Alberto;
What an interesting memory! My Grandparents, (Feliciano and Rosa
Macias) donated the land to the church on which St. Xavier Catholic church
was built. Most of my aunts and uncles were married there. I was looking for
a relative and found the name in the records of marriage there. My Aunt
Aurora told me that it was not surprising and that I would find her and her
sisters there also. That was news to me.
My grandparents lived and died there in El Paso. My Macias line starts
there for me and it was nice to see your entry about that area. My dad,
Felix Macias, met and married my mom here in Los Angeles. I have never been
to El Paso, though most all of my branch of the Macias line still lives
there. I don't know where my El Paso relatives live there and know no one
there that could tell me where to look. I have a brick wall where it comes
to my great grand father -Francisco Macias because he is from somewhere in
Zacatecas. He had a ranch/farm there and that is all my aunt Aurora could
remember from her childhood.
Anyway, I liked reading your recollections and hope you will respond to
my posting. I do extraction of records for our church and have little time
lately to trace my family. As soon as I finish the 4,000 + names to be
extracted, I will start again. I am thinking that if I pay $500 to the
company called Legacy in Utah that I may get some good help and direction.
Have you heard of them ? If so, what did you hear ?
For now, good hunting and I wish you happiness. Jose Luis Macias
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [ranchos] Pinole
We lived in a one room apartment near Washington Park, across the street from St. Xavier Catholic church. The apartment was a dump (dirt floors) with the bathroom aside shared with other tenants. We were a very poor family, there were six of us counting my grandmother. El Paso at that time offered zero opportunities for Mexican-Americans, so my dad moved all of us the Los Angeles. There were many families from El Paso that moved to Los Angeles back in the early '40s, including one by the name of Antony Quinn who later won a couple of Oscars-you see, we can make it if only given the opportunity. Alberto. --- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:Where did you live in El Paso at that time? I lived across from Sacred Heart Church and School for the first 8 years of my life. As a kid, I hated going across the border because it was so unfamiliar to be and because of all the noise, the exotic odors, the beggars, and the language. I was always afraid, although no one would have harmed me but that's how I was then. Now, I can appreciate everything about it, including the interesting architecture. Marge:) On Jun 27, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote: > Good and sad times: > We also went to the Marcado in Juarez back in the > early '50s. My mom would buy dry goods which were > really expensive for us to buy in the United States > (Los Angeles). Would you believe that we also > purchased young parrots and smuggled them across to El > Paso! Later on this turned out to be a sad > remembrance for me, when I found out that thousands, > maybe millions, of the these beautiful birds were > wiped out of the rain forests in Mexico, just because > of greed and ignorance. > > Alberto. > > --- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote: > > > When I was a kid, we would cross the border into > > Juarez with my aunts > > and mother to go shopping at the Mercado, and one of > > the merchants had > > a display of pinole. It was sold in paper > > cones--sometimes piÃf±ata-type > > paper and sometimes newspaper. I liked it...didn't > > get it too often, > > though. Marge:) > > On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Irma GomezLucero > > wrote: > > > > > Ã, Pinole is great with a little milk--sort of a > > mush.Ã, Love it for > > > breakfast.Ã, Has anyone heard the following > > expression: > > > > > > Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, El que tiene mas saliva, come mas > > pinole. > > > > > > Sorry didn't use accents even after the flood of > > emails on the > > > subject.Ã, My > > > engineer and architect cousins from Mexico D.F. > > don't either in their > > > letters to me. When asked about this, they > > responded that they knew > > > how to > > > pronounce the words without the accents, etc., > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lrapido [mailto:1gnzlz@...] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:35 PM > > > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [ranchos] Pinole > > > > > > Talking about food... > > > I wonder how many of our members have heard of > > "Pinole" ? Pinole is a > > > high > > > energy food made from dry roasted corn ground-up > > and mixed with brown > > > sugar > > > (Piloncillo, o panocha) and cinnamon and > > sometimes either lemon or > > > orange > > > peel for flavoring. The Tarahumara indians of > > Chihuahua use it as a > > > staple > > > food. Tarahumaras are basically vegetarians, with > > meat accounting for > > > about > > > less than 10% of their diet. They eat Pinole it > > or drink it ( can be > > > mixed > > > with water or ? ) before they run the ultra > > marathons.Ã, Pinole is a > > > very > > > convinient high energy food because in its powder > > form can keep for > > > months. > > > It is carried in a pouch during long trips and is > > used to sometimes > > > replace > > > whole meals. The Tarahumaras are universally > > known as runners. > > > Tarahumaras > > > have run the 100 mile marathon from Nevada to > > California.Ã, They think > > > nothing of running 50 miles or more to go visit > > friends or relatives > > > in a > > > distant village.Ã, When was the last time you did > > that! > > > They hunt by running animals until the animal > > gets tired and gives > > > up. That > > > includes deer, rabbits and whatever animal they > > choose to chase. > > > Pinole is very sweet and very tasty. Try it, next > > time you go to > > > Mexico, or > > > better yet, make your own! In Mexico it is sold > > at just about any > > > grocery > > > store, kids love it, just make sure you plan a > > high energy activity > > > for > > > them. If you are runner or into high energy > > sports, you should give > > > it a > > > try. > > > > > > John Gonzalez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > >      ââ?"ª      Ã, Visit your group "ranchos" on the web. > > > Ã, > > >      ââ?"ª      Ã, To unsubscribe from this group, send an > > email to: > > > Ã, ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Ã, > > >      ââ?"ª      Ã, Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > YAHOO! 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