Joseph, 

I'll do the translating for you. Just give me a little time and I'll 
email you the Spanish version. 

Just one thing.  Should I wait until you make final revisions to the 
English original?  

Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> Who is the English Major in the group? I really really need help 
getting 
> the following form letter into the proper English before I work 
with 
> John and anyone else that would care to join in translating it into 
Spanish.
> 
> Can someone help me with the English?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: its okay to tear it to shreds and rewrite if that is what it 
needs. 
> All I care about is that the basic information be included.
> 
> ====================
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm glad you are interested in joining the Ranchos group: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/. We are a small but 
dedicated 
> group of serious researchers. Here is the description of the group 
from 
> our home page:
> 
> "This group is for those actively searching for their Mexican 
Genealogy 
> Roots. El objetivo de este grupo cibernético es para poner en 
contacto 
> genealogistas serios que tienen raíces en Jalisco, Zacatecas y 
> Aguascalientes, y así, facilitar las investigaciónes genealógicas 
de los 
> miembros. The intent but never the requirement is to stay focused 
on the 
> Ranchos of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. If you are a 
serious 
> researcher or want to be a serious researcher this group is for 
you. If 
> you have no intention of doing your own research I would suggest 
the 
> multitude of message boards available at Rootsweb. Please scan 
through 
> the message archive, which is open to the general public, to get an 
idea 
> of what is meant by doing your own research.
> 
> Note: If you decide to join this group it will be expected that as 
soon 
> as you are comfortable you will introduce yourself describing what 
> surnames you are researching in what areas during which time 
periods. 
> Also you will be expected to send in your Genealogy line from the 
> Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes areas so that we can try to 
make 
> some connections with one another. These files or links to your 
> Genealogy will be kept in Non-Public areas of the group."
> 
>  This group is also open to those earnestly desiring to become 
serious 
> researchers. To join the group I need for you to acknowledge your 
> willingness to comply with the two simple requirements:
> 
> 1) You have done or are willing to do your own research. [This 
group is 
> only for those that do their own work. What I'm saying is that some 
only 
> look for others that have done all the hard work and then 
contribute 
> nothing to it. There are plenty of message boards on Rootsweb that 
offer 
> opportunities like this].
> 
> 2) You are willing to send me your genealogical line so I can put 
it in 
> the "non-public" files section of the group. The strength of this 
group 
> is the unity within the members. Several of us have found that we 
are 
> related. I have found 2 sixth cousins and another 2 cousins that is 
yet 
> to be determined as to the exact relationship. Many others have 
found 
> relatives in the group only by tying into their genealogies. We 
find 
> connections and share our work and help one another.
> 
> If you have any reservations about the above requirements why not 
take 
> some time and think about it. In the meantime please look at the 
groups 
> home page and look at the message archives which are open to the 
public.
> 
> Joseph Puentes
> makas@n...
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/
> 
> ps: I need a written reply in an email (makas@n...) in the 
> affirmative with regards to the two requirements in order for me to 
> subscribe you.

OK, Joseph.

I'll wait while you revise the text.  If you already have something 
worked out with John, I think he can manage the translation on his 
own with no problem.  Of course, if any of you want my opinion just 
let me know.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> Victor thanks,
> 
> I have something worked out with John Gonzalez and I would like to 
> include you in it as well if you both don't mind. I would like 
for "me" 
> to try to translate it.I'll do it in sections and I'll then send 
both 
> you and John the section . You guys can email each other until you 
both 
> are in agreement which translated version is easiest for most 
Spanish 
> speakers to understand. then we'll move on to the next section.
> 
> Marge Vallazza is going to do the English upgrade so it will be a 
little 
> while before I have my first section done.
> 
> thanks for the offer and when I'm ready I'll privately send you and 
John 
> the first section
> 
> thanks much. . .gracias a los dos,
> 
> joseph
> 
>