class=629563917-20072005>Never mind, Steven.  I see how they both lead to
Santo Toribio's parents.  I have the first couple in my database, and many
of their descendants, but not the parents.


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class=629563917-20072005>Okay on the second couple, I have their parents and the
ancestors of the parents, but I know that you know the family tree
back:


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Descendants of Jose-Maria
Gonzales



 


Generation No.
1



color=#0000ff>


1.


face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff> J

face="Times New Roman">OSE-
size=2>M
ARIA
 GONZALES (
class=629563917-20072005>son of
JOSE-
size=2>M
ANUEL-V
size=1>ICENTE GONZALES & MARIA DE JESUS
JIMENEZ
) was born  in Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco. He married M

color=#0000ff>ARIA-M
size=1>ERCED
GUTIERREZ
size=2> April 23, 1828 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco MEXICO, daughter of
F
LORENTINO-DE-S
size=1>AN-
MIGUEL
G
UTIERREZ and M
size=1>ARIA-
FRANCISCA
size=2> R
OMO

face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>.


Children of J


face="Times New Roman">OSE-
size=2>M
ARIA G
size=1>ONZALES
and MARIA-
size=2>M
ERCED G
size=1>UTIERREZ

color=#0000ff> are:





class=629563917-20072005>1--
 M

face="Times New Roman">ELITONA
size=1>5
G
size=1>ONZALES,
b. March 09, 1836, (Santa Ana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco MEXICO.


More About M
face="Times New Roman">ELITONA
size=1> G
ONZALES

face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=1>:


Baptism: March 15,
1836



class=629563917-20072005>2--
M

color=#0000ff>ARIA-Z
size=1>EFERINA
G
size=1>ONZALES

color=#0000ff>, b. August 26, 1841, (Santana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Mexico.



class=629563917-20072005>3--
M

face="Times New Roman">ARIA-
size=1>E
UTEMIA G
size=1>ONZALES

color=#0000ff>, b. December 22, 1843, (Santana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Mexico.



class=629563917-20072005>4--
J

face="Times New Roman">OSE-DE-
size=1>S
ANTA-M
size=1>ARTA-DE-
JESUS
G
ONZALES

face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>, b. July 28, 1838, (Santa Ana)
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco MEXICO.


More About J
face="Times New Roman">OSE-DE-
size=1>S
ANTA-M
size=1>ARTA-DE-
JESUS
G
ONZALES

color=#0000ff size=1>:


Baptism: August 01,
1838



class=629563917-20072005>5--
M

face="Times New Roman">ATEO
G
ONZALES

face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>, b. September 20, 1840, (Santa Ana)
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco MEXICO.


More About M
face="Times New Roman">ATEO
G
ONZALES

color=#0000ff size=1>:


Baptism: September 22,
1840



class=629563917-20072005>6--
 G

face="Times New Roman">ABINO
size=1> G
ONZALES

face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>.



color=#0000ff>
 


Generation No.
2



color=#0000ff>


2.


face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff> G

face="Times New Roman">ABINO
class=629563917-20072005>
 G
size=1>ONZALES
  married
A
NTONINA R
size=1>OMO
, daughter of A
size=1>TANACIO
ROMO
and G
UADALUPE G
size=1>ONZALES

color=#0000ff>.


Child of G


face="Times New Roman">ABINO
size=2> G
ONZALES and A
size=1>NTONINA
R
size=1>OMO

color=#0000ff> is:




3. i. J


face="Times New Roman">UANA
size=1>6
G
size=1>ONZALES,
b. May 06, 1869, (Santa Ana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.


color=#0000ff>
 


Generation No.
3



color=#0000ff>


3.


face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff> J

face="Times New Roman">UANA
size=2>6
G

color=#0000ff>ONZALES

face="Times New Roman"> was born May 06, 1869
in (Santa Ana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. She married P

size=1>ATRICIO
R
size=1>OMO

color=#0000ff> June 03, 1885 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco MEXICO.

More About J


face="Times New Roman">UANA
G
ONZALES

color=#0000ff>:

Baptism: May 07, 1869,
Godparents: Jose-Maria Gonzales & Merced Gutierres
class=629563917-20072005>  (her GRANDPARENTS)



Child of J
face="Times New Roman">UANA
G
ONZALES and P
size=1>ATRICIO
R
size=1>OMO

color=#0000ff> is:





i. T


face="Times New Roman">ORIBIO
size=1>7
R

color=#0000ff>OMO, b. Abt. April 16, 1900,
(Santa Ana) Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.


size=1>
 



class=629563917-20072005>Which makes Santo
Toribio my 4th cousin.  Ma. Elena Uhlenburg's 4th cousin,  twice
removed, and John Gonz. 3rd cousin, once
removed.


