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True that you can't keep people out without password protecting it, but typically people won't find your site unless you advertise somewhere. Believe me, I've set up a couple of sites and monitored the activity and the only people that accessed the site were those that I gave the URL to. One site was for a family reunion and another was for my daughter's girl scout troop. People were not exactly flocking to those sites. I don't know if you read the bottom of the info page on genealogical society pages, but here is what it says: "IMPORTANT: After you have your site up and operational, please send the URL of your homepage to websites@.... The Websites Webmaster will add you to the Guest Pages Index at RootsWeb, which should help increase the amount of traffic your page receives." The above implies that unless we give Rootsweb the URL to our site we would not be added to their index. That means that doing a search on the Rootsweb pages would not find our site. The only people who would be able to find the site are those who know the URL (us members). I did think about keeping non-members out and don't think this would be a problem. Maria --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote: > > > Arturo Ramos wrote: > > >The problem with everybody hosting data on their own sites is that it > >is not possible to make it freely available to members and keep it > >from being accessible to the public in general. > > > yup > > > The Rootsweb web > >space is simply to put up informational information. I don't think > >they have facilities to have member-restricted file access, etc. They > >don't allow any scripts--only static pages on the site... > > > >Though, Joseph, it would probably be worthwhile putting up a page for > >our group there that then leads people back here so that we can use it > >to possibly recruit new members. > > > I'm not wanting to wholesale attract rootsweb people. We are 95 members > strong. We could be 150 strong in 6 months if 1/2 of us picked one or > two people to recruit from rootsweb who gave the strong impression of > being very very serious. None of this "do you know Maria Garcia from > Zacatecas? If so send me her whole genealogy. . .thanks in advance" kind > of people. > > > > >Would people be willing to do a site on a donation basis? > > > you mean two sites? I would be willing to donate $20 a year. You build, > moderate, and webmaster the site and copy the info out of the Ranchos2 > files area and of course add your own. Those that want to have dual > memberships can join. That way as we start growing bigger and bigger and > bigger the infrastructure for the new group would be laid and the > transition to that group only would be less painful. If we see what you > create and its not to our liking well people always have the option not > to join. I firmly believe that a group can be created with the same > format that we have now, tell me Arturo, Am I right? We'd be able to > message each other and archive the messages. we'd be able to have a file > area, we'd basically have everything we have now except much much much > more file space to put things. We really do need to start looking to the > future. . .me estoy haciendo viejito, es tiempo hacer lugar para los > jovenes. > > joseph
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I agree with John and Steven. Free web space is available elsewhere. One such site is Rootsweb. For individual accounts see: http://accounts.rootsweb.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freagree.htm They also have an option for genealogical societies (such as ours) that will give you free space to operate a website. See: http://accounts.rootsweb.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=gensoc.htm If Joseph agrees to be the webmaster this would be a good option for us. Another option is your own Internet Service Provider. Most allow you a certain amount of space to host your own site, but I know some people might be less technical and find this to be more challenging. Maria --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote: > > > John Gonzalez wrote: > > >I believe that if a fee is required to participate in this group, it > >will be the end of this group as we know it. Once you start charging, > >the members will become more demanding in regards as to what materials > >they can, and can not post on this site. Control will be lost...Think > >about it. > > > >If we put our heads together, I am sure we can come up with a > >solution. I am 100% against ANY fees because of the reason mentioned > >above. > > > Another member wrote me privately and said that the answer is that those > that want more controll to modify their own folders should ask me to > remove their work off of the Ranchos site and then they could upload it > to one of the many many free sites and then just link to it in the links > area of the group. This would relieve the files area of the pressure its > under and I could open it again. > > joseph > > ps: You're right John. We can come up with a free solution. . .but if > to many really really want more control then that freedom will cost you > some cambio ($). > > > > >Just my grain of salt... > > > >John Gonzalez > >Wildomar CA. > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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The problem with everybody hosting data on their own sites is that it is not possible to make it freely available to members and keep it from being accessible to the public in general. The Rootsweb web space is simply to put up informational information. I don't think they have facilities to have member-restricted file access, etc. They don't allow any scripts--only static pages on the site... Though, Joseph, it would probably be worthwhile putting up a page for our group there that then leads people back here so that we can use it to possibly recruit new members. Would people be willing to do a site on a donation basis? --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "readysetgo95814" <nena@a...> wrote: > I agree with John and Steven. Free web space is available > elsewhere. One such site is Rootsweb. For individual accounts see: > http://accounts.rootsweb.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freagree.htm > > They also have an option for genealogical societies (such as ours) > that will give you free space to operate a website. See: > http://accounts.rootsweb.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=gensoc.htm > > If Joseph agrees to be the webmaster this would be a good option for > us. > > Another option is your own Internet Service Provider. Most allow you > a certain amount of space to host your own site, but I know some > people might be less technical and find this to be more challenging. > > Maria > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote: > > > > > > John Gonzalez wrote: > > > > >I believe that if a fee is required to participate in this group, > it > > >will be the end of this group as we know it. Once you start > charging, > > >the members will become more demanding in regards as to what > materials > > >they can, and can not post on this site. Control will be > lost...Think > > >about it. > > > > > >If we put our heads together, I am sure we can come up with a > > >solution. I am 100% against ANY fees because of the reason > mentioned > > >above. > > > > > Another member wrote me privately and said that the answer is that > those > > that want more controll to modify their own folders should ask me > to > > remove their work off of the Ranchos site and then they could > upload it > > to one of the many many free sites and then just link to it in the > links > > area of the group. This would relieve the files area of the > pressure its > > under and I could open it again. > > > > joseph > > > > ps: You're right John. We can come up with a free > solution. . .but if > > to many really really want more control then that freedom will cost > you > > some cambio ($). > > > > > > > >Just my grain of salt... > > > > > >John Gonzalez > > >Wildomar CA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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