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Oh, bless you Joseph, Don't let us in our eagerness overwhelm you. I did vote that we keep the group open to only those that are researching the three states, since my brick walls went up there (also one in your other group). I like that you have the stipulation that all new members be approved by you and that you ask, prior to you accepting them, that they send you a file of their current research to prove they are not just fishing. Besides your other group I have joined Jonathan's "all Mexico" group, so if I have questions about Durango or Southern Chihuahua, I can go there. He has access to every film and book, etc. in the main FHC respository, so his group can fill in some blanks for me there, I hope. I did not realize that Nueva Galicia, of which our area was only a part, was so huge an area. I am going to try and get myself a map of it, then superimpose it on a current map of Mexico. As for brick walls, your persistance has paid off. Dr. Armand Hammer (a noted millionaire who helped others) said, "When I work fourteen hours a day, seven days a week, I get lucky". Ray Croc of McDonald's fame, also said "Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more you work, the luckier you get". I've noticed that most of my brick walls have been broken down when I get a surge of energy or insight into a lead and spend hours and hours on it. I still have a few brick walls to break down, but I count myself lucky that I have been able to develop family trees going back mostly to the 1700's but some to 1598. I am also retired and can devote as much time as I want to this hobby. As for the name "ranchos", the concept of "ranchos" has been hard for my brain to wrap around. It is well-known in Mexico or to those born there, but since my father left there in 1913 and never referred to them or spoke much of his life there, it has escaped me. I first heard of the term in the Jerezano group, which I still belong to but rarely look at since it has become more a forum for young Mexicans with their provincial rivalries between the existing "ranchos" in Jerez and focus on their dueling "bandas" whose rabid fans end up in vulgar name-calling, etc. I used to try to get them to talk about their ancestors or historical buildings, etc, but they are not in the least interested, and they are there in the middle of all that glorious history. Also, my husband's family of university-educated professionals in Mexico sneered at anything that smacked of "ranchero". When I visited them in Mexico City, I told them how disappointed I was that their homes looked just like the homes in the US. There was nothing ethnic in them, no serapes, no pottery, etc. They told me pointedly that people in their circle think such things are "ranchero" and they don?t care for them. They were very European and snobbish and agnostic even though I have traced their ancestry in Mexico back to the 1600s (they probably came with Cortez). In their homes and when we went out they preferred continental cuisine, but did take us to some restaurants that served typical Mexican food. However, the red sauce was hotter than anything I had ever had. They chided me for not eating what the babies in the high-chairs were eating (red hot enchiladas), ha., ha. My husband doesn't like any ethnic décor either. He likes the sleek super-modern, clean lines like Japanese, etc. I would love to decorate the house in the pueblo style of my mother's New Mexico ancestors, but even my mother didn't like that. She liked "shabby chic" American country style, and that is what I have ended up with since I inherited much of her things. Well, I ramble as usual. Bless you again, Joseph, for everything you have done for us. It is really more special than you know. We really appreciate it. Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA --- ----- Original Message -----
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I think the group should stay like it is now. That is my vote! --- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote: > No. I like what we're doing. Sorry you're > feeling overwhelmed, dear > Joseph. Marge:) > > On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote: > > > > > I grow weary. > > > > I can't go any more than how I'm going. > > > > If we were to get a few moderators to handle all > the added traffic and > > keep things orderly including dealing with Data > Miners I might > > consider > > opening up the research area. But truthfully I > can't handle anymore > > and > > if Ranchos were to double in size just from the > geographic area as is > > I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the > handwritting is on the > > wall. > > This group might need a new Moderator before too > much longer. > > > > For that matter why not just everyone move over > to Jonathan's group? > > its > > already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall > its the membership > > that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all > join that group also. > > There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico > without restriction. > > > > there is nothing special about here. Awhile ago > about 15 months or so > > we > > opened up and took in Aguascalientes. I'm all in > favor of taking in > > all > > of historical Nueva Galicia. But I just don't > have the energy to do > > it. > > > > hey why not lets just leave this group as it but > have a Nueva Galicia > > comittee. That comittee (I'm not on it though) > the comittee would then > > plan out the perfect group and then just build > it. When that group is > > up > > and running everybody can go there and join. > After awhile people can > > consider keeping their membership in both places > or just deleting from > > Ranchos and going over to the "Nueva Galicia" > group. I think you all > > need to take up a collection (say 5 bucks a year) > and do the Nueva > > Galica group right. You could have a knock down > dead good looking site > > with plenty of file space and if you all worked > together it would > > work. > > > > what do you think? > > > > jseph > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Aguascalientes > > Zacatecas hotel > > Fiesta americana aguascalientes > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > â?ª Â Visit your group "ranchos" on the web. > > Â > > â?ª Â To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > > Â ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Â > > â?ª Â Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > >
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Joseph,
This group is a familia, your thoughts about expanding it could prove to be fruitful but it would change the focus. Why not keep the group as is and encourage anyone interested in researching other states to join Jonathan's mexicanfhr group.
