Dear Dora,

Thank you for sharing your family history. My grandmother was Felipa
Gonzalez, and her parents names were Antonia Friere and Isidro Pedro
Gonzalez. Antonia and Isidro were from Zacatecas but I don't know which
town. Felipa was born there in 1888, and had several brothers and sisters.
They all moved to Durango because there were terrible threats and fights
over land rights in the 1880's-1890's. My grandfather Luis had to leave
when he was a young boy with his family due to the threats since my great
grandfather was labelled a revolutionary. Both Luis and his brother Gen.
Juan Pablo Gonzalez were in the Mexican Revolution and knew Pancho Villa.
My dad tells me that his uncle Juan Pablo was ambushed in the early 1900s
with the governor of Chihuahua, a second cousin named Abraham Gonzalez. I
am trying to verify all of this as it is oral history in my family, given to
me by my dad who recently passed away at age 90. He loved history and knew
of many people and families in Durango and relatives from Zacatecas.
Apparently, his grandfather was Leon Gonzalez who worked on La Hacienda
Trancoso and met my great-grandmother Julia Hernandez there. She was the
daughter of an administrator there, and she and her father had come over
from Spain in the early 1850's. I am researching my great grandparents Leon
and Julia, as I have all their kids names and the data on my father's side
since 1868, however, this is where I'm stuck.

I looked on the map for Zacatecas, and see in panel 6 and 11 a reference to
El Mesquite, and Mesquital. I could not locate them so they must be small.
It seems that people who were born and baptized in the area had their
records sent to Fresnillo de Garcia Echeverria, which have been microfilmed
by the Mormons. Do you have their web site? Que dios de bendiga. Josie

From: dora gomez <golcala01@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Gonsalez, Garcia, Hernandez surnames
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

Dear Josephine,

My family is from Zacatecas and we have Gonzalez on both sides of my
mother's family. My mother's great grandfather was Andres Gonzalez Flores
( Flores being his mother's last name). My mother recently went to
Zacatecas and brought me back some more information about him. She talked
to one of his daughters; she stated that he was originally from El Mezquite
near Fresnillo, Zacatecas. Andres would have been born in the early to mid
1800's. I am still trying to filter through all the information my mother
came back with.

Andres married Estefana Moncivais in El Mezquite and had my
Greatgrandfather, Pablo Gonzalez Moncivais. Estefana passed away when
Pablo was very young and Andres moved to Sain Alto, Zacatecas and remarried
to Paula Silva Alvarado. They started a new family there and some are
still there.

The other side of my mother's Gonzalez family has not been researched very
well. All I know is that my grandfather Martin Gonzalez, b. 1914 lived in
Sain Alto and his father Apolonio Gonzalez passed away when Martin was a
boy.

I hope some of this will help, if not then at least we share a common last
name.

I am still trying to filter through the information and look for El
Mezquital on the map. Good Luck with your search.

Dora Gomez

Josephine Simons <navlady@...> wrote:
Dear Ranchos members,
I am a new, recently added member and if I have taken undue time to
introduce myself, please accept my apologies.  My family surnames are in
this order, Gonsalez, Garcia and great-grandmother's name Hernandez.  We
were from Zacatecas, near Jerez, and from long-standing oral history in my
family, my grandfather lived at La Hacienda de Trancoso, near Fresnillo.  I
have requested the baptismal certificate of my grandfather, Luis Gonsalez,
born in 1868, with record submitted to the catholic parish of La
Purificacion in Fresnillo.  My father told me that his grandmother, Julia
Hernandez was 6 years old and came with her father from Spain to be one of
the hacienda administrators---it looks like they had several administrators
as the hacienda was large and prosperous.  Two of her sisters were born in
Jerez, and they married wealthy men.  The story goes that because she
married a ranchero, she was looked down on by her sisters. My dad told me

his sister went to Zacatecas and found distant relatives in Jerez, but
since

she passed away I cannot verify it with her.  The family name also has the

name Garcia, which were cousins of my grandfather Luis, also from
Zacatecas.

   I am looking for records of Hernandez and those of Leon Gonsalez, my
great grandfather who would have been born sometime between 1830-1850 in
Zacatecas.    This is all I know about him.  My grandmother was from
Zacatecas, born in 1888.  Her last name was also Gonzalez, but my
understanding is that her grandparents were rescued and brought back to the
hacienda and given their family name. Does this make sense?  So, my dad was
Jose Luis Gonsalez Gonzalez, born in Durango in 1914.



