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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Alicia
Carrillo

To: href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:15
AM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Trip to
Jalisco, Zacatecas

Erlinda and Arturo,

 

I too found that they will not let you see the actual records. When I
went to Nochistlan Zac they were  quite advanced for a small town in
Mexico. They all had computers at the front office of the Registro Civil. The
records that they did have they printed out certified documents for us based
on what they had in the data base. I was able to come away with 6 certified
documents but they don't let you access their books. When I asked for
documents for my parents of 1925 they said they don't have any books for 1925
they were all destroyed or lost.

 

In Tlachichila the smaller town they have the books but they still won't
let you see the books and there again they did not have records for 1925. I
need to talk to the town historian or read a little history to see what
happened in the year 1925.

I too have had better luck at my local FHC as well as at Salt Lake FHC.
It's still good to visit your ancestor's town but don't expect to see much in
terms of records or archives.
Erlinda Castanon-Long
<longsjourney@...> wrote:

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When I was in El Limon Jalisco in 2003 we went to the parish
office and
talked with the girl in the office who told us we could
not look at the
actual books even though they were on the shelf
behind her.  The
priest walked in and asked what family we were
looking for? My cousin's
husband was trying to find his Santana
ancestors who turned out to be
part of the priests family.  He asked
what year and took out a book
wrapped in plastic because it was
frail.  We opened it and the
pages started turning to dust and
blowing away.  Needless to say we
closed it immediately and thanked
him for allowing us to try.  It's
very dry there and no special
precautions were taken to preserve the
books.
We went to Tamazula de Gordiano Jalisco next and they were so busy

that they gave very poor service telling us they tried but couldn't

find the records.  They had no copy machine so would have to do a

form letter for whatever information was found, came home and found

the records at the local FHC..
In Jerez Zacatecas they didn't have a
copy machine either but were
willing to talk to my cousin who's Spanish
was much better than
mine. I found it was much easier to get the records
at the FHC.  I
didn't try to find land records or any other type of
records though,
that was beyond my abilities to read records. Our time
was limited
so I had to chose what to try to accomplish so I decided to
enjoy
the land and the people.
I hope you have better luck than I
did.
Linda in Everett

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo
Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...>
wrote:
>
> I will be
spending about three weeks this December and January in
> Jalisco and
Zacatecas and am hoping to make it to the parrishes in
> Colotlan and
Tlaltenango, perhaps Atolinga as well as the archives
in
>
Guadalajara...
>
> Question... has anyone ever asked to see the
actual books held at
the
> parrishes?  I am thinking of
asking to photograph some of them,
but
> don't know how well that
would go over.
>
> Any tips would be appreciated.  I am
also going to try to do an
> interview with Esteban Valdes Salazar
who has published some very
good
> genealogy and history books on
Totatiche.  He is the
local "cronista"
> and has obviously
spent lots of time pouring over old archival
> documents, including
the transcription of the 1591 census of
Tlaxcaltec
> migrants to
Colotlan and the entire 1770 Totatiche census (over
3000
>
names).  So if there are any questions anyone would like to ask,

please
> let me know.
>

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