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Perdon. I'm one of the foot draggers you've just describe. My apologies and request that you keep me connected until I can manage things a little better. I read all that comes across, always looking for a connection, so this exercise is not anyones waste of time. I want to fully describe what I have so far but may not be free to do so until after the holidays. I hope that's OK?/Adelante    

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From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>
Sent: Nov 23, 2004 3:09 PM
To: LosRanchos <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder

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Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting, well I'm a Turkey
boy as on some years my birthday falls right on Thanksgiving but not
this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, happy
birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to sharpen my Axe for the
holidays.<br>
 <br>
. . . .Sorry to be so blunt but this group is not a free ride for
anyone. [mind you its almost free as in some communication will
definitely buy you a by]. . .enough of the riddles. . . .<br>
                 . . .if you haven't submitted your genealogy <b><big>[as
in never ever]</big></b> you need to communicate with me as to when you
are going to send it. When you send it to me I'll make up a file in the
non public files with your name, email address, and geographical
locations that includes your submission. <u><b>If you are not ready
fine, just communicate with me</b></u>. How about we establish an
ultimate deadline of April 15th [Maybe those that need to give to the
Feds will not feel bad about giving a little more in the form of their
absent genealogy submission]. <br>
<br>
<big><big><b><big>What I'll expect:</big></b></big></big><br>
    1) your genealogy in .rtf or .doc format preferably as a genealogy
report but it could be submitted in an email<br>
<br>
    2) or communication with me via a private email explaining why you
need more time and approximately how much more time would be
appropriate to the task. [<u><b>forget the why part, that's your
business, just tell me the when part</b></u>].<br>
<br>
    3) other (something I haven't thought about, but this would still
require some kind of communication on your part)<br>
<br>
So everyone that wants to remain a part of this group needs to do some
homework between now and April 15th, 2005. You need to go to the
"files" and "Links" and see if there is an entry for your genealogy
there. <big><big><b>IF you don't find one communicate with me</b></big>.
</big><br>
<br>
REMINDER: this email doesn't apply to those good folks that have
already submitted something. Now of course it would be nice if you
would update your files and add new findings but maybe some are waiting
for the non participants to be removed before updating. SO IF YOU HAVE
ALREADY SUBMITTED YOUR WORK AND YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE FILES OR LINKS
DON'T SWEAT THIS EMAIL. MY AXE IS NOT BEING SHARPENED FOR YOU!<br>
<br>
happy thanksgiving,<br>
<br>
joseph the Axe Grinder<br>
<br>
ps: are there any Flores from Jalisco or Zacatecas in the group, I
can't remember?<br>


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In a message dated 11/24/2004 3:09:12 PM Central Standard Time, alice_wissing@... writes:


Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This Villavicencio (Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the conquistadores of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also descended from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as my Tia Carmen heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble and rich, how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed it?"  Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a Tess of the D'Urbervilles situation!!!!

Hi, on my Villarreal side, one of my distant cousins supposedly can trace our family to Spain's royal family.  This has been known in my family for generations.  When I first found out about it, I asked my aunt why she had not shared it with the next generation.  She responded: "That's not who we are today".  How true, I thought.  But they still like to bring it up, especially because coming from a "good family with a good name" was viewed as more important than your own qualities/personality. I guess that is the inheritance we received from the Espanoles....

 

Esperanza

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Marge,

 

You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family to the Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and supposedly they descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people laugh hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former President Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that elicits more laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, CA to pick lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem unreal to people. 

 

Alicia      

marge vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:

Dear Joseph,

Attached is my family history from my grandmother, Altagracia Gonzalez.  Please look it over and ensure that it starts with her.  I'm sorry it's a zip file and I think a Gedcom.  I converted it from PAF.5

 

Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This Villavicencio (Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the conquistadores of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also descended from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as my Tia Carmen heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble and rich, how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed it?"  Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a Tess of the D'Urbervilles situation!!!!

 

Let me know if this is acceptable to you...Birthday Boy.  Have a good one.  Sincerely, Marge Vallazza:)


----- Original Message -----



Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:09 PM

Subject: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder



Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting, well I'm a Turkey boy as on some years my birthday falls right on Thanksgiving but not this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, happy birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to sharpen my Axe for the holidays.
 
. . . .Sorry to be so blunt but this group is not a free ride for anyone. [mind you its almost free as in some communication will definitely buy you a by]. . .enough of the riddles. . . .
                 . . .if you haven't submitted your genealogy [as in never ever] you need to communicate with me as to when you are going to send it. When you send it to me I'll make up a file in the non public files with your name, email address, and geographical locations that includes your submission. If you are not ready fine, just communicate with me. How about we
establish an ultimate deadline of April 15th [Maybe those that need to give to the Feds will not feel bad about giving a little more in the form of their absent genealogy submission].

What I'll expect:
    1) your genealogy in .rtf or .doc format preferably as a genealogy report but it could be submitted in an email

    2) or communication with me via a private email explaining why you need more time and approximately how much more time would be appropriate to the task. [forget the why part, that's your business, just tell me the when part].

    3) other (something I haven't thought about, but this would still require some kind of communication on your part)

So everyone that wants to remain a part of this group needs to do some homework between now and April 15th, 2005. You need to go to the "files" and "Links" and see if there is an entry for your
genealogy there. IF you don't find one communicate with me.

REMINDER: this email doesn't apply to those good folks that have already submitted something. Now of course it would be nice if you would update your files and add new findings but maybe some are waiting for the non participants to be removed before updating. SO IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED YOUR WORK AND YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE FILES OR LINKS DON'T SWEAT THIS EMAIL. MY AXE IS NOT BEING SHARPENED FOR YOU!

happy thanksgiving,

joseph the Axe Grinder

ps: are there any Flores from Jalisco or Zacatecas in the group, I can't remember?




