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Hola. I responded to Alicia Carrillo's nopalitos
story because I was seeking info with regards the Carrillo name. I believe my
grandfather's name was JOSE CARRILLO but I know very little else about him.
Based on a brief autobiography from my mother, JOSE CARRILLO married
MARIA GARCIA in Chihuahua. They had one child, a daughter, Guadalupe, born
12/12/03. I have NOT BEEN TO CONFIRM/VALIDATE their marriage or the birth
of the child via the Chihuahua City records. I've made two trips to Ciudad
Chihuahua (1997-98). Subsequent trips were made to Zacatecas City. My
research group (La Familia, Anaheim, CA.) also visited nearby Jerez,
Guadalupe and Fresnio. It turns out that my families FERNANDEZ (Grandmother) and
FELIX (grandfather) are from JEREZ, ZAC. and a place called Hermita De
Guadalupe..which I have yet to locate. I can tell you more about Jerez if you
are interested. It is my hope that our research group will visit there
again. What I'd like to share with you is that my research indicates that
MARIA GARCIA'S name was actually MARIA MACIAS. If so, she was 17 at the
time of her death (1905) leaving a 2-3 year old daughter (Guadalupe) in the
care of friends while her husband JOSE CARRILLO had been drafted
(Porfidio Diaz) and sent to serve his enlistment in Sonora. Guadalupe was
brought to the USA by those who were left to care for her and thus became her
foster parents. JOSE CARRILLO returned to Chi. City to find his wife
dead and child gone. Over the years Guadalupe wrote away
for information about herself and her parents but never got a single
response. She was not allowed to go there in person nor could she afford to do
anything more than write letters and make inquiries of people from that area. It
was her greatest wish to someday learn what became of her father JOSE
CARRILLO. She died in 1985, age 82, and is buried in Delano, CA. next to
her husband Leonardo Felix. My research efforts will
next  focus on researching the LDS-Parral/Hidalgo archives for
information regarding MARIA (GARCIA) MACIAS. Our research group visited Parral
in 1997 but the archives were still in boxes and not open to
the public. Jerez, on the other hand, has the original archives open and
available for research.  It may turn out that you and I have some
blood lines in common? If so, this all comes about because of our mutual
interest in nopalitos./Adelante-Raul R. Felix 

    

 

 

 

 

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zendean


Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:29
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Alicia of San
Jose



Alicia Carrillo;

    I know how you feel about not
wanting to be labeled a Mexican in an Anglo society. Now that we Latino's
make up 54% of the population of California it is no longer that much of an
issue.    

    I was so very interested
to read your posting and I felt that you put into writing what I had
experienced myself.         My father lived
most of his later years there in San Jose. He lived on Little Orchard
street.   I visited him there a few times before he
died.  I still have relations there.

    The Macias branch of my
family is  from Zacatecas.  I don't know where and there is now no
one to ask.  I saw a place called "Jerez" on a Document.  I wonder
if "Jerez, Zacatecas" is a City, town, parish, rancho, area or rest
stop.  I have never been there and don't have a map.  Do you know,
Alicia ?

    Funny how a thing does not
follow every generation.  My children don't speak Spanish, didn't take
Spanish in school, don't acknowledge when addressed in Spanish and will not
attempt to speak Spanish, make it a point to let it be known that they have no
interest in anything Latin and generally don't have an issue when the issue is
Spanish. 

   
   


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Alicia
Carrillo


Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:06
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] More about
Nopales



Here's more on Nopales

 

My family originates from Zacatecas, specifically Tlachichila from the
Municipality of Nochistlan. As we all know many people have migrated to the
Norte or Los Estados Unidos or as many say El Otro Lado. I grew up in the US
of A in San Jose Calif in an all Anglo community and one thing I didn't want
to be was different from the rest of my class. However different we were. We
had to speak spanish at home which for one who doesn't want to be different
or admit to anyone that you're different this was a tough one to hide.

 

When we brought friends home we had to speak spanish to my parents and
if someone stayed over for lunch or dinner we had tortillas, nopales, salsa,
mole etc etc.( trying pretending that you're not Mexican). Our
parents knew that we were ashamed and a famous saying was "what are you
trying to hide, anyone who sees you can see the nopales on your forehead and
hanging on your ears. Translation "De que to escondes, se te ven los nopales
en la frente y los traes colgados de las orejas". When I was young I
couldn't understand this saying having been raised here since I was two and
not knowing what Mexico looked like. The first time I went in 1977 I finally
understood what they meant by Los Nopales on the forehead. Nopales grew wild
everywhere in that region. They even fed nopales to the cows when there was
nothing else to feed them during the dry season. They would burn or scald
off the thorns then feed them to the cows, how's that for a recipe for
nopales.

 

Just a little Zacatecas family story.

Alicia


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