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Este proyecto (Censo de 1930) solo esta terminado al 46% faltamos muchos.. Pero lastima que no hay suficiente hispanoblantes
en el proyecto para ir progesando rapidamente.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Esperanza, I saw this spelling used in some Jerez Zacatecas records but the
family records show Si.. Sid and finally Cid..
Linda in Nv.

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From: "Latina1955@aol.com"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 1:12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Trejo line

I think I have found the surname "Si" associated with the my Trejo line - 
does anyone know if there was a Chinese influence in Tlaltenango area? 
This surname is of Chinese orientation.

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Daniel,
Have you considered the possibility that the Tomas Macias Valadez you are looking for is son of Thomas MV and Maria Lopez de Lizaldi m. 13 sept 1659? The timeline fits. The only child that I got for this couple is Pedro MV who married Juana Ruiz de Esparza and had a child also called Thomas MV b.5 june 1681, who can't be the Tomas you are looking for. However, among Paco Romo's testament list, there are two testaments for Maria Lopez de Lizalde: #79 dated 25.08.1720 and #705 dated 29.04.1710. She must list her children in there.
Just an idea.

Jaime Alvarado

Salvador,

I was in Nochistlan a few years ago when I walked into a book store and I was
able to find they had several copies of one of her books on Nochistlan.

I have one of those books but I believe it might be possible to find a copy for
you in Nochistlan. If you want, I can inquire with one of my cousins who still
lives there to see if he can find you a copy. You can contact me off-line about
this at, alliecar@pacbell.net

Your Ancestress was and is very famous in Mexico for the same reasons you just
mentioned, she had many academic accomplishments for a woman of her times. She
was also a champion of the rights of the indigenous people of Mexico and she
wrote extensively about their language and their traditions.

Because my family is from Nochistlan and because one of my surnames is Ruiz,
I've done a bit of research on Evelia Clotilde Quirarte.

Saludos,
Alicia de San Jose, Ca.

________________________________
From: Salvador Quirarte
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos

I posted a picture of my grandparents who also emigrated in 1918 --- in
fact this was their passport picture. Their names were Manuel Luna and
Norberta Herrera - both from the Tlaltenango area.

I'm on page 221, informacion matrimonial 1850-1853 -- still have not come
across their marriage documentation in the family search documentation.

Is this where you got the information?

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Arturo

Thank you for finding this!

With the information you provided, I looked for the image on PARES, and was able to find it.

The colors of the PARES image are not as nice as those in the book you located, but the scan provides more detail. Also, the file is not real large (only about 800 Kb). You can enlarge it significantly without much loss of detail.

To get the image from PARES go to http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=100

In the box at the top of the search field labeled Buscar, enter the phrase "curatos de Nueva Galicia", but without the quote marks. Click on Buscar at the bottom of the page.

On the next page, under Archivo de Indias click on Mapas y Planos. On the next page, click on the text that begins with "Plano que", and on the next page, click on the box with the text "Ver imagenes" near the top. The image will then open in the next page.

Click on the large image to further enlarge it. Right click on the enlarged image will allow

My experience has been that translation of an entire webpage really never works well.

You best bet is to cut and paste the various parts. I did this an it worked. You'll need to do this page by page (or perhaps only a part of the page).

For civil birth records, it seems that the normal service this company provides is to get official copies for you. To correct a record is a legal process that they may not do, or you would to talk to them about specifically.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

What do you need translated from the site? What is it you are looking for? I
may be able to help you.

Armando

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Linda wrote:

> Thank you for your suggestions. None of the translation sites work for
> www.tutramiteenmexico.com website. I don't think it wants to be
> translated.
>
> Linda
>

Sometimes it is hard to distinguish between a capital T and a capital F. It helps if it is a common name like Trevino or Talavera.

Dear Linda,
I have seen the TuTramiteEnMexico.com website. You probably do not need the translation of the entire site. We have had an English-Spanish-English translation business since 1992.
We can translate the parts you need. Or let me know exactly what you are looking for and I will devote some time to finding it and probably translating that instead, complimentary.
As for Google, as we say in Spanish, it is better than nothing.
In my experience with German documents from my maternal line, I used Google into both, Spanish and English, to try to make sense of it all, but I ended up hiring a freelance German colleage who works for us when we need him.
Angelina Casillas-Damm

Try google language tools. http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

The translation can be somewhat rough, but it is usually adequate so can you get a reasonable understanding of what is being said.

The site will also apparently do a whole webpage, but I've not used that; I just cut and paste the parts I'm interested in.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

I looked at the marriage record for Felix Luna and Maria Trejo. They had a dispensation for 4th degree consanguinity and 4th degree affinity. Have you looked for the matrimonial information? This may provide some details.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Ramon, un servidor es Jose Maria Vallejo Mercado.
Sobre lo que preguntas de Lorenzo Alcarez Tostado, esta la informacion en el segundo tomo de Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia, de Mariano Gonzalez Leal,
donde estan los datos de sus abuelos, su padre Juan Alvarez Viera casado con Beatriz Tostado, fue el matrimonio que dio origen al apellido Alvarez Tostado, y aparecen sus ancestros tambien.

Sin mas recibe saludos.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: alvarezdmezcala@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:24:42 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos]
>
> Mi búsqueda de mis antepasados culmina por falta de más datos, en mi ascendiente Lorenzo Alvarez. Encuentro su boda en 1585 en lo que hoy es Lagos de Moreno Jalisco.
>
> ¿Alguien de ustedes tiene alguna sugerencia?
>
> Gracias
>
> Juan Ramón Alvarez

Lorenzo Alvarez el mio; n.1555;caso con Agustina Viera,4 Mar. 1585, Santa Maria de los Lagos, Jal.

