I visited the same cemetery when I visited Jerez a
number of years ago.  I took photographs of the
headstones (those that I thought that were related to
me).  The church and cemetery were probably very
beautiful in their time, but yes, the site has been
neglected.  

Alberto.

--- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:

> Dear Jose,
> It's not a very big town but it is a lovely one!  I
> did get to go to a 
> cemetery called El Panteon de Dolores (there was
> more to the name, but 
> I cannot recall it.)  It was very interesting.  Some
> of graves are 
> covered by elaborate headstones and huge carved
> marblery.  A few are 
> very distant relatives or family connections of my
> grandmother's.  What 
> was also sad about this site was that here these
> folks had spent a LOT 
> of money to perpetuate their existence and the
> cemetery was so 
> neglected and overgrown with weeds.  One grave had a
> broken slab and 
> bees had made their hive inside.  My husband, our
> guide, and myself 
> were the only ones there and it was a sobering
> experience.
> 
> Sorry, I don't know anyone's address or anything. 
> Leonardo de la Torre 
> Berumen and Bernardo del Hoyo Calzada are two
> gentlemen whom I met on 
> my trip.  Bernardo and Leonardo collaborate a lot on
> historical 
> research.  You might be able to get Leonardo's email
> address from Mimi 
> Lozano's Somos Primos newsletter.  Marge:)
> On Jun 30, 2005, at 1:50 AM, zendean wrote:
> 
> > Margarita;
> >      My great grandfather and ggmother were
> from Jerez, Zacatecas. I 
> > wonder,
> >  is it a big town ? Francisco Macias and his wife
> Leonarda Ramirez are 
> > and
> >  have always been a mystery to me. My Aunt told me
> that they visited 
> > them in
> >  Zacatecas when they were little and that the
> Macias's lived on a farm 
> > there.
> >      I wonder if you know some one that is
> there now that I can 
> > correspond
> >  with to ask about them.
> >
> >  Jose Macias
> >  usa20@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: "Margarita Vallazza"
> <TeaCozyGran@...>
> >  To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> >  Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:51 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [ranchos] FOOD:Mole/Pipian/Genealogy
> >
> >
> >  > My dad's mother was from Jerez, Zacatecas, and
> she died just before 
> > my
> >  > sixth birthday so I don't have a lot of
> memories of her but here's 
> > one
> >  > or two:
> >  >
> >  > I remember her fixing something called atole,
> which I didn't like, 
> > but
> >  > remembering it from a fog of some years'
> distance, I would say it's 
> > a
> >  > healthy drink.  She also had prunes in her
> oatmeal, so when I'd pop 
> > in
> >  > to visit her in the morning and she had some,
> I'd be served a dish 
> > of
> >  > it and enjoy it.  I liked it better than my
> mother's porridge 
> > (which I
> >  > realize now was a true Scots dish).  At
> special times, don't know 
> > what
> >  > they were, Abuelita would have capirotada,
> which I didn't like too
> >  > well.  Remember, I was just a kid!:)
> >  >
> >  > I'll have to think about some more food...some
> of it was just the 
> > food
> >  > from northern Mexico that my grandfather
> liked--he was from 
> > Chihuahua
> >  > city.
> >  >
> >  > I wish I had had the blessing of more time with
> my grandmother, 
> > maybe I
> >  > would have learned things about her family in
> Zacatecas.  I believe
> >  > even she didn't know a lot about her family
> history and I say that
> >  > because my Tias, dad's sisters, don't know much
> about their mother's
> >  > life in Zacatecas.  I'm the one who told my
> Tia Carmen that my 
> > abuelita
> >  > had a full sister named Paula, a full brother
> named Jose (who died 
> > in
> >  > 1919)  and 2 half-sisters and a
> half-brother...they never knew!  
> > People
> >  > in the old country NEVER discussed anything
> private.  Marge:)
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