Esperanza, Regarding the question addressed to me, my haplotype is indeed listed at Gary Felix's web page among the Villarreal surname list. I have several genetic matches or near matches, including your cousin Homero, all of whom have been newly rediscovered distant cousins to me. Our DNA shows the very high likelihood of sharing a common ancestor but at 6 generations back so far on my paternal lineage I still haven't found where our genealogical branches join, which means that it is a little further back into the previous century. I'm still following the paper trail! One very exciting discovery is that as we look deeper into our Nuevo León roots we're finding that they lead back to Zacatecas. Victor --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, latina1955@a... wrote: > > Hi Prima, > I am curious about your brother's DNA - what was he able to learn. In lieu of our possible connection, I would be extremely curious....If you look at Gary Felix's chart, I am related to Homero Villarreal several times over (surnames include Villarreal, Bermea, Trevino) from both my paternal grandparents! > > From my limited understanding about Jewish culture, it seems that there was a definite separation of the three "tribes", generally kept that way by the use of their last names and religious customs. Because of this and the relatively slow migration patterns that occured in early history, there appears to be a definite correlation between certain Jewish sects, in their DNA. I could be mistaken.......The way it was explained to me by several Jewish friends: a Cohnan can only marry another proven Cohnan though the paternal line. This is the "highest sect", but according to my friends, they feel it is a way to subjugate the other "tribes". All other sects were allowed to inter-marry with each other, or even a woman was allowed to marry outside their ancestry, as it has generally been accepted that "Judaism" can be passed by the mother - this, in part, is believed to have occurred when religious and cultural persecution could not determine by their absolute means the paternal Jewish link. > > As you know, the northern part of Mexico (Nuevo Leon & Coahuila) was reportedly settled by Sephardic Jews, but I think the jury is still out in terms of the definitiveness of what particular "tribe" from which they descended - there are many speculations, but because of their persecution, little is really known. The purported associations seem to be in the family last names and possible links to older Jewish surnames. In my own particular family, rumors circulated despite obvious possible repercussion and one legend in particular which included finding a torah between the walls of the "tejas" in Coahuila. So, while I am inclined to believe that Jewish blood runs through my veins, I am also inclined to believe in my African heritage connection as well. > > I can't prove it yet, but my instincts tell me that from the Zacatecas side of the family, there is African blood - the history documents asserts their presence (as does my kinky hair ? just kidding Victor, well - sort of) particularly during the "high" economic rape of the Zacetano silver mines, where profits went straight to Spain or the Catholic Church. You do bring up an important question - how can the DNA project claim where in Africa our possible ancestors originate from? My trip in Africa confirmed that the time of slavery was a great unrest for the indigenous people who had remained stable for so long prior to the 300 years of constant unrest during slavery. Even the "adrinka" Ghanaian symbols were obviously affected by the gold and salt trade with the northern Berbers, and this was during a time of economic prosperity! One would have to perform many "free" DNA projects to make assertions about a particular area in Africa and the descendents. > > I did giggle with your question regarding DNA and Moses & Aaron. But you are right about the movement of families, particularly during times of economic, warfare, political and religious struggles. It is, after-all the reason why most of us are in the United States! > > For now, because of this wonderful forum, I know that you and I are definately related. It would be even nicer to know that we are related several times over, as was the discovery with Homero. > > By the way Victor, are you related to any of the Villarreal's in the Felix's study? > > La Prima....Esperanza >
