Jauregui and Armas surenames from La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas

Published by abram101 -

Help here wanted to know some of the people with surename Jauregui or Armas that lived in La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas in the year 1850-1900

Published by gpf13 - Fri, 2012-01-06 23:52 | Permalink

Abram

I've been looking into your research topic a bit, and I've discovered that the family of Margarito Armas and Macedonia Jauregui is listed in the 1930 Census for La Jabonera.

What makes it hard to find, is that it is indexed, incorrectly, under the name "Margarito Arenas." Everywhere in the extract below where it says "Arenas" should actually be "Armas." I think the image is actually pretty easy to read, but it was clearly mis-read.

The is what the index has:

Name: Masedonia Jauregui
Head of Household: Margarito Arenas
Age: 40a
Residence: La Jabonera, Nochistlán, Zacatecas, Mexico
Estimated Birth Year: 1890
Birthplace: Zacatecas
Gender: Female
Sexo: Mujer
Civil Status: Married both Civilly and in the Church
Marital Status (Spanish): Casado por lo Civil y la Iglesia
Film Number: 1520536
Digital Folder Number: 4108037
Image Number: 00073
Page Number: 140
Line Number:
Household Gender Age
Margarito Arenas M 45a
Masedonia Jauregui F 40a
Maria Arenas F 14a
Maria Jesus Arenas F 12a
Tomas Arenas M 10a
Anita Arenas F 8a

This is the link to the image.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11863-108650-85?cc=1307314

I would not take the ages as being necessarily correct; census records are notorious for having wrong ages (especially as people get older).

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Abram

According to one of your earlier postings, Mauricio was married in the 1914/17 period, which suggests that he had his own household by this time, thus he would not necessarily be ennumerated in this household. This is actually confirmed in the 1930 Census for La Jabonera which shows his family with Visenta Munoz, and your grandfather J. Candelario Armas as the youngest in the family.

I did a search in Family Search for 'Mauricio Armas' by simply typing in his name and a person indexed as 'Mauricio Armas-Jaureg' comes up in the social security death index. He died in 1987, and was born 22 Sep 1905, but it didn't say where he was born. On a hunch, I thought he could be your gr-grandfather, thinking the name was truncated in the SSDI, and looked in the Nochistlan civil birth records. He is there, and the record names parents, Margarito Armas/Macedonia Jauregui, and all four grandparents Felipe Armas/Leonarda Lozano and Encarnacion Jauregui/Francisca Gonzales.

The Nochistlan records have been extracted, so by using Family Search and the original records together (don't rely on the Family Search extracts alone), you should have some success with your family tree. The Nochistlan records are very good. There is generally more information in the original records than in the Family Search extracts, for example: the birth records usually name the grandparents, but these are not listed in the extracted records.

A word of caution, however, for some reason, the baptismal records do not always have all the children in a family. So if the person you need is not there, look at the records for the brothers and sisters. Also, sometimes the marriage record will not be there, but you will have a list of children who are all 'hijo legitimo,' which means the parents were indeed married.

Best of luck!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Abram Flores
Thank you so much george for all this info.Can you give me the link where you found the civil birth records please?

Abram

It is #740.

The main part of the record is on the link I sent (beginning at the top left page). The record begins at the very bottom of the previous page.

The records are all run together; but they all begin "En la ciudad ..."

The handwriting can be a bit hard at first, but the more you work with the documents, the easier it gets.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Hi Abram,

Based on the information that has been gathered thus far, I have a couple of finds. It looks like the two marriage dates, might have been one for the actual marriage and the second could be when they were veiled. I would suggest you look these up at www.familysearch.org under the Mexico Catholic Records Section for Zacatecas and Jalisco Catholic Records in order to advance. Other than that I belive your line has reached around 1825 over night. I find the period between 1850-present day, you really need to ask living members, find the information that you need. Once you reach pre-1850 you can usually find clues on familysearch. Always double check sources, something I am going back to make sure all is well. I wish you the best of luck in the exciting world of genealogy.

Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino

JOSE DOLORES JAUREGUI GONZALEZ
Pedigree

Male

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

12 NOV 1873
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
ENCARNACION JAUREGUI
Family

Mother:
FRANCISCA GONZALEZ

Messages:

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

No source document or additional information exists.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

C607114
1872 - 1873
0638764
Film
NONE

Sheet: 00

IGI Individual Record
FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

Mexico

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JOSE ENCARNACION JAUREGUI
Pedigree

Male

Family

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Marriages:

Spouse:
FRANCISCA GONZALEZ
Family

Marriage:

31 OCT 1882
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

M606266
1880 - 1883
0226735
Film
NONE

Sheet: 00

JOSE ENCARNACION JAUREGUI
Pedigree

Male

Family

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Marriages:

Spouse:
FRANCISCA GONZALEZ
Family

Marriage:

25 JAN 1883
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

M606267
1883 - 1885
0226736
Film
NONE

Sheet: 00

IGI Individual Record
FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

Mexico

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FELIPE ARMAS
Pedigree

Male

Family

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Marriages:

Spouse:
LEONARDA LOZANO
Family

Marriage:

13 MAY 1879
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

M606265
1874 - 1880
0226734
Film
NONE

Sheet: 00

Sorry the last message was a bit weird. Here is the information in a more concise manner.

groom's name:

Felipe Armas

bride's name:

Leonarda Lozano

marriage date:

13 May 1879

marriage place:

Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico

indexing project (batch) number:

M60626-5

system origin:

Mexico-ODM

source film number:

226734

groom's name:
Jose Encarnacion Jauregui

bride's name:
Francisca Gonzalez

marriage date:
31 Oct 1882

marriage place:
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico

indexing project (batch) number:
M60626-6

system origin:
Mexico-ODM

source film number:
226735

groom's name:
Jose Encarnacion Jauregui

bride's name:
Francisca Gonzalez

marriage date:
25 Jan 1883

marriage place:
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico

indexing project (batch) number:
M60626-7

system origin:
Mexico-ODM

source film number:
226736

JOSE DOLORES JAUREGUI GONZALEZ
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
12 NOV 1873
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
Father:
ENCARNACION JAUREGUI
Mother: FRANCISCA GONZALEZ

Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino

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