TEST SITE - DO NOT USE - Development only

thank you Armando, my DNA results are based on my mother sister DNA test, myself and my youngest sister. we all seem to reflect the basic findings I talked above. As to your question, whether I want to share my DNA, the answer is yes provided I am assured that by sharing you mean amongst other members who have had their DNA tested.

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Es un  honor  que haya  tomado en  cuenta mi humilde comentario.  as? pues con referente al  mensaje anterior    ,las  personas en muchas  ocasiones  confundimos  el  mito de la realidad , pero  gracias  a  estudiosos  como usted  y  varios  compa?eros muy bien documentados  nos despejan  de  tales dudas  y  eso  de que  los  Gomez  somos todos  de  la  misma  rama  es  muy  ingenuo cualquiera  en  su  sano  juicio lo  descarta ning?n Apellido hace Jud?o  a  nadie es  parte  de las muchas pruebas que  se requieren para  ser  certificado gracias  nuevamente por su gran aportaci?n. Atte Ignacio Anaya  Gomez. 

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we all seem to assume that we are descendant of Spain, but just like my DNA, it reveal that my blood line has a minor percentage of an Iberian marker and more with northern and eastern?Europe and Eastern European Jewish, along with my native American marker. A number of my antepasados are listed as espa?oles or espa?ol natural, I wonder who amongst them was of jewish descent. 

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No se cuantos de ustedes ya hayan leido este informe pero se me hizo muy interesante para todos los del grupo de Nuestros Ranchos especdialmete porque la mayoria descendemos de estos sefardies. La Lista de Apellidos Sefardies en las americas incluye; Ruiz de Esparza, Macias, Hurtado, Mendoza, Avila, Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Barba, Rodriguez para mencionar solo unos cuantos de ellos. En la internet esta una lista completa de todos los apellidos.

España ofrecerá nacionalidad a judíos sefardíes

Descendientes de judíos expulsados por los Reyes Católicos en 1492 podrán beneficiarse de esta iniciativa, que ya ha provocado avalancha de solicitudes en Israel.

11febrero
2014

El Gobierno español está a punto de aprobar un anteproyecto de ley para conceder la nacionalidad española a los judíos sefardíes que justifiquen tal condición.

Esta modificación de la ley permitirá la doble nacionalidad tras acreditar su origen a través de certificado de la Federación de Comunidades Judías de España (FCJE), de consulados con certificado de la autoridad rabínica competente reconocida en su país o como consecuencia de un expediente personal, donde los propios apellidos, el idioma familiar o cualquier otro indicio probatorio así lo acredite.

La decisión ha despertado un desmesurado interés en los ciudadanos israelíes, que han desbordado con sus consultas los consulados españoles en Tel Aviv y Jerusalén. Según calculan las organizaciones sefardíes, unos 3,5 millones de personas podrían beneficiarse de esta medida.

Hasta ahora sólo podían solicitar la nacionalidad española con procedimientos lentos y farragosos, y renunciando a sus otros pasaportes. Con la aprobación de esta nueva iniciativa, que aún debe votarse en el parlamento, podrán conservar más nacionalidades aparte de la española, además de ampliar las posibilidades de certificación de las raíces sefardíes.

Muchos judíos sefardíes de Israel han comenzado a tramitar traducciones de documentos antiguos para demostrar su pasado español. Los medios israelitas han celebrado estos días esta iniciativa del Gobierno español, que en su opinión "repara un error histórico" cometido contra los judíos. Aunque el gobierno de Israel todavía no se ha pronunciado al respecto, se ve como un acto de buena fe del ejecutivo de Mariano Rajoy.

Ilustración publicada por el diario israelí Haaretz

SEFARDÍES EN AMÉRICA

América Latina podría ser una de las regiones más beneficiadas con la aprobación de este anteproyecto de ley, que permitiría la aceleración del proceso de concesión de la nacionalidad española a los descendientes de los judíos expulsados. Se calcula que en el continente existen en torno a un millón de judíos sefardíes.

