.  There
> is a rancho named Muertos near
Tepetongo, which is
> near Jerez.
> 
>
Rosalinda
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Santos Luna
> Sent: Aug 11, 2005 9:49 PM
> To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto -
Gracias
>
>
> Arturo & Emilie:
> Thank you both
for your  most useful information. I
> am now in the midst of
pursuing all of the avenues I
> was given. My sincere "mil gracias" for
your time in
> coming to my rescue.
> Helyn
>
>
Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...> wrote:
> From what I have
been able to gather there are two
> places called
> Ranch del
Muerto in Mexico.
>
> One is in Chihuahua.  The other is
in
> Aguascalientes.  There is a
> place on modern maps in
the municipality of Rincon
> de Romos called
> Puerta del Muerto,
which may be it and the other is
> a place just near
>
Aguascalientes (the city) called Cerro del Muerto.
>
> Given the
proximity of Tlaltenango to
> Aguascalientes, that is
> probably
where you should search.  There is someone
> who refers to el

> Rancho del Muerto in their geneaology as well:
>
>
www.somosprimos.com/spsep02.htm
>
> And a map:
>

>

href="http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/ags/3-cosio-aguascalientes-mexico-">http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/ags/3-cosio-aguascalientes-mexico-
>
map.shtml
>
>
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Santos
Luna
> <mistyriver123@y...>
> wrote:
> >
>
>
> > In a marriage record for a Magallanas ancestor,
>
Tlaltenango - 1764,
> he is listed as being from "Rancho del
Muerto".
> (Hmmm I wonder how
> that rancho was named). Has
anyone encountered
> ancestors from this
> rancho? I am looking
for other possible
> connections...especially,
> since many of
the families in these ranchos were
> related.
> >
> >
Another big "Thank You" to Emilie from Port
> Orchard. I have been

> referring to an e-mail that you sent me March
> 2003...valuable
info as
> this is the line of a Magallanas that I am currently
>

> assisting...Gracias...
> >
> > Helyn
> >

> >
> >
> >
> >
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There is a ranch just outside of Jerez called Lo de
Luna.  Many of my ancestors came from this ranch. I
believe my  uncles (Garcia de la Cadena branch)
purchased the ranch from the Munoz family in the early
1700's.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- latina1955@... wrote:

> Rosalinda,
> This site is facinating.  I looked up Herrera, and
> there appears to be a rancho en Los Altos de Jalisco
> and Luna in Jerez!  Now while this may be a very
> remote possibility, perhaps the families from the
> areas are related to those from Tlaltenango.  Or, it
> could mean that there were lots of baptisms being
> performed on the indigenous populations, and they
> ran out of surnames.....
>  
> Esperanza (Chicago area)
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lareina2@...
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:09:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto -
> Gracias
> 
> 
> Hi Helyn--
>  
> If you click on this link:
> http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
> , it is a geographic dictionary and lists many of
> the ranchos and cities in Mexico, in alphabetical
> order.  Click on M, and then scroll down to the link
> for Muertos, which happens to be on page 152, volume
> 4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under Muerto, and 5
> under Muertos, with other variations included.  I
> love this website, as it often helps me identify
> towns or ranchos  that are unfamiliar to me.  There
> is a rancho named Muertos near Tepetongo, which is
> near Jerez.
>  
> Rosalinda
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Santos Luna 
> Sent: Aug 11, 2005 9:49 PM 
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto - Gracias 
> 
> 
> Arturo & Emilie:
> Thank you both for your  most useful information. I
> am now in the midst of pursuing all of the avenues I
> was given. My sincere "mil gracias" for your time in
> coming to my rescue.
> Helyn
> 
> Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...> wrote:
> From what I have been able to gather there are two
> places called 
> Ranch del Muerto in Mexico.
> 
> One is in Chihuahua.  The other is in
> Aguascalientes.  There is a 
> place on modern maps in the municipality of Rincon
> de Romos called 
> Puerta del Muerto, which may be it and the other is
> a place just near 
> Aguascalientes (the city) called Cerro del Muerto.
> 
> Given the proximity of Tlaltenango to
> Aguascalientes, that is 
> probably where you should search.  There is someone
> who refers to el 
> Rancho del Muerto in their geneaology as well:
> 
> www.somosprimos.com/spsep02.htm
> 
> And a map:
> 
>
http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/ags/3-cosio-aguascalientes-mexico-
> map.shtml
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Santos Luna
> <mistyriver123@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > In a marriage record for a Magallanas ancestor,
> Tlaltenango - 1764, 
> he is listed as being from "Rancho del Muerto".
> (Hmmm I wonder how 
> that rancho was named). Has anyone encountered
> ancestors from this 
> rancho? I am looking for other possible
> connections...especially, 
> since many of the families in these ranchos were
> related.
> > 
> > Another big "Thank You" to Emilie from Port
> Orchard. I have been 
> referring to an e-mail that you sent me March
> 2003...valuable info as 
> this is the line of a Magallanas that I am currently
> 
> assisting...Gracias...
> > 
> > Helyn
> > 
> > 
> > 
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