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I have a marriage record for Cruz Chaves y Juana Gonzales dated 02 April 1856. It states that Cruz Chaves, single, 22 y/o native and resident of Hacienda de Plateado, legitimate son of Agustin Chaves y Guadalupe Gusman, who are alive... bride: Juana Gonzales, 18 y/o native and resident of the Rancho de la Savor (?) not sure of the spelling of the rancho. Juana is the legitimate daughter of Cesario Gonzales y Maria Demetria Aleman, (alive).

Any help is estabishing the correct name of the rancho, and where it is located would be greatly appreciated.

I have spent years trying to establish the linage of Juana Gonsalez, and I finally believe that her first marriage was to Cruz Chaves in 1856, and that her second marriage was to Juan Corvera/Corbera in 1865.

If I can establish the name of the Rancho, I may then beable to locate Juana's birth record, as well as the marriage record of her second marriage.

Thank You,
Pat Silva Corbera
patriciacorbera@comcast.net
Tracy CA

Hello everyone, I just received a copy of the second marriage of José Maria
Villalobos and with the names of his parents I think I have found a large
number of his ancestors on pilot search and Geneanet and I am hoping for
verification and help with further research especially since they hopefully
tie into some trees of others on here.

Hola a todos, acabo de recibir una copia del segundo matrimonio de José
María Villalobos con los nombres de sus padres y con esos nombres he
encontrado mas información usando pilot y Geneanet y pido la ayuda de Uds.
en verificación de datos y aportes para poder seguir la investigación.

En el registro del bautismo dice lo siguiente -
José María Villalobos Español de la Mesa Redonda h.l. de D. Juan José
Villalobos y de Da. Ygnacia Gonzales.

I found the marriage of the parents on pilot with the following info -
Encontré el matrimonio de los padres y sigue -

Groom's Name: Juan Jose Villalobos
Bride's Name: Maria Ygnacia Gonzales
Marriage Date: 19 May 1779
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Juan De Villalobos
Groom's Mother's Name: Petra Galban
Bride's Father's Name: Pedro Gonzales
Bride's Mother's Name: Petra Moreno
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-6
Source Film Number: 221517
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

I then looked up the parents of Ygnacia and found the following -
Name: Maria Ygnacia Lucrecia De San Joseph Gonsales Moreno
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Nov 1764
Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS DE
MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Pedro Gonsales
Mother's Name: Petra Moreno
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60413-2
Source Film Number: 221413
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

I looked up their parents and I found the following -
Groom's Name: Pedro Gonzales De Rubalcava
Bride's Name: Anna Petra Moreno Gamino
Marriage Date: 22 Feb 1745
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Nicolas Gonzales De Rubalcava
Groom's Mother's Name: Maria Gallegos
Bride's Father's Name: Nicolas Moreno Gallardo
Bride's Mother's Name: Maria Getrudis Moreno Gamino
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-3
Source Film Number: 221514
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

When I looked up Gonzalez and Gallegos in pilot I found the following -
Groom's Name: Nicolas Gonsales
Bride's Name: Maria De La Encarnacion Gallegos
Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1723
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Melchor Gonsales
Groom's Mother's Name: Maria De Ysasi Y Campo
Bride's Father's Name: Gabriel Gallegos
Bride's Mother's Name: Getrudis Macias
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-2
Source Film Number: 221513
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

When I looked up Melchor I found the following -
Groom's Name: Melchor Gonsales De Robalcaba
Bride's Name: Maria De Yssassi
Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1690
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Gonsales De Robalcaba
Groom's Mother's Name: Ana Gonsales Florida
Bride's Father's Name: Nicolas Martin Del Campo
Bride's Mother's Name: Sebastiana De Yssassi
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-1
Source Film Number: 221512
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

When I looked up Nicolas Martin del Campo I found the following -
Groom's Name: Nicolas Martin Del Campo
Bride's Name: Sebastiana Munos De Ysassi
Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1663
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60412-1
Source Film Number: 221404
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

In Geneanet.org I have found the ancestors of* *Nicolás Martín del Campo
López de la Cruz** thanks to both Javier Sanchiz Ruiz and Francisco Martín
Lara.
En Geneanet.org encontré los antepasados de Nicolás Martín del Campo López
de la Cruz gracias a Javier Sanchiz Ruiz y Francisco Martín Lara.