¿QUÉ SON LOS JUDÍOS SEFARDÍES?

Los sefardíes son los descendientes de los judíos expulsados de España en 1492, que ordenaron los Reyes Católicos mediante el "Edicto de Granada"”. Una expulsión que puso fin a años de presencia judía en la península ibérica, que algunos historiadores datan desde el siglo II antes de Cristo. Todos los judíos fueron obligados a convertirse al catolicismo, o abandonar el reino.

Su expulsión fue consecuencia del proceso de unificación religiosa que llegó tras la unión de los reinos, con el matrimonio de Fernando II de Aragón e Isabel I de Castilla. Entonces se estableció en España el Tribunal del Santo Oficio, más conocido como la Inquisición, de la mano del dominico Tomás de Torquemada, que comenzó la persecución contra los llamados "infieles".

La mayoría de los judíos expulsados se instalaron en el norte de África, o en los estados cercanos, como el reino de Portugal, el reino de Navarra o en los estados italianos, para extenderse por toda Europa. Además de su religión, al no aceptar la conversión al catolicismo, los sefardíes guardaron muchas costumbres ancestrales y particularmente conservaron hasta nuestros días el uso de la lengua española medieval, el llamado "ladino".

Su secular convencimiento de que algún día podrían regresar a Sefarad (nombre con el que conocen a España) les ha llevado, incluso, a guardar las llaves de las casas que fueron expulsados hace más de 500 años.

Algunos historiadores aseguran que unos 200.000 judíos fueron expulsados de la península. Los que se quedaron y se convirtieron al catolicismo fueron perseguidos y juzgados por tribunales de la Inquisición para comprobar su fe.

Busco ancetros originarios de LOS CERRITOS ATOLINGA ZACATECAS. DE apehidos Arteaga, Perez, Castaneda, Saldana.

buenos dias

alguien sabe quienes don los padres de juana saldaña esposa de juan macias valades perez?

juan macias valadez perez fallecio en 1681 en aguascalientes

no tengo informacion de este linaje en ambos

saludos a todos

Juana Dominguez (Married to Juan Macias Valadez, 12 Jun 1683 in
Aguascalientes) was daughter of Juan Hernandez and Ana Dominguez. Juana had at least 6 siblings. In the baptismal records of one of these, Ana is listed as Ana Domingues de los Inojos (Hinojos). I've not been able to locate Juan & Ana's marriage record, to find the names of the Juana's grandparents, so I've hit a road block. However, I found a potential couple: Pedro Alonso de los Inojos and Ana Domingues (died 14 August 1675). Could these be Ana's parents and thus Juana's grandparents? Any help will be appreciated.

Jaime

Hello Everyone!

I have encountered a brick wall once again regarding my 8th-great-grandparents Bernabe Gonzalez and Salvadora Duran, but as I have gone more in depth in my research I have found many clues that have helped me get around it. I hope you guys can help me put the clues together and help break the brick wall.

Bernabe Gonzalez married Salvadora Duran on Jan 20, 1692 in Nochistlan,Zac,Mex.
I have found five children:

-Maria Gonzalez Christening Date: 08 Jan 1695 Nochisltan,Zac
-Juana Gonzalez Christening Date: 16 May 1698 Nochistlan,Zac
-Andres Gonzalez Christening Date: 23 Jan 1702 Nochistlan,Zac
-Ju. Anselmo Gonsales Christening Date: 19 Apr 1711 Nochistlan,Zac
-Phelipa De Santiago Gonsales Christening Date: 11 May 1713 Nochistlan,Zac (My 7th-great-grandmother) married Jose Antonio Ruiz Cortez from Valladolid (Morelia, Michoacan)on 09 Oct 1731 in Nochistlan,Zac.

