Opps... I already took the discussion offline.  Here is a recap:
<START RECAP> HELLO!!! ...... </END RECAP> ;-)

Per the discussion of books, I have the second part of "Historia de 
Totatiche"  I am trying to get my hands on this book, the first 
part.  Here is a little write up on that book - 
http://www.totatichejalisco.com/Historia/HistoriaLibroEsteban.htm

Esteban Valdés Salazar is the Totatiche town historian.  He has also 
written some genealogy books.  Since I am distantly related to him, I 
generaly will purchase his books when I can.  Especially convienent 
to me when he writes on the ancestors we share.  His sister, 
Inocencia Valdés Salazar, is the town historin for Momax.  I have one 
of her books too.  Especially convienent to me that Momax and 
Totatiche are my target areas of research. ;-)

If you go to this library website - http://melvyl.cdlib.org/

Do a search by author last name of "Valdés Salazar".  And both his 
and her books will be shown.

Good Luck,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> Donde va hacer la fiesta?. . .piñata, tamales, mariachis, tragitos 
y 
> bailando.
> 
> what a happy day it is! For more than a 100 years or maybe more 
than 200 
> years your families lost each other. People that loved and cared 
for 
> each other but through circumstances got lost and forgotten. Now 
they 
> are united and hopefully will never lose track of each other again.
> 
> arturoramos2 wrote:
> 
> >Angie:
> >
> >We are most definitely related.  Joseph Cayetano Grano's daughter 
> >Rita Margarita married Pedro Gonzalez.  I am their eighth 
generation 
> >descendant via my father's paternal line.  I will definitely take 
a 
> >look at your file.  I have Covarrubias and Jara interwoven 
throughout 
> >my genealogy so I am sure there is a connection there as well.
> >
> >Do you know how I would go about getting copies of the books you 
> >mention?  We can continue this discussion outside the group if you 
> >like... arturo.ramos2@v...
> >
> I wouldn't hear of it. . .maybe give us just a message or two 
more. . 
> .let us celebrate and wish you our happiness too. You all can take 
it 
> private after we have had our fill of your happiness as well.
> 
> congratulations on this great find. . .its time for much rejoicing!
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: no one ever accused me of  not being a sentimentalist.
> 
> pps: This is not the book Angie referred to but was given 
fyi. . .note 
> the library of congress owning a copy of the first:
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> Publication: 	Guadalajara, Jalisco : Secretaría de Cultura,
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> Responsibility: 	Esteban Valdés Salazar.
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> Publication: 	Mexico : Casa Editora Nogales,
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> Note(s): 	"Agosto de 1998"--T.p. verso.
> Class Descriptors: 	LC: F1296 
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> Other Titles: 	Totatiche, Jalisco
> Responsibility: 	Jesús Sepúlveda.
> Document Type: 	Book
> Entry: 	20000505
> Update: 	20050115
> Accession No: 	OCLC: 43989727
> Database: 	WorldCat