Are you sure. . .maybe my use of the phrase ILL is wrong. I thought
that if there was an area that didn't have a close by FHC that they
would let the films go to a local library. Its not exactly an ILL but
kind of. I thought that since that library that Victor attends has such
user unfriendly hours that the FHL might consider allowing this. I
really don't know. I might be absolutely wrong about this.



joseph



mexicanfhr site wrote:

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know, the
FHL does not do Inter Library Loan.  There are a few Public libraries,
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Hispanic and
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w:st="on">ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes

Sent: Friday, October
14, 2005
12:59 AM

To:
w:st="on">ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Films on
permanent loan.
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face="Times New Roman"> 

face="Times New Roman">why not talk to
w:st="on">Salt
Lake and pettition them to
allow your
films to be ILL
to you local library. All they can do is say no. I've understood that
in some
cases they will do that, but maybe that's only when there are
absolutely not
FHC anywhere close. This might not apply in your case.



Jonathan do you know about this?



joseph



Peggy Delgado wrote:

style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">You and me
both, brother.....

color="black" face="Tahoma">
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-----Original
Message-----

From:
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com [
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of v.h.villarreal

Sent: Thursday,
October 13, 2005
7:08 PM

To:
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos]
Films on
permanent loan.

color="black" face="Courier New">Peggy,
size="2" face="Courier New">
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">



I understand your feelings.  The
nearest FHC
for me usually opens only

on Saturdays and just for three
hours.  It
has 2 projectors but only

one is in working order.  On my last
visit I
was shown a letter where

they were asking for the films I
haven't even
reviewed to be sent

back.  At this rate it'll take at
least a
couple of lives to find all

my ancestors.  jah!  Maybe I'll find
myself in the next life!



Victor



--- In
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com,
"Peggy Delgado" <peggydee@c...>
wrote:

>

> Good Afternoon fellow
researchers....

>

> I have a really silly question. 
Do you
members have the actual

microfilms

> that you refer to in this message?

> How is it that you can get them
for such a
long period of time.

When I go

> to the FHC, I only get them for a
couple of
weeks.  They come in

from SLC, I

> look through them at the center
using their
equipment, request copies of

> certain documents, then they get
sent
back.  What am I doing wrong?

Do you

> have these microfilms in your
possession?  (wow!)  Does it cost more?

>

> I've been reading the posts but
haven't done
any research (studying

for a

> civil service test....), but I
always like to
read the entries.  I'm so

> lost...what's the deal with these
podcast and
who are the people being

> interviewed?  If I can't
participate in
the podcast, are there

transcripts?

> What information is being given
here? 
Sorry about all these

questions, but

> after studying for that test,
becoming a shop
steward for my work's

union

> and almost going on strike, I
haven't been
really up on things.

>

> I have lots more questions, but I
feel like
I'm coming off

"whiny"...sorry.

>

> Signed

>

> Wannabe Genealogists, Peggy
Delgado

>   -----Original Message-----

>   From:
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com [
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> Joseph Puentes

>   Sent: Thursday, October 13,
2005
1:34 AM

>   To:
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com

>   Subject: [ranchos] Jonathan's
Film File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

>

>

>   If you are using Excel then why
can't it be that we all create Excel

>   files and upload them once into
the files area. It seems that

asking you

>   to do double the work by
re-entering them into the database in Ranchos

>   is punishment for a good deed.
then again maybe I'm missing something.

>   Is there an advantage to this
particular data base in the

databases over

>   an excel file in the files area?

>

>   I think the only difference is
that for some they won't do it unless

>   encouraged by Maria to
participate in the one in the databases (me

being

>   an example. . .yes I hear the
message and will be working on my own

>   excel file sometime in the near
future, but i'm so sorry to say that

>   truthfully I hardly get into
the
FHC anymore for my own personal

>   research and all I'll do is be
a
big tease by putting my films up

giving

>   the impression I'll be able to
do
look ups. . .well I' might be

able to

>   do a few, especially if Kitty
or
Rich or Jonathan were to ask for

some).

