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I think the requirements should remain the same.
ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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the same as now; or less Strict?
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My opinion is to be more strict. Maria-Elena Gutierrez
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face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=2> Since I have not been able to find hardly any information about my Dad for a family tree, I vote for "less strict". PTSIZE="10">A. Garza |
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I think it should be the same or less strict. This site can be inspiring for others to begin their research, particularly if a connection was found.
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Joseph:
I go for "fair but restrict'.....we can also join Jonathan's group.
Mickey
I go for "fair but restrict'.....we can also join Jonathan's group.
Mickey
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----- Original Message -----
From: "elviraz" <elviraz@...>
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [ranchos] New poll for ranchos
Joseph, I have always been a little puzzled as to why San Luis Potosi is not part of Ranchos. Seems to me it should since part of San Luis Potosi at one time used to part of the region of Zacatecas. One of my greatgrandfathers was bornin SLP when part of it belonged to the region of Zacatecas.
By the way, he called himself Zacatecano. The Zavalas have
always been from Zacatecas. It seems to me that we need a good history lesson as to where the boundaries were for the 1800s and before, where most of us are going with our genealogy. The boundaries for the reinos changed according to the person reporting the information. I think we need to define the Ranchos area of coverage to cover the actual physical boundaries of where Jalisco, Zacateacas and Aguascalientes really were according to the historiacal era and area. If we are using the present bundaries we are not being accurate for historical orgenalogical purposes.
And, yes, the name is a little misleading because I do not see much discusion about the ranchos we were supposed to be finding out about. Elvira ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Irma GomezLucero" <igomezlucero@...> To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [ranchos] New poll for ranchos Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:21:27 -0800Joseph, I know that I'm biased, but I'd like to keep it to the states: Jalisco, Aguascalientes & Zacatecas (Nueva Galicia), but I can also just delete the info from the states I'm not interested in. My ancestors seem to stay in the same place... Irma ________________________________ From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Emilie Garcia Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:57 AM To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ranchos] New poll for ranchos Joseph,
I voted to restrict membership to those researching the
three states, simply because the farther out from Jerez-Tepetongo, Zacatecas (and a little from Jalisco and Zacatecas) the group's ancestors are to be found, the less familiar names I find in the files.
I was wondering if you asked those people that inquired
about joining this group that have ancestors in other areas why they wanted to join our group. Is it the name "ranchos" that is misleading? Is it because they can't find a group that pertains to their areas of interest and just like what they see (files, discussions, resources, podcasts, etc.) on "ranchos"? I myself was thrilled that Arturo posted that file on Tlaltenango even though it is not a town where my current research has led me. However, after printing out the file and reading it carefully, I found my husband's ancestors, the Cervantes and Garcias listed. (Now how to bridge the gap from those folks to the ones I have found in the late 1700s in Jalisco in Encarnacion de Diaz, Real de Asientos, Lagos de Moreno, Teocaltiche, Rincon de Romos, Jolostotitlan---some of these are in Aguascalientes). I also got a glimpse of life , government, and social structure in the area in the early 1600's. I sure wish the map attached to that report in the file had survived these 400 years.
In that file about Tlaltenango I see mention of Nueva
Galicia. What current states or parts thereof comprised Nueva Galicia? Would a group for descendants of Nueva Galicia encompass too many current states? I think there was a Nueva Leon, Nueva Espana, Nueva Mexico. Where was Durango? You already are running two groups, and I think I would like to see a third group that follows the migration from our areas through San Luis Potosi to southern Chihuahua State before they went up to Juarez, El Paso and New Mexico and Arizona and California, since I know that some of our group had ancestors that took that route. Then I am aware that several in the group were born in or had more recent ancestors such as parents/grandparents that came directly from our area inMexico to California.
The reason I mention San Luis Potosi, Durango and southern
Chihuahua (Hidalgo del Parral, Ciudad Chihuahua, Delicias, General de Trias, Santa Ysabel, etc) is that my husband's family seemed to have made stops there before continuing on to Juarez and El Paso then to California.
Well, Joseph, you have made this group so attractive that
people seem to want to join just to access all the neat things you have put up for the group. It wants to grow like Topsy!
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:15 AM
Subject: [ranchos] New poll for ranchos
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created
for the
ranchos group:
From time to time people not from our geographical
area express intereste in Ranchos. Here is my answer:
maybe there is a misunderstanding. we are focused on
the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes. I don't understand why you would be interested in this group? Now if you "THINK" that you might have ties to this area then I'll subscribe you for a 1 year temporary membership that we'll reconsider renewing next year depending on how much you've discovered about your Jalisco , Zacatecas and/or Aguascalientes roots or should I say tried to discover.
is this what you'd like to do?
Do you agree with this? Or should I make special
exceptions for those "high quality" researchers that express interest in the group?
I'm torn between being "fair" to all and the possible
benefit to "all" from letting a top researcher into the group.
what do you all think?
So far all of our polls have been invalid for lack of
participation. IF this one is to be valid I'll need 50% of you to weigh in so I can tip the balance. It'd be best if 52% of you weighed in on one side so my vote wouldn't be the deciding factor.
joseph
o Be Fair to all and restrict membership
o Don't restrict we can learn a lot from others
o Do like you're doing
o hijola, good question holmes!
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color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry I should have read your
instructions...
instructions...
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face="Courier New">X Do like you're doing
face="Courier New">Irma
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005
1:16 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] New
poll for ranchos
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for
the
ranchos group:
From time to time people not from our geographical
area express intereste in Ranchos. Here is my answer:
maybe there is a
misunderstanding. we are focused on the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and
Aguascalientes. I don't understand why you would be interested in this group?
Now if you "THINK" that you might have ties to this area then I'll subscribe you
for a 1 year temporary membership that we'll reconsider renewing next year
depending on how much you've discovered about your Jalisco, Zacatecas and/or
Aguascalientes roots or should I say tried to discover.
is this what
you'd like to do?
Do you agree with this? Or should I make special
exceptions for those "high quality" researchers that express interest in the
group?
I'm torn between being "fair" to all and the possible benefit to
"all" from letting a top researcher into the group.
what do you all
think?
So far all of our polls have been invalid for lack of
participation. IF this one is to be valid I'll need 50% of you to weigh in so I
can tip the balance. It'd be best if 52% of you weighed in on one side so my
vote wouldn't be the deciding factor.
joseph
o Be Fair to
all and restrict membership
o Don't restrict we can learn a lot from
others
o Do like you're doing
o hijola, good question
holmes!
To vote, please visit the following web page:
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/surveys?id=1823343">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/surveys?id=1823343
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not
collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site
listed above.
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Joseph, I know that I'm biased, but I'd like to keep it to the states: Jalisco, Aguascalientes & Zacatecas (Nueva Galicia), but I can also just delete the info from the states I'm not interested in. My ancestors seem to stay in the same place... Irma From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Emilie Garcia Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:57 AM To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ranchos] New poll for ranchos Joseph, I voted to restrict membership to those researching the three states, simply because the farther out from Jerez-Tepetongo, Zacatecas (and a little from Jalisco and Zacatecas) the group's ancestors are to be found, the less familiar names I find in the files. I was wondering if you asked those people that inquired about joining this group that have ancestors in other areas why they wanted to join our group. Is it the name "ranchos" that is misleading? Is it because they can't find a group that pertains to their areas of interest and just like what they see (files, discussions, resources, podcasts, etc.) on "ranchos"? I myself was thrilled that Arturo posted that file on Tlaltenango even though it is not a town where my current research has led me. However, after printing out the file and reading it carefully, I found my husband's ancestors, the Cervantes and Garcias listed. (Now how to bridge the gap from those folks to the ones I have found in the late 1700s in Jalisco in Encarnacion de Diaz, Real de Asientos, Lagos de Moreno, Teocaltiche, Rincon de Romos, Jolostotitlan---some of these are in Aguascalientes). I also got a glimpse of life, government, and social structure in the area in the early 1600's. I sure wish the map attached to that report in the file had survived these 400 years. In that file about Tlaltenango I see mention of Nueva Galicia. What current states or parts thereof comprised Nueva Galicia? Would a group for descendants of Nueva Galicia encompass too many current states? I think there was a Nueva Leon, Nueva Espana, Nueva Mexico. Where was Durango? You already are running two groups, and I think I would like to see a third group that follows the migration from our areas through San Luis Potosi to southern Chihuahua State before they went up to Juarez, El Paso and New Mexico and Arizona and California, since I know that some of our group had ancestors that took that route. Then I am aware that several in the group were born in or had more recent ancestors such as parents/grandparents that came directly from our area in Mexico to California. The reason I mention San Luis Potosi, Durango and southern Chihuahua (Hidalgo del Parral, Ciudad Chihuahua, Delicias, General de Trias, Santa Ysabel, etc) is that my husband's family seemed to have made stops there before continuing on to Juarez and El Paso then to California. Well, Joseph, you have made this group so attractive that people seem to want to join just to access all the neat things you have put up for the group. It wants to grow like Topsy! Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA --- ---- Original Message -----
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