I looked over all the baptism documents of their children hoping to find clues, which I think I succeeded. On Maria Gonzalez' babtism, her padrinos are Jacinto Ramírez de Rosales and Margarita Gonzalez. Then, on Ju. Anselmo Gonzalez' baptism, her padrinos are Cristobal Gonzalez and Josepha de Venavides. It seems to me that Bernabe Gonzalez is from the "de la Cruz Bermejo" family since Margarita Gonzalez and possibly Cristobal Gonzalez are Tomas Cruz and Catharina de Sandoval's children. I am only doubting Cristobal Gonzalez since the son of Tomas Cruz, Cristobal Cruz (Gonzalez) married Maria De La Rosa Duran, unless Josepha de Venavides was his first or second wife.

Anselmo's Baptism:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15280-5387-9?cc=1804458&wc=M…

Maria's Baptism:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15280-6066-29?cc=1804458&wc=…

Bernabe Gonzalez and Salvadora Duran's marriage godparents are listed as Gregorio Ramirez de Rosales and Antonia de la Cruz, who is also daughter of Tomas Cruz and Catharina de Sandoval.

Bernabe and Salvadora's Marriage:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-52620-25?cc=1804458&wc…

Now my question is whether Bernabe Gonzalez is also a son of Tomas Cruz, or nephew, since the padrinos of his children and his own marriage seem to be Tomas' children and therefore from the "de la Cruz Bermejo" family. Tomas Cruz' children are Juan Cruz,Margarita De La Cruz Gonzalez Bermejo,Visente Cruz and Antonia De La Cruz, but I did not find any Bernabe, unless he is their cousin. I am also wondering who Salvadora Duran's parents are. I already tried looking for their marriage in Informacion matrimonial but the year range is missing.

I would greatly appreciate your help!!

Thank you!

Roberto Rosales Villalpando
Riverside,CA

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Hello everybody,

Our next meeting is scheduled on Saturday, July 12 at 11:30 am at Casa Flores Restaurant in Stockton. If you have a laptop, please bring it. We will need it to do research in small groups.

We have a new website: www.nuevagalicia.org. Take a moment to look around and review our Bylaws,

If you would like to be removed from this distribution list, please reply back and let me know.

I apologize to those of you who wanted to join our last meeting via Hangouts. Casa Flores did not have the right type of connection for my I-Pad and I was unable to get that set up. I will attempt it at this next meeting with one of the laptops. Wish me luck!

I hope to see most of you at this next meeting.

Maria Cortez

Would someone be able to translate a marriage record for me? I can pick out pieces of it, but don't know enough Spanish to translate the entire thing. I could not download it as it says that it is too big in size. It is on the familysearch.org website. In the browse records section for Senor San Jose, Calvillo, Aguascalientes. Matrimonios 1772-1813. page 126. The right top page for the marriage of Ygnacio Rodriguez and Maria Orencia Briceno.
Thank You!
Jessica

Edgar
Segun la tradicion de mi familia somos descendientes de Judios de la parte de mis antepasados Ledezma

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:15 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos July 2014

http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2014/spjul14/spjul14.htm

Dear Primos and Friends:

Hope you all enjoy a wonderful July 4th celebration. In keeping with the American Revolution, you will find a few articles on the importance of the Spanish horses on the history and development of the United States.

Yesterday, I had a telephone conversation with my Aunt Alicia. She lives in Stockton. I told her about an incident that occurred during a stay with my Tia Elia in Stockton. I was in 5th grade and cousin Albita in the 3rd grade. Every now and then, Abuelito would give us 5 cents for an after school treat. One Monday he gave each of us 25 cents. We were in heaven. We each decided to get a huge 5 scoop cone with our 25 cent.
Of course by the time we got home, the ice cream was running down our arms, clothes, and shoes, and most was lost on the sidewalk.

My Aunt Alicia asked if I learned anything and how long it took for me to get the message of the experience. I said, by the next day because Every day we walked past the same ice cream store, was a reminder. We were also back to an occasional 5 cents from Abuelito.