Pretty cool,
huh?    Please share your article with the Ranchos Group.  I
look forward to reading it.  Great going, Steven.



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class=629563917-20072005>Irma

face="Times New Roman"> color=#0000ff> 






From: Irma GomezLucero
Sent: Tuesday,
July 19, 2005 8:07 AM
To: 'ranchos@yahoogroups.com'
Subject:
RE: [ranchos] Special request for data from Jalostotitlan



color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Steven,

   
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I believe that I might have some info regarding
the second couple.  As you probably predicted, I have also been researching
Santo Toribio, Santa Ana, and wondered whether or when I would find a link being
that my Romos, and Gonzales (both of Santo Toribio's surnames) came from Santa
Ana?   

color=#0000ff size=2>    Can I get more information regarding
Atanacio Munoz & Vicenta Ramirez.  I have many Munoz, Perez &
Franco.  Of those highlighted, who are their offspring?  Do you have
this information?  How do they link to Santo Toribio?

color=#0000ff size=2>Irma





From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:46
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Special
request for data from Jalostotitlan




Hello Ranchos,

 

I am currently researching the ancestry of one of many alteño saints, Santo
Toribio Romo, who was born on 16 April 1900, in Santa Ana, Jalostotitlan. 
His parents were Patricio Romo and Juana Gonzalez, who were married in Jalos on
3 June 1885.

 

I have run into a few dead ends in two of Santo Toribio's ancestral
lines.  It's not that the records are not available, I just don't have them
in my indefinite collection of films at my local family history
center. 

 

My hope is that my Ranchos cousins from Los Altos can help me out.  So
this goes out to Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, Felipe
Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, and new member,
Connie Dominguez.

 

Can anyone out there please search their microfilms and get the following
records for me please.

 

My first request is for the baptism records of Atanacio Muñoz and Vicenta
Ramirez.  I have not yet identified their parents, and there is no mention
of their marriage record in the IGI.  They did however have 5 children,
whose records I'm hoping will mention their grandparents names.

 



 Atanacio MUÑOZ Born: ca 1783 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown


.. +Vicenta RAMÍREZ Born: ca 1786 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Married: ca
1805 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown

María-Teresa de
Jesús MUÑOZ Born: 09 Jan 1807 in Jalostotitlán
, Jalisco
Died: Unknown


... +José-Ricardo Ramón PÉREZ Born: 10 Apr 1802 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco
Married: 22 Sep 1824 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown Father:
Joseph-Miguel Antonio PÉREZ FRANCO Mother: María-Manuela MARTÍN DEL CAMPO
2
José-Ramón de la Trinidad MUÑOZ
Born: 03 Jun 1809 in Jalostotitlán
, Jalisco Died: Unknown

María-Ignacia de San
Anastasio MUÑOZ Born: 21 Aug 1813 in Jalostotitlán
,
Jalisco Died: Unknown

José-Pedro MUÑOZ
Born: 05 Jul 1814 in Jalostotitlán
, Jalisco Died: Unknown


style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">5 
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">María-Estéfana de San Ramón MUÑOZ Born: 28
Dec 1817
in Jalostotitlán
, Jalisco Died:
Unkno
wn

 

Any one of the
above baptisms should yield the information I'm looking for.  The same
holds true for other ancestors of Santo Toribio Romo.  These are José María
González and María Merced Gutiérrez.

 


face="Times New Roman" size=3>
size=3> José-María GONZÁLEZ Born: ca 1806 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died:
Unknown


.. +María-Merced GUTIÉRREZ Born: ca 1809 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco
Married: 23 Apr 1828 in
Jalostotitlán, Jalisco
Died: Unknown

María-Francisca
GONZÁLEZ Born: 13 Mar 1829 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco

Died: Unknown

2 Gabino GONZÁLEZ Born:
26 Feb 1831 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco
  Died: Unknown

... +Antonina ROMO Born: 16 May 1837 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Married: ca
1865 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown Father: Atanacio de la Trinidad
ROMO Mother: María-Guadalupe GONZÁLEZ

 

Either the marriage of José María González and
María Merced Gutiérrez, or their two children will reveal the identity of the
parents José María González and María Merced Gutiérrez.

 

I appreciate any help the Ranchos members can
give me.  My plan is to soon write up an article and genealogical history
of Santo Toribio Romo.  All help is welcome.

 

Gratefully,

Steven Francisco Hernandez Lopez