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color=#0000ff size=2>Maybe that's why they thought my dad was one of them in
Morroco, also in Portugal. In Spain they talked about him as if he didn't
know what they were saying. Of course my dad being my dad let them know,
and also scolded them for taking all of our gold to decorate their
churches... :)
Morroco, also in Portugal. In Spain they talked about him as if he didn't
know what they were saying. Of course my dad being my dad let them know,
and also scolded them for taking all of our gold to decorate their
churches... :)
color=#0000ff size=2>Irma
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto
Duarte
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:20 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Melungeons: Toribio
Romo
1) She lived in El Paso and I believe was born
in
Chihuahua!
2) The Moors were in Spain for over 700 years and
I
suppose that many Spaniards, including us, have their
blood in our
veins. My brother-in-law and his wife
(both born in Los Altos, Jalisco)
just returned from
Spain and told me that the people in southern
Spain
look just like the people from Los Altos, Jalisco.
Also, many of
the north Africans (Moroccans) look like
us; he said he could not tell the
difference.
Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria,
California
--- Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
>
and Ted Williams was 1/2 Mexican (his mom). . .kind
> of got off the
> subject. didn't I?
>
> but Melungeons are such interesting
people and are
> VERY possibly some of
> the earliest non Native
American settlers on the
> east coast. the Story
> goes and DNA
indications seem to say that they were
> crosses between the
>
Native Americans and slaves that Sir Francis Drake
> left behind on
> Roanoke Island on 26 June 1586 which interacted with
> "the lost
colony".
> The slaves left behind were captured either in
the
> Carribean Islands
> and/or close to Spanish waters that were
made of
> Turkish, Moors, and
> Other Mediterranean
peoples,
>
>
href="http://melungeonhealth.org/info.html">http://melungeonhealth.org/info.html
>
> joseph
>
> ps: and it is possible that some of us that
have
> Moor blood floating
> around our veins that have roots
in Jalisco,
> Zacatecas, and/or
> Aguascalientes might be
related to to them. . .boy
> was that a stretch to
> keep it on
topic, wasn't it?
>
>
>
> Arturo Ramos wrote:
>
> >P.S. I have read in a couple of places that it is
> suspected
that
> >Abraham Lincoln was a Melungeon... I will let you
> all
look up that as
> >it is too hard to explain here but needless to
say
> a person "of
> >color".
> >
> >--- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"
> <arturo.ramos2@v...>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The first
enlightened leader of the are which we
> are all
>
>>
> >>
> >researching,
>
>
> >
> >>Miguel de Caldera, was one of the first
Mestizos
> in Mexico. He
> >>encouraged and was trusted
by the Spanish Crown
> and Novo-Spanish
> >>(Mexican)
vice-roy to take indigenous peoples
> (Tlaxcaltecs) into
>
>>the "chichimeca" as a means of pacifying and
> normalizing
relations
> >>with the Caxacanes, Zacatecos, Guachichiles,
etc.
> >>
> >>He was very successful and I am pretty
certain he
> was brown. I am
> >>now researching
Afro-Mexican history and it is
> amazing to see that
>
>>
> >>
> >so
> >
> >
> >>many of the leaders of the Mexican
independence
> such as Vicente
> >>Guerrero and even Pancho
Villa were of African
> descent... not to
> >>mention that
Victoriano Huerta was Huichol and
> Benito Juarez was
>
>>Zapotec. I think that as much prejudice as there
> was back
then,
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>demographic collapse brought
about by Eastern
> Hemisphere diseases
> >>made it necessary
for anybosy to appreciate a
> bright, hard-working
> >>person
and those exemplary people who were willing
> to work did well
>
>>for themselves. Statistically probaly not as well
> as they
might
> >>
> >>
> >have
> >
> >
> >>done now a days but definitely
better than people
> of color were
> >>
> >>
> >doing
> >
> >
>
>>in the United States at the same time... Benito
> Juarez was
> >>
> >>
> >president
> >
> >
> >>at the same time as Abraham
Lincoln...
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>>--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte
>
<albertodua@y...>
> >>wrote:
>
>>
> >>
> >>>Hey, Emile,
some mestizos from Jerez held
> predominate
> >>>positions
in Zacactecas! Two of our Gracia de la
> >>>Cadena family members
were governors (Francisco
> Garcia
> >>>Salinas and
Trinidad Garcia de la Cadena) of
> >>>Zacatecas, and many recent
Duartes, Gracias,
> Tovars,
> >>>and Sanchezs are doctors,
lawyers, writers, and
> >>>successful business men throughout
Zacatecas.
> But
> >>>yes, light skin Mexicans do have an
aveage over
> those
> >>>of dark skin, just like in this
country.
> >>>
> >>>Alberto Duarte Prieto
>
>>>Santa Maria, California
> >>>
>
>>>--- Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@h...> wrote:
>
>>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>>Irma--
> >>>>
>
>>>>No, I don't have the surname Romo in my lines.
>
It
> >>>>is my husband's ancestors, the Garcias, who
are
> >>>>light skinned, tall, light haired, and
>
hazel-eyed or
> >>>>blue eyed Tapatios from Jalisco. The
photo of
> the
> >>>>saint in the article for which I
sent a link
> bears a
> >>>>striking resemblance to my
husband, his father,
> and
> >>>>his great-grandmother,
Marciana Cervantes. I
> have
> >>>>traced some of
the Garcias who married into the
> >>>>Calzada family that
were from Rincon de Romos.
> My
> >>>>husband's
gggg-grandfather Cayetano Garcia
> married
> >>>>Anna
Cleta Calzada. Marciana Cervantes was
> >>>>descended
from Patricio Martines [Martin] who
> >>>>married Maria Maxima
Duron; they were also from
> >>>>Rincon de Romos. In
between there were
> Aguirres,
> >>>>Albas, Gonzaleses,
Moroneses, Ornelases. The
> >>>>closest surname to Romo
in my husband's lines is
> one
> >>>>Roman.
> >>>>
> >>>>I was just amazed that someone
surnamed Romo
> from
> >>>>Jalostitlan could look so
much like my husband's
> >>>>Garcia-Cervantes family from
Encarnacion de Diaz
> in
> >>>>Jalisco. People in
Jalisco and Aguascalientes
> must
> >>>>be
inter-related. They also look different from
> the
>
>>>>people I saw in Jerez when I went there in the
>
>>>>1960's with my father. It seems my husband's
>
>>>>ancestors were always merchants or military, or
>
>>>>religious, etc. (town people) and were not
>
laborers
> >>>>on the ranchos like my ancestors. That
leads me
> to
> >>>>believe that the Spaniards were more
educated
> than
> >>>>the Mesizos in Mexico and held
positions of
> >>>>authority and in commerce rather than
laboring
> in
> >>>>the fields and ranches.
>
>>>>
> >>>>Emilie Garcia
>
>>>>Port Orchard, WA ---
>
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