>

>   Here is my definition of a look
up though: "Providing a photocopy or

>   scan of a persons requested
record if the researcher is provided with

>   the complete name (first and
last) and the date of the occasion (no

>   approximates)."

>

>   thanks,

>

>   joseph

>

>   mexicanfhr wrote:

>

>   >Maria,

>   >

>   >I will try and use your
database, when I have the chance.  My

>   >situation is that I am
using
over 300 films, right now and I am just

>   >barely getting them, into
my
database.  So once, that is done.  I'll

>   >work on putting them, into
your database.

>   >

>   >Jonathan

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

face="Times New Roman"> 

why not talk to Salt Lake and pettition them to allow your films to be
ILL to you local library. All they can do is say no. I've understood
that in some cases they will do that, but maybe that's only when there
are absolutely not FHC anywhere close. This might not apply in your
case.



Jonathan do you know about this?



joseph



Peggy Delgado wrote:

cite="">

color="#0000ff" size="2">You and me both, brother.....

face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of v.h.villarreal

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:08 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Films on permanent loan.

Peggy,



I understand your feelings.  The nearest FHC for me usually opens only

on Saturdays and just for three hours.  It has 2 projectors but only

one is in working order.  On my last visit I was shown a letter where

they were asking for the films I haven't even reviewed to be sent

back.  At this rate it'll take at least a couple of lives to find all

my ancestors.  jah!  Maybe I'll find myself in the next life!



Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado" <peggydee@c...>
wrote:

>

> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....

>

> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual

microfilms

> that you refer to in this message?

> How is it that you can get them for such a long period of time.

When I go

> to the FHC, I only get them for a couple of weeks.  They come in

from SLC, I

> look through them at the center using their equipment, request
copies of

> certain documents, then they get sent back.  What am I doing wrong?

Do you

> have these microfilms in your possession?  (wow!)  Does it cost
more?

>

> I've been reading the posts but haven't done any research (studying

for a

> civil service test....), but I always like to read the entries. 
I'm so

> lost...what's the deal with these podcast and who are the people
being

> interviewed?  If I can't participate in the podcast, are there

transcripts?

> What information is being given here?  Sorry about all these

questions, but

> after studying for that test, becoming a shop steward for my work's

union

> and almost going on strike, I haven't been really up on things.

>

> I have lots more questions, but I feel like I'm coming off

"whiny"...sorry.

>

> Signed

>

> Wannabe Genealogists, Peggy Delgado

>   -----Original Message-----

>   From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> Joseph Puentes

>   Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:34 AM

>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

>   Subject: [ranchos] Jonathan's Film File-was-file uploaded to
ranchos

>

>

>   If you are using Excel then why can't it be that we all create
Excel

>   files and upload them once into the files area. It seems that

asking you

>   to do double the work by re-entering them into the database in
Ranchos

>   is punishment for a good deed. then again maybe I'm missing
something.

>   Is there an advantage to this particular data base in the

databases over

>   an excel file in the files area?

>

>   I think the only difference is that for some they won't do it
unless

>   encouraged by Maria to participate in the one in the databases
(me

being

>   an example. . .yes I hear the message and will be working on my
own

>   excel file sometime in the near future, but i'm so sorry to say
that

>   truthfully I hardly get into the FHC anymore for my own personal

>   research and all I'll do is be a big tease by putting my films up

giving

>   the impression I'll be able to do look ups. . .well I' might be

able to

>   do a few, especially if Kitty or Rich or Jonathan were to ask for

some).

>

>   Here is my definition of a look up though: "Providing a
photocopy or

>   scan of a persons requested record if the researcher is provided
with

>   the complete name (first and last) and the date of the occasion
(no

>   approximates)."

>

>   thanks,

>

>   joseph

>

>   mexicanfhr wrote:

>

>   >Maria,

>   >

>   >I will try and use your database, when I have the chance.  My

>   >situation is that I am using over 300 films, right now and I
am just

>   >barely getting them, into my database.  So once, that is
done.  I'll

>   >work on putting them, into your database.

>   >

>   >Jonathan

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >