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Luz Serna, Baptism, 1884 Calvillo Ags. Difficult Traslation.

Published by serna_david -

This is giving me difficulty reading the abuelos Maternos names.
Iglesia San Jose, Calvillo, Ags. May 18 1884
Baptism book 27 , page no. 103 entry no 417, image no. 116 of 127.

for Luz Serna
Maria Luz hija legitima de Marcelino Serna y Maria Lopez. Abuelos Paternos Narciso y Clara Ortiz. Abuelos Maternos ?????? y ?????? Duan. Thanks to anyone who can give me a reading or MATERNAL ancestry.

Published by Armando - Mon, 2009-11-23 09:17 | Permalink

My apologies for posting a bad transcription. I never would have read the first letter as an S. Even in the following baptism the S for Savino and Severa are different. Also this is the first time to learn of the name Sostenes.

Since I had transcribed Sostenes incorrectly I went back and looked at Adrian better and compared the A's and M's within the same and against other baptisms from the same priest. I also did a pilot search and the name Aldrico comes up a couple of times - http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=standa… The two results for Ags. with Aldrico as the father are most likely the siblings of Maria Lopes. Florencio's father is definitely Aldrico 23 June 1857 Image 131 Entry 336.

Armando

David Serna I do agree with you all that Aldrico is the name used. but since in the marriage of Aldrico Lopez & Sostenes Duran, marriage book 6, page no. 7 , entry no. 125, image 9 of 95,and the Informacion Matrimonial August 12, 1854. image 153 & 154 of 257. He is called Enrico clearly . So.. either enrico/aldrico or aldrico/enrico one is a variation or corruption of the other.Its hard to say which. Also the name came up in a google search . An unusual name.

I didn't think it was so unusual since a lot of names and toponyms in Spanish come from German via Visigothic Spain. It turns out it may have been because of a saint. His birth name may have been pretty long because now that I look at another birth record from the link I had posted yesterday his name shows up as Andres and all the other names match. - http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage;c=1…

The origin of Aldric

ALDRIC
Gender: Masculine
Usage: French, Ancient Germanic
From a Germanic name, derived from the elements ald "old" and ric "ruler, power". Saint Aldric was a 9th-century bishop of Le Mans.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/aldric

Armando

Yeah...I had found the marriage for "enrico" and Sostenes and posted it here.

Its possible its a messy A but at least we have the right couple.

I chucked at the fact Sostenes was my relative!

If you need any other help David, let me know.

I barely finished Calvillo Marriages 1813-1839!

I am so happy! I just took note of my relatives so I have aorund 60 marriages noted and

have a copy of each in hand. Im starting on the next one.

Daniel Mendez

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David Serna What shall I enter his name as now ??

Accidental Discovery of New Variation ! NOW HE IS ANDRES NOT ALDRICO/ENRICO ?????

Iglesia San Jose, Calvillo, Ags. Bautismos. 1855-1858. page No. 2 , the entry 379, image 13 of 203.

En la Parroqia ****** 11 de Septiembre 1855 *** 3 dias nacida en Jaltiches *** Geronima hija lejitima de Andres Lopez y Sostenes Duran. Linea Paterna Jose Ma. y Benita Cervantes y por Materna Anastacio Duran y Florencia Esparza. Padrinos Rosalio Perezchica y Refugio Garcia.

Hello Mooskies (I still don't know who I'm talking to)

I've had similar situations where the first name has changed slightly from
record to record. I find that the name on the baptismal record of the
individual is the most accurate, then the marriage record, the last being
the baptismal record of his/her child. However, I do make a note of all
names associated with that individual and you need to make sure that you are
in fact dealing with the same individual. I had a situation where I found
two marriage records with identical names for both bride and groom - within
5 years of each other - roughly the same area ..... it was only by looking
at the details of the marriage record that I was able to figure out which
one belonged in my tree.

I hope this helps - happy hunting
-Angelina-

I had mentioned that in my post on the 25th and I had posted that all of the other names matched, meaning wife and grandparents. I also said his birth name may have been pretty long because of that. I have seen people with up to five names, not including their surnames, on their birth record.

Armando

Well...I suppose Enrico is a nickname for Aldrico which is German-Spanish origin.

Just keep both Andres Aldrico, Im sort of iffy too, Sostenes is my relative. -Daniel Camino

I found this child.

IGI Individual Record
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LORENSO LOPEZ DURAN
Pedigree

Male

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

16 AUG 1868
San Jose, Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
ALDRICO LOPEZ
Family

Mother:
SOSTENES DURAN

Messages:

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

C604351
1863 - 1870
0635770
Film
NONE

Sheet: 00

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Published by mendezdetorres - Sun, 2009-11-22 22:00 | Permalink

Okay Im a mjaor genealogist when it comes to Calvillo.

It is Sostenes Duran. The grandpa is more diffucult I found their marriage possibly. Yes, I just look up their

marriage it looks the same name, it looks like Enrico?. It turns out Sostenes is my relative, Wowo! Thanks It helps both of us.

"En Calvillo.... 16 de nov. de 1854...a Enrico Lopez, hijo natural de Jose Maria Lopez y ???? Cervantes

....Ma. Sostenes Duran hija de Anastasio de Duran y Florentina (Ruiz de) Esparza. The bride's parents

are my ancestors. -Daniel (hope this helps). The good thing abut this record it says my ancestors were

dead already. So this trims the search party.

IGI Individual Record
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MARIA SOSTENES DURAN
Pedigree

Female

Family

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Marriages:

Spouse:
ENRICO LOPEZ
Family

Marriage:

16 NOV 1854
San Jose, Calvillo, Aguascalientes, Mexico

Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

M604355
1854 - 1874
0635888
Film
NONE

Sheet: 00

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Published by Armando - Sun, 2009-11-22 18:00 | Permalink

I found the document at http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1502404;s=waypo… then I saved it to the hard drive then I opened it in Picasa then I cropped it so the jpg would only have María Luz's info. Then I maximized it with Picasa Photo Viewer and it kind of looked something like Madriano and Josfina Duran. Then I challenged my wife to decipher it. We agreed he tried to write Adriano and Justina Duran.

Armando

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