Emilie, As I remember, Posada created a caricature of the overdressed upper class types in 19th Century Mexico. El Catrin = "dandy" and la Catrina is the feminine form of the word. La Catrina was a person but a generic stereotype. Posada did not intend the caricature to be a complimentary one.The only other people I heard use the word "catrin" were the pachucos in the late 1940's and the early '50's. They used it to describe someone who was dressed up and looked "sharp". I grew up in Southern Cal and saw many pachucos including family members. David in Albany, CA -----Original Message----- From: "Steve G. Apodaca" <sgapodaca@...> Sent: Jul 5, 2005 4:12 PM To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ranchos] La Catrina <html><body> <tt> Here is a link to the picture of La Catrina<BR> <BR> <a href="http://muertos.palomar.edu/posada/skelhat.JPG">http://muertos.palomar.edu/posada/skelhat.JPG</a><BR> <BR> There are several of Posada's drawings in the following page. Just <BR> scroll down to "Calaveras"<BR> <BR> <a href="http://muertos.palomar.edu/posdad.htm">http://muertos.palomar.edu/posdad.htm</a><BR> <BR> Steve.<BR> OC,CA<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <BR> <auntyemfaustus@h...> wrote:<BR> > Ok, now, who is La Catrina? Even my husband, who was more into <BR> the culture until the age of 12 in El Paso, doesn't know either.<BR> > <BR> > Emilie Garcia<BR> > Port Orchard, WA<BR> > <BR> > ----- Original Message -----<BR> > From: Natalie<BR> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:38 AM<BR> > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<BR> > Subject: [ranchos] Dia de los Muertos<BR> > <BR> > I don't remember "celebrating" this holiday as a youngster (in <BR> the <BR> > 40's & 50's), either. And it is only in the last 10-15 yrs that I <BR> > have been exposed to this custom.<BR> > In the past two years the Smithsonian has had public programs for <BR> > DDLM, (one day affairs) with music (strolling mariachi), dance, <BR> > displays, and crafts.<BR> > The Mexican Cultural Institute (Washington, DC), in the building <BR> that <BR> > formerly housed the Embassy of Mexico, have hosted a DDLM exhibit <BR> the <BR> > past 3 yrs - with a magnificent altar in their blue & white tiled <BR> sun <BR> > room, reception, and music. Last year there was even a woman <BR> dressed <BR> > as La Catrina.<BR> > About 6 or 7 yrs ago I began putting up an altar in my yard (then <BR> > moved it to the porch). I would put it up a day or two before <BR> > Halloween - so trick or treaters would get an education when they <BR> > came for their treats. I deviated from the standard of <BR> remembering <BR> > and honor family members by remembering friends and family who <BR> had <BR> > died in the previous 12 months - I would just post a list. I got <BR> a <BR> > lot of ideas online on how to set it up. It has evolved over the <BR> > years. Now my two oldest grand-children (ages 5 & 3) look forward <BR> to <BR> > helping me set up the altar. As they grow older maybe they will <BR> have <BR> > an understanding of honoring the antepasados.<BR> > Thanks to all for sharing the cemetery memories - very informative.<BR> > Happy Fourth! * * * (fireworks!)<BR> > <BR> > Natalie<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS <BR> > <BR> > Visit your group "ranchos" on the web.<BR> > <BR> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR> > ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<BR> > <BR> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <BR> Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : <BR> <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <?---- LSpots keywords ?> <?---- HM ADS ?> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> <div style="text-align:center; color:#909090; width:500px;"> <hr style="border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;"> <tt>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS</tt> </div> <br> <ul> <tt><li type=square> Visit your group "<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos">ranchos</a>" on the web.<br> </tt> <tt><li type=square> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<br> <a href="mailto:ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe">ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com</a><br> </tt> <tt><li type=square> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> </ul> <br> <div style="text-align:center; color:#909090; width:500px;"> <hr style="border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;"> </div> </br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </body></html> David P. Delgado