Abuelito was an educator in Mexico, a good teacher. He taught me to to plan ahead. The comments and personal observations found in histories of ancestors, current newspaper and magazine articles, can reveal character and teach principles.

You will read of numerous projects underway to record the Latino historic presence from a personal perspective. They are entitled:
Portraiture Now, The Media and Idea Lab, American and Latino Fund, the Latino Americans' Mi Historia project, and Smithsonian Journey Stories.

If we want our story told correctly, we need to tell them ourselves.
Write, record, or videotape,one story at a time, just start.

God bless America . . and our place in it.
Mimi

UNITED STATES
Cuento: How The Alamo Helped Win The American Revolution By Robert H.
Thonhoff
Cuento: Heritage Discovery Museum by Robin Collins The Associated Press, 6/29: "Wild horse is on the Verge of going extinct in North America."
Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, July 4th Celebration The History of the Official Versions of Change of the American Flag
Cuento: I say Hispanic. You say Latino. How did the whole thing start?
by Yasmin Anwa
Cuento: Y a mi, qué? Who Does the Civil Rights Movement Belong To? by Eduardo Diaz Projects at the Smithsonian Latino Center Newsletter Columbia Study Finds Marginal Latino Presence Across U.S. Mainstream Media,
Despite Growing Population, Posted by Vanessa Gonzalez Latinopia and “Political Salsa y Más” blog American Latino Heritage Fund
Cuento: Change!!! by Daisy Wanda Garcia
Cuento: If you are doing a good work, expect opposition by Mimi Lozano Cenotaph will be erected at the Texas State Cemetery to honor José Antonio Navarro, Texas patriot
Cuento: Casa Navarro Essay Contest
Cuento: Career Volunteer Honored by County by Vanessa Finney
Cuento: The Sole of an Artist by Lisa Liddane Latino Americans' Mi Historia
Cuento: ''Cesar Chavez,'' Conditions in the Fields and the Struggle over Memory
Cuento: Terms of Identity: What’s in a Name? By Felipe de Ortego y Gasca NCLR Annual National Conference and National Latino Family Expo, July
19-22

HISTORIC TIDBITS
Cuento: Preserving Tejano Texas is not an option; it’s a must! by José Antonio López
A Tale of Two Californias by Galal Kernahan, Part 1 Texas State Historical Association, Texas Day by Day

HISPANIC LEADERS
Raul Mena Lopez, Neuropathologist

LATINO PATRIOTS
Youtube: The Morena Group, Inc. by Victor Mancilla
Cuento: Long Battle to win recognition for the Borinqueneers reached far beyond DC Borinqueneers Congressional Gold Medal Alliance by Frank Medina Information on the Book: The Men of Company E by Alfredo Lugo
Cuento: Reminiscences of a Naval Aviator, Figure Eights by Daniel L.
Polino
Cuento: Poems about People and History by Raul Garza

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Texas Connection to the American Revolution, recognized by Sons of the American Revolution July 23, TCARA Celebrates 10th Year of Founding “Yo Solo” By José Antonio López
Cuento: My Days as a Colonist / Soldier with Don Juan de Onate – Part 6 By Louis F. Serna

SURNAMES: LOZANO by John P. SchmalDNA
Map of DNA in Mexico
Mexican genetics study reveals huge variation in ancestry

hola

buen dia a todos los miembros de este foro

alguien tiene informacion del linaje de esta pareja Luis de Alvarado and Beatriz Lopez de Elizalde?

algun dote matrimonial o dispensa ?

algun testamento?

no tengo ninguna informacion de esta pareja

se los agradezaco mucho por la atencion prestada

excelente dia a todos

BUENOS DIAS A TODOS

ALGUIEN TIENE EL ARCHIVO DEL TESTAMENTO DE BERNARDO RUIZ DE ESPARZA ESPOSO DE CATALINA LOSANO?

ALGUIEN ME LO PODRIA PASAR O DECIR COMO BUSCARLO?