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Dear Joseph,

Attached is my family history from my grandmother,
Altagracia Gonzalez.  Please look it over and ensure that it starts with
her.  I'm sorry it's a zip file and I think a Gedcom.  I converted it
from PAF.5

 

Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is
what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into
the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This
Villavicencio (Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the
conquistadores of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also
descended from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as my
Tia Carmen heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble and
rich, how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed it?" 
Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a Tess of the
D'Urbervilles situation!!!!

 

Let me know if this is acceptable to you...Birthday
Boy.  Have a good one.  Sincerely, Marge Vallazza:)


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----- Original Message -----


style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Joseph Puentes


Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:09
PM

Subject: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder



Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting, well
I'm a Turkey boy as on some years my birthday falls right on Thanksgiving but
not this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, happy
birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to sharpen my Axe for the
holidays.
 
. . . .Sorry to be so blunt but this group is not a
free ride for anyone. [mind you its almost free as in some communication will
definitely buy you a by]. . .enough of the riddles. . .
.
                
. . .if you haven't submitted your genealogy [as in never
ever]
you need to communicate with me as to when you are going to
send it. When you send it to me I'll make up a file in the non public files
with your name, email address, and geographical locations that includes your
submission. If you are not ready fine, just communicate with me.
How about we establish an ultimate deadline of April 15th [Maybe those that
need to give to the Feds will not feel bad about giving a little more in the
form of their absent genealogy submission].

What
I'll expect:

    1) your genealogy in
.rtf or .doc format preferably as a genealogy report but it could be submitted
in an email

    2) or communication with me via a
private email explaining why you need more time and approximately how much
more time would be appropriate to the task. [forget the why part, that's
your business, just tell me the when part
].

   
3) other (something I haven't thought about, but this would still require some
kind of communication on your part)

So everyone that wants to remain a
part of this group needs to do some homework between now and April 15th, 2005.
You need to go to the "files" and "Links" and see if there is an entry for
your genealogy there. IF you don't find one communicate with
me
.


REMINDER: this email doesn't apply to those good
folks that have already submitted something. Now of course it would be nice if
you would update your files and add new findings but maybe some are waiting
for the non participants to be removed before updating. SO IF YOU HAVE ALREADY
SUBMITTED YOUR WORK AND YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE FILES OR LINKS DON'T SWEAT THIS
EMAIL. MY AXE IS NOT BEING SHARPENED FOR YOU!

happy
thanksgiving,

joseph the Axe Grinder

ps: are there any Flores
from Jalisco or Zacatecas in the group, I can't remember?


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losranchos1.zip


Description: Zip compressed data

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My Saldivars also supposedly are connected by
marriage to Moctezuma, too!  Small world, huh?  Anyway, it's only myth
so far.  Marge:) 


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alice
wissing


Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:06
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder



Marge,

 

You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family to the
Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and supposedly they
descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people laugh
hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former President
Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that elicits more
laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, CA to pick
lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem unreal to
people. 

 

Alicia      

marge vallazza
<TeaCozyGran@...>
wrote:

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Dear Joseph,

Attached is my family history from my
grandmother, Altagracia Gonzalez.  Please look it over and ensure that
it starts with her.  I'm sorry it's a zip file and I think a
Gedcom.  I converted it from PAF.5

 

Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is
what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married
into the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This
Villavicencio (Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the
conquistadores of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also
descended from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as
my Tia Carmen heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble
and rich, how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed
it?"  Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a
Tess of the D'Urbervilles situation!!!!

 

Let me know if this is acceptable to
you...Birthday Boy.  Have a good one.  Sincerely, Marge
Vallazza:)


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----- Original Message -----


style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Joseph Puentes


Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:09
PM

Subject: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder



Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting,
well I'm a Turkey boy as on some years my birthday falls right on
Thanksgiving but not this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to
everyone, happy birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to sharpen my
Axe for the holidays.
 
. . . .Sorry to be so blunt but this
group is not a free ride for anyone. [mind you its almost free as in some
communication will definitely buy you a by]. . .enough of the riddles. . .
.
                
. . .if you haven't submitted your genealogy [as in never
ever]
you need to communicate with me as to when you are going
to send it. When you send it to me I'll make up a file in the non public
files with your name, email address, and geographical locations that
includes your submission. If you are not ready fine, just
communicate with me
. How a! bout we establish an ultimate deadline
of April 15th [Maybe those that need to give to the Feds will not feel bad
about giving a little more in the form of their absent genealogy
submission].

What I'll
expect:

    1) your genealogy in
.rtf or .doc format preferably as a genealogy report but it could be
submitted in an email

    2) or communication with
me via a private email explaining why you need more time and approximately
how much more time would be appropriate to the task. [forget the why
part, that's your business, just tell me the when
part
].

    3) other (something I haven't
thought about, but this would still require some kind of communication on
your part)

So everyone that wants to remain a part of this group
needs to do some homework between now and April 15th, 2005. You need to go
to the "files" and "Links" and see if there is an entry for y! our
genealogy there. IF you don't find one communicate with
me
.


REMINDER: this email doesn't apply to those
good folks that have already submitted something. Now of course it would
be nice if you would update your files and add new findings but maybe some
are waiting for the non participants to be removed before updating. SO IF
YOU HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED YOUR WORK AND YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE FILES OR
LINKS DON'T SWEAT THIS EMAIL. MY AXE IS NOT BEING SHARPENED FOR
YOU!

happy thanksgiving,

joseph the Axe Grinder

ps:
are there any Flores from Jalisco or Zacatecas in the group, I can't
remember?




> ATTACHMENT part 2
application/x-zip-compressed
name=losranchos1.zip




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