Mas no se.
Jorge Herrera Saucedo

thank you very much for the info, I´ll pass it to my friend.

Gracias por la información, la pasaré a mi amiga. Feliz Año!

Leticia Leon Morales

________________________________
De: Salvador Quirarte
Para: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Enviado: miércoles, 26 de enero, 2011 19:11:55
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Copy of an original civil record - Leticia Leon
Morales

Leticia, a very fast an easy way to obtain a new copy of an Acta de
Nacimiento from many towns in Mexico is using the Service of a specialized
agency named: TU TRAMITE EN MEXICO. Contact them to verify if they have
coverage in the town you need.

Their web site is: www.tutramiteenmexico.com , so you can look what you have
to do.
The payment can be done in several banks or at any Oxxo store in Mexico.

Hope this info will help your friend.
Saludos
squirarte

2011/1/26

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Hi Omar,

Great find on your great grandfather. I looking for same records for a Br. Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo whow was ordained circa the early to mid 1600s. Did you by any chance order films for those years? Also, can you give an example of one the film numbers you usde so that I might be to able to order some from LDS.

Thanks,

Sergio Gutierrez

Wow, this was a great message. Was it difficult to find the record? Did
you need to look at many rolls of film to find it? Was there any kind of
index? How did you know to look at the 1855 year? I have a possible
priest relative (Cipriano Puente) in about 1865 from Huejucar but don't
know how far back in those Diocese records to look.

Very interesting message, wonderful contribution, thanks.

joseph

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omar_codina@msn.com wrote:
> My great grandfather, Jose Mucio Codina, was ordained to the
> priesthood in Guadalajara in 1855. I found his ordination documents

The best way for your friend to start would be to find out if there is a process for correcting errors in records. She should be able to find out by visiting the local registrar in the municipality where she lives.

If it is possible, it may require an affidavit or other document, such as a sworn statement, from someone who has personal knowledge of what the record should be. The local registrar should be able to answer this question.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Me interesa adquirir los libros:

1.- la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara
2.- Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia (tomo 1 y tomo 3)

Alguien me podría indicar donde podría conseguirlos?

Raul Hurtado Pérez

Me interesa adquirir los libros:

1.- la Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara
2.- Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia (tomo 1 y tomo 3)

Alguien me podría indicar donde podría conseguirlos?

Raul Hurtado Pérez

My husband's 5th great-grandmother was Gertrudis de Alva, born 1745. She married Torivio Aguirre in Aguascalientes in 1763. He was born in 1743. Might she be in your lines?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mariadjimenez@earthlink.net
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:26:36 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] De Alba
>
> No se como enviar e-mails a los miembros, así que aquí me comunico con Maureen Bejar.
>
> Maureen, you have De Alba's in your family tree. I believe we have some relatives in common.
>
> Please send me an e-mail.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Maria Jimenez

se refieren al nuevo (los nuevos) libro? o todavia la edicion pasada?
Por que hace poco vi al autor y me dijo estaba ya casi listo el nuevo libro
y creo que son como 7 tomos.

Los hijos de Antonio Jimenez de Castro y Maria Lopez de Lara fueron seis:

Antonio casado con Tereza Angela Camacho,3 Mar. 1670.

Carlos

Catalina casado con Capitan Domingo Manzo y Zuniga.

Fabiana casada con Alferez Juan Torres Villasana, 25 Nov. 1670.

Juan de Dios casado con Francisca Gutierrez de Mendoza,1677.

Joseph casado con Maria Gutierrez de Mendoza; Jalos. 1683; pelicula #868325. Este es el mio.

Esta informacion fue compilada tambien por Jaime Holcombe; se puede ver con datos

en la pelicula #868247.

Pero creo que esto ya lo tienes.

Jorge Herrera Saucedo.

Hola Jose, es esto lo que buscas?

Antonio Jimenez de Castro casado con Fabiana Urraca, en San Ascencio, Logrono,Espana.

Padres de Fabiana; Martin Urraca y Graciana Vocos.

Padres de Graciana son Martin Vocos y Francisca Cardenas.

Padres de Martin son Francisco Vocos y Catalina Torrecilla.

Fechas despues de Antonio y Fabiana no tengo.

Jorge Herrera
Post Data: Francisca nacio en Badaran, Corduin, Logrono, Espana.

Es posible que somos primos. No tengo todos las pruebas que yo quisiera
tener para probar la descendencia, pero creo que Felipe Ortiz y Juana de la
Barrera sean mis 8th bisabuelos, de parte de su hija, Josepha, quien
caso con Pedro Nicolaso Rubalcaba el 27 de enero de 1717 en Cuquio. Lo
siento que yo tampoco tengo mas informacion de Juana y Felipe, pero tengo 3
hijos mas: Antonia quien caso con Leandro de Orosco el 29 de junio de 1726,
Gertrudis quien caso con Juan Antonio Martinez el 31 de agosto de 1735 y
Lucas, quien caso con Maria de Rubalcaba el 14 de enero de 1735, todos en
Cuquio. Ni he oido del libro que usted esta buscando. Le escribire si
aprendo mas en el futuro de esta rama. (Haga el favor de disculparme de mis
errores gramaticas).
Saludos
Raquel