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Dear Ranchos members,
I am a new, recently added member and if I have taken undue time to
introduce myself, please accept my apologies.  My family surnames are in
this order, Gonsalez, Garcia and great-grandmother's name Hernandez.  We
were from Zacatecas, near Jerez, and from long-standing oral history in my
family, my grandfather lived at La Hacienda de Trancoso, near Fresnillo.  I
have requested the baptismal certificate of my grandfather, Luis Gonsalez,
born in 1868, with record submitted to the catholic parish of La
Purificacion in Fresnillo.  My father told me that his grandmother, Julia
Hernandez was 6 years old and came with her father from Spain to be one of
the hacienda administrators---it looks like they had several administrators
as the hacienda was large and prosperous.  Two of her sisters were born
in
Jerez, and they married wealthy men.  The story goes that because she
married a ranchero, she was looked down on by her sisters. My dad told me
his sister went to Zacatecas and found distant relatives in Jerez, but since
she passed away I cannot verify it with her.  The family name also has the
name Garcia, which were cousins of my grandfather Luis, also from Zacatecas.
   I am looking for records of Hernandez and those of Leon Gonsalez, my
great grandfather who would have been born sometime between 1830-1850 in
Zacatecas.    This is all I know about him.  My grandmother was from
Zacatecas, born in 1888.  Her last name was also Gonzalez, but my
understanding is that her grandparents were rescued and brought back to the
hacienda and given their family name. Does this make sense?  So, my dad was
Jose Luis Gonsalez Gonzalez, born in Durango in 1914.

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Dear Marge,

The only person I could check with is my mother and uncle. My
great-grandfather was Leon Gonsalez, who married Julia Hernandez at around
that time, but I don't have an archive on this yet. I plan to see my uncle
who lives in Phoenix next month, he's 87 years old and he may know the name
of his great, great grandfather who would have been born sometime around
1835-1850 in or near Jerez. I will get back to you as I get further into
the research. Josie S.

From: "marge vallazza" <TeaCozyGran@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Gonsalez, Garcia, Hernandez surnames
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:49:27 -0500

My great-grandfather was a Zenobio/Cenobio Gonzalez born c. 1844 in Jerez
to Prudencio Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. His first wife, whom he
married in 1862, was Eleuteria Tovar, d/o Mauricio Tobar and Petra
Escobedo-Sandobal. His second wife, whom I descend from, was Ma. Francisca
Saldivar. Severiana Salcedo had a kinsman--I want to say a brother--named
Gregorio Salcedo. Does any of the Gonzalez information sound familiar to
you? Marge V.:)

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Josephine Simons
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:50 PM
  Subject: [ranchos] Gonsalez, Garcia, Hernandez surnames


  Dear Ranchos members,
  I am a new, recently added member and if I have taken undue time to
  introduce myself, please accept my apologies.  My family surnames are in
  this order, Gonsalez, Garcia and great-grandmother's name Hernandez.  We

were from Zacatecas, near Jerez, and from long-standing oral history in
my
family, my grandfather lived at La Hacienda de Trancoso, near Fresnillo.
I
have requested the baptismal certificate of my grandfather, Luis
Gonsalez,

  born in 1868, with record submitted to the catholic parish of La

Purificacion in Fresnillo. My father told me that his grandmother,
Julia
Hernandez was 6 years old and came with her father from Spain to be one
of
the hacienda administrators---it looks like they had several
administrators
as the hacienda was large and prosperous. Two of her sisters were born
in

  Jerez, and they married wealthy men.  The story goes that because she

married a ranchero, she was looked down on by her sisters. My dad told
me
his sister went to Zacatecas and found distant relatives in Jerez, but
since
she passed away I cannot verify it with her. The family name also has
the
name Garcia, which were cousins of my grandfather Luis, also from
Zacatecas.

     I am looking for records of Hernandez and those of Leon Gonsalez, my
  great grandfather who would have been born sometime between 1830-1850 in
  Zacatecas.    This is all I know about him.  My grandmother was from
  Zacatecas, born in 1888.  Her last name was also Gonzalez, but my

understanding is that her grandparents were rescued and brought back to
the
hacienda and given their family name. Does this make sense? So, my dad
was

  Jose Luis Gonsalez Gonzalez, born in Durango in 1914.



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