I joined the group and would love to see more input in the mexicanfhr group, I just sent in about 9 files for my family in Chihuahua and Durango and have more to submit. So come join us!
Bueno, ya puse mis dos centavos.
Yolanda Medina Perez
El Paso, Tx
Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
I grow weary.
I can't go any more than how I'm going.
If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the added traffic and
keep things orderly including dealing with Data Miners I might consider
opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't handle anymore and
if Ranchos were to double in size just from the geographic area as is
I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the handwritting is on the wall.
This group might need a new Moderator before too much longer.
For that matter why not just everyone move over to Jonathan's group? its
already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall its the membership
that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all join that group also.
There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico without restriction.
there is nothing special about here. Awhile ago about 15 months or so we
opened up and took in Aguascalientes. I'm all in favor of taking in all
of historical Nueva Galicia. But I just don't have the energy to do it.
hey why not lets just leave this group as it but have a Nueva Galicia
comittee. That comittee (I'm not on it though) the comittee would then
plan out the perfect group and then just build it. When that group is up
and running everybody can go there and join. After awhile people can
consider keeping their membership in both places or just deleting from
Ranchos and going over to the "Nueva Galicia" group. I think you all
need to take up a collection (say 5 bucks a year) and do the Nueva
Galica group right. You could have a knock down dead good looking site
with plenty of file space and if you all worked together it would work.
what do you think?
jseph
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No. I like what we're doing. Sorry you're feeling overwhelmed, dear Joseph. Marge:)
On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
I grow weary.
I can't go any more than how I'm going.
If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the added traffic and
keep things orderly including dealing with Data Miners I might consider
opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't handle anymore and
if Ranchos were to double in size just from the geographic area as is
I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the handwritting is on the wall.
This group might need a new Moderator before too much longer.
For that matter why not just everyone move over to Jonathan's group? its
already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall its the membership
that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all join that group also.
There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico without restriction.
there is nothing special about here. Awhile ago about 15 months or so we
opened up and took in Aguascalientes. I'm all in favor of taking in all
of historical Nueva Galicia. But I just don't have the energy to do it.
hey why not lets just leave this group as it but have a Nueva Galicia
comittee. That comittee (I'm not on it though) the comittee would then
plan out the perfect group and then just build it. When that group is up
and running everybody can go there and join. After awhile people can
consider keeping their membership in both places or just deleting from
Ranchos and going over to the "Nueva Galicia" group. I think you all
need to take up a collection (say 5 bucks a year) and do the Nueva
Galica group right. You could have a knock down dead good looking site
with plenty of file space and if you all worked together it would work.
what do you think?
jseph
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I agree that we should not expand. If anyone needs something more than this group they have options. (1)leave the group, (2) Start their own group, (3) Join Jonathan's Group. There are probably many other options not mentioned here but for now my vote is to stay as is.
Alicia Carrillo
Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:
Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:
Bigger is not better. Let's keep the group and states
as they are.
Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California
--- Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
>
> I grow weary.
>
> I can't go any more than how I'm going.
>
> If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the
> added traffic and
> keep things orderly including dealing with Data
> Miners I might consider
> opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't
> handle anymore and
> if Ranchos were to double in size just from the
> geographic area as is
> I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the
> handwritting is on the wall.
> This group might need a new Moderator before too
> much longer.
>
> For that matter why not just everyone move over to
>
Jonathan's group? its
> already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall
> its the membership
> that make the group, isn't it? Why can't you all
> join that group also.
> There you'd be able to discuss all of Mexico without
> restriction.
>
> there is nothing special about here. Awhile ago
> about 15 months or so we
> opened up and took in Aguascalientes. I'm all in
> favor of taking in all
> of historical Nueva Galicia. But I just don't have
> the energy to do it.
>
> hey why not lets just leave this group as it but
> have a Nueva Galicia
> comittee. That comittee (I'm not on it though) the
> comittee would then
> plan out the perfect group and then just build it.
> When that group is up
> and running everybody can go there and join. After
> awhile people can
> consider keeping their membership in both places or
> just deleting
from
> Ranchos and going over to the "Nueva Galicia" group.
> I think you all
> need to take up a collection (say 5 bucks a year)
> and do the Nueva
> Galica group right. You could have a knock down dead
> good looking site
> with plenty of file space and if you all worked
> together it would work.
>
> what do you think?
>
> jseph
>
>
>
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