SE LOS AGRADECERIA MUCHO

EXCELENTE DIA

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:26 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Hisatsinom (Anasazi) Connection to New Mexican Families (Mt-DNA Haplogroup B)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on The Hisatsinom (Anasazi) Connection to New Mexican Families (Mt-DNA Haplogroup B). If you would like to learn more about the mark this ancient civilization made on the American Southwest then this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject on July 18 at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.

Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:

http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati… &int_class_id=63206

Best Regards,

Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

P.S. For more information contact Angel

IN DOING RESEARCH IN THE JALISCO CHURCH RECORDS I FOUND A GREAT AUNT PETRA TORRES THAT MARRIED VALERIO MACIAS ON 2 JULY 1814 AND IT LIST BOTH AS BEING INDIOS. BUT HOW CAN I FIND THE TYPE OF INDIOS THEY WERE. I FOUND THIS IN THE JALISCO CATHOLIC CHURCH RECORDS FROM ENCARNACION DE DIAZ MATRIMONIOS 1778 - 1830 FILM PAGE WAS 503.I HAD HEARD THAT MY RELATIVES WERE AZTEC BUT I HAVE NOT VERIFIED THIS YET.. THIS MY FIRST TIME POSTING ANYTHING SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PROPER FORMAT, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. MY ID IS HERJOE59

Thanks Linda Castañon -Long if you like to share with me you info maybe I
can dig something out and help you in the process because this way I have
got other info also I found online some stories of valparaiso its called
Valparaiso de.mis recuerdos and colotlan en llamas blog reading this may
give you hints of where to look there I saw sone Castañon mentioned. You
can google the names I told you to read the stories!!
El jul 1, 2014 5:11 PM,
escribió:

Hello!! I see some Castañon ancestors in this mail can someone tell me.if
they have info about a Gertrudis Castañon I think she.was from Jalisco and
moved to Valparaiso Zacatecas there married Crisanto Guizar (Huizar) around
the 1800 to 1850 or so, I have a branch of my family undefinied there.
Please help!!!
El jun 29, 2014 5:08 PM,
escribió:

CRISTOBAL RUIZ DE ESPARZA HIJO DE BERNARDO RUIZ DE ESPARZA Y CATALINA LOSANO

CRISTOBAL RUIZ ESPOSO DE ANTONIA DE ALVARADO

LA PREGUNTA ALGUIEN TIENE INFORMACION DEL LINAJE DE ANTONIA DE ALVARADO?

SE LOS AGRADEZCO MUCHO

EXCELENTE DIA A TODO

GRACIAS POR LA ATENCION PRESTADA

Quisera dar gracias a mi Primo Juan Sanchez por sus investigaciones de
nuestra Familia de Sanchez. Por mucho tiempo he pensado que mi Estefana
Sanchez (marida de Matias Banuelos) fue hermana de Antonia Sanchez (marida
de Antonio Banuelos). Pense que dos hermanos se casaron con dos hermanas.
Pero quien es Marizal Banuelos y quien es Rosalia Sanchez:

Tres hermanos Matias, Antonio y Marizal Banuelos casaron tres hermanas
Estefana, Antonia, y Rosalia Sanchez en Monte Escobedo – mire los
Información matrimonial de Monte Escobedo:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-15559-51?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-16029-34?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-15514-26?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

Los Banuelos hijos de Xacinto Banuelos y Bartola de la Torre

Los Sanchez hijas de Trinidad Sanchez-Castellanos y Gertrudis Jaimes

Gracias Primo,

Joseph

Pd: Juan Sanchez me contacto por que mi nombre era una conexión de
FamilyTreeDNA family finder.

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

I saw a general article on the diversity of genetics in Mexico, along with the science article it's based upon. They're interesting reading!

General article:

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/vast-diversity-found-gene…

The actual study located in Science magazine (there is a free registration required in order to read the article):

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/344/6189/1280

Rosalinda

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>
>
Hello members,

I saw in the older posts on Nuestros Ranchos a few posts about the Garcia
de Leon family from Celaya Guanajuato and wanted to ask a question. One of
my direct ancestors has parents named Toribio Garcia and Juana Hernandes
but my ancestor is sometime listed as mulato and sometime Indian and I saw
that the Garcia de Leon family are Spanish. Is it possible that my ancestor
is mulato or Indian with a Spanish father?

Mia

i was getting ready to index the guadalajara marriage dipsensations for the last part of the 1855 and the link no longer worked.

i looked here https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list?page=1&region=MEXICO
and couldn't find the jalisco church records under there

Queridos compañeros:
Una línea que no he podido desarollar son mis octavo bisabuelos, el Lic. Nicolás Tadeo Gómez de Aguilar, Abogado de la Real Audencia de Guadalajara y su mujer Estefana Fernández de Monroy. La novios casaron el 21 de agosto de 1757 en el Sagrario Metropoilitano de Guadalajara. El documento menciona ellos como "hijo lexítimo de D. Roque Gómez de Aguilar y Da. Tomasa Ramírez de Prado" (cuya familia ya se ha mencionado inumerables veces aquí en el foro y evito hablar sobre ellos) e "hija lexítima de D. Antonio Fernández de Monroy y Da. Juana Gómez García." El Lic. era originario de Guadalajara y la novia "originaria del pueblo de Tequila." Ahora la pregunta. Los quienes han estudiado a fondo los Gómez de Aguilar sabrá que Gómez de Aguilar y Gómez García provienen del mismo tronco. Ya que Estefana es Gómez-García por el lado materno, que será el vínculo de consanguinidad? Algún investigador ha encontrado la dispensa de esta pareja? No he logrado continuar la línea Fernández de Monroy, descendientes de la casa de Monroy, parientes del Marqués del Valle de Oaxaca.

Un fuerte abrazo,
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

I was browsing defunto records of 1720's in Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico and came across a number of people, pages where they all passed away at the same time by a "Peste" Plague in 1738:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-80882-40?cc=1874591&wc…

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2uge7g8.jpg
http://oi61.tinypic.com/2wg5en6.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/15gqpue.jpg

If anyone in the group would like to work on this project it would be great
if you would bring some attention to the http://nuestrosranchos.org group if
the findings get presented on PBS.

Here is some information I received directly from Aaron with some info
posted on the Zacatecas rootsweb group included at the bottom:

As stated before, I am a researcher for a PBS show called Finding Your
Roots, that explores race, culture, and identity through the genealogies and
family histories of notable celebrities.
I am trying to trace the line of Jose de La Lus Ramirez, born March 1781 in
Jerez, Zacatecas, and the line of Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera, born
December 14, 1755 in El Durazno, Zacatecas, and died Jun 19, 1799 in El
Durazno, Zacatecas.
We're trying to see if we can take these two people's families back to
Spain, which would probably be about two or three generations. We've already
checked the obvious places for records but have turned nothing up, so if
there is anyone with any leads or who would be interested in helping out, we
would be enormously appreciative.
I did some searching on your site and found Miguel Caldera, who has obvious
ties to Spain (through his father) and while it is entirely unknown whether
Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera is related to him, it could be a lead?

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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1. PBS Researcher looking for Zacatecas Genealogist
(gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:40:22 -0000
From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com"
Subject: [MEX-ZACATECAS] PBS Researcher looking for Zacatecas
Genealogist
To:

Author: akalischerco
Surnames: de la Lus Ramirez, Caldera
Classification: lookup

Message Board URL:

http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.mexico.zacatecas/2051/mb…

Message Board Post:

I'm working on a PBS show and am trying to take the lines of Jose de La Lus
Ramirez of Jerez, Zacatecas, and Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera of El
Durazno, Zacatecas, back to Spain (probably about two generations). Is there
anyone who could attempt to do this? The answer may lie in civil or church
records, but I have been unable to find any that help.
Aaron

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