Irma,well said. Next time you talk to your spanish friends, ask them to send back all the gold they stole from Mexico (just kidding). Alberto. --- Irma GomezLucero <igomezlucero@...> wrote: > Hi Emilie, > I have been enjoying alll of the recent postings > on racial > classification. Excuse me for now jumping onto the > soapbox. :) I hope > that I don't offend anyone from what I am about to > say. I just don't like > hearing ignorant racist remarks about Indians, > Mexicans, etc., and people > who feel superior to other ethnic groups. Your > Spanish friend sounds like > someone with low self-esteem, (as well as possibly > uneducated) and in that > she feels that she should distance herself from > those that she perceives as > inferior to herself. Heaven help her poor Mexican > American husband that has > to hear such racist comments. > The Spanish I met in Spain when I travelled > there are nothing like those > immigrants from Spain or South America that I have > sometimes encountered > here in the USA. They do not view people from > Mexico like a bunch of > Indians. In fact, they often remarked about > Mexico's riches both in the > Indian Civilizations as well as the gold that their > churches are filled > with. They were very warm people who would comment > on how handsome Pedro > Infante was when they saw him in concert in their > youth. Also how the > foolish Spanish king really screwed up when he > underestimated the strength > in the Mexican people during Mexico's independance. > > Remember to stand tall. Just a side note to > your Spanish friend. > Garbanzos which are a staple for humans in Spain > (they are often served in > Basque dishes) are often fed to livestock in Mexico. > Please educate your > South American friend too by informing her that Taco > Bell is not authentic > Mexican food. I am extremely proud of all my > bloodlines whether it be > India, mestizo, mulata, espanola, etc., > Okay I'll step down now. Thanks for allowing > me to get this off my > chest. > Irma who hails from Northern California > > _____ > > From: Emilie Garcia > [mailto:auntyemfaustus@...] > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:41 AM > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Racial Classifications was > Moorish or Slave > > > Wow, those charts and photos are mind-boggling. I > am really getting an > education. > > The mixing of the races in Mexico has led to a > particular typically Mexican > look, I think. My husband, who looks white (I call > him viejo Gachupin pelon > sordo) calls the typical Mexican the result of the > Mestizaje. Yet no two > Mexicans could look more different than he and I, he > 6 ft, me 5 ft; we could > have been the Espanol and the Indian pictured in the > photos. Yet I can trace > both of our lineages back to the early 1700's in > Mexico. > > My Spanish-Basque friend said that when she met her > Mexican-American > serviceman husband in Pamplona (he looks like me) > she was fascinated by his > appearance. She said she had never seen anyone with > the planes of the face > like mine and his. In profile we have small noses > in line with the chin and > forehead, whereas she and my husband have ! the look > of Europeans, yet > different. He has a large Roman nose with receded > chin and forehead in > profile and he is bald on top yet very hairy arms > and legs. She looks > German. Up here in Washington State in an area > where there are few > Mexicans, I am at times mistaken for Asian or > Filipina. I have a hard time > convincing the Filipinos around here I am not a > Filipina. One man even > asked me why I did not want to admit to being > Filipina! > > An interesting thing too about food preferences > among us: My Spanish-Basque > friend does not like corn tortillas or Mexican food. > She prefers bread and > fish or chicken. She says that corn is only fed to > animals where she comes > from. I heard that also from a lady I knew from > South America. She was > dismayed that her sons were learning to eat "como > Indios" since they liked > Taco Bell tacos and asked her to make some like > their Mexican friends' moms > made! . > > Also, lately, I feel that it is this typical Mexican > look, an Indian > appearance, that makes many Anglo-Americans so > prejudiced against the aliens > coming across from south of the border. They are > being so mean to those > poor people. American employers continue to depend > on alien labor for the > work that many Americans won't stoop to do, and that > is where the problem > lies, not with the poor people looking to improve > their lives. > > I am off my soapbox now, > > Emilie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lareina2@... > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:58 PM > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > ! > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Racial Classifications was > Moorish or Slave > > There's a folder for it in Ranchos 2. I found a > book that gave a little > background and some pictures. Here's the link, and > definitely blow up the > link of the page of classifications so it's > readable: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/files/Racial%20Classification/ > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/files/Racial%20Classification/> > > > Rosalinda > > > -----Original Message----- > From: latina1955@... > Sent: Jun 23, 2005 1:32 AM > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Moorish or Slave > > > > I could be wrong (my memory comes and goes with this > stuff called menopause > - should be called memorypause), but I think coyote > was a term used to > describe the mixed blood of Indians and African. > > There was a chart (perhaps someone can recall it > here?) that described the > various labels placed on the mixture of "races" > during the early part of the > conquest, when race delineation was seen as > important by the Spanish. I'll > keep looking for this chart, but in the meantime, > perhaps someone else on > the board has easy access to it for reference? > > Esperanza > > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http:! <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/> > //groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/ > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