When I looked up Moreno and Gallardo I found the following -
Name: Joseph Manuel Moreno Salazar
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1699
Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS DE
MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Miguel Moreno De Ortega
Mother's Name: Catharina De Salazar Gallardo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60412-3
Source Film Number: 221405
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

Is anyone familiar with, or have information on a factory in Durango
state named 'Constancia' around 1900?
Thanks In advance.

Raymond Medrano

Does any one has information on where is the Rancho de los Ríos, Jerez, Zacatecas and who founded it?

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Busco informacion sobre Pilar Ortiz y Paula Torres. Lo unico que tengo es que se casaron en San Felipe Gto. Se que tuvieron a u hijo llamado Jose Estanislao Ortiz en San Isidro de Ocampo.

Si alguien me puede ayudar busco los papas de Pilar Ortiz.

Hi everyone, my name is Ruben Marquez and I am currently researching my grandma. I am an amateur I assure you, I seriously cant find any information about her, her kids and where they where at at the turn of the 20th century. The only thing I have found was a birth/death certificate from my Uncle where it states her name and her first husbands name Jesus Montes. The bad part is that it only states 1924 and the birth place of Mezquital, Jalisco, Mexico. The information that I have is bellow. If anyone has found any information during your research and would like to share it would be deeply appreciated! Thanks

Ruben Marquez

Buenas, my nombre es Ruben Marquez y estoy buscando mas infomacion sobre mi abuela, Maria Marquez Meza. Tengo 2 meces buscando informacion y la unica informacion que he podido encontrar hasta hoy es el certificado de nacimiento/defuncion de mi Tio Griceldo donde incluye a mi abuela y a su primer esposo, Jesus Montes.

El problema es que el certificado dice que mi tio nacio en 1924 en la ciudad de Mezquital, Jalisco cuya no he podido encontrar. Desgraciadamente no tengo mucha informacion de mi abuela, y no estoy tan seguro que el dia de nacimiento que tengo de ella sea el correcto. Mi familia no esta tan segura de donde nacio.

Si algien tiene alguna informacion de Maria Marquez, Jesus Montes, Jesus Griceldo Montes de Mezquitic o Mezquital Jalisco, se le agrecediera eternamente.

Ruben Marquez

Mexico Babtisms, 1560-1950

Name: Jesus Griceldo Montes Marquez

Gender: Male

Baptism/Christening date and Place: n/a

Birth Date: 1924

Birth Place: Mezquital,, Jalisco, Mexico

Death Date: 23 May 1970

Name Note: n/a

Race: n/a

Father's Name: Jesus Montes

Father's Birth Place and age: n/a

Mother's Name: Maria Marquez

Mother's bithplace and age: n/a

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: L00841-1

System Origin: Mexico-ODM

Source Film Number: unknown

Reference Number:

Today I was researching my Lizarraga line, and I discovered an interesting entry for my paternal 4th Great Grandfather, Salvador de Lizarraga, married to Maria Rosa de Herrera Anzaldo, on 20 Oct 1748 in Ixtlán del Río, Nayarit. The matrimonio record includes the following: "...vecinos de los ranchos de esta jurisdicción
El Morisca". In addition below my grandfather's name in the margin of the page is the entry, "El Morisco", or "Morisco".

My Velázquez dictionary reads: Morisco: a. Moorish, belonging to the Moors. 1. Name given to the Moors who remained in Spain after its restoration. 2. (Mex.) Quadroon. (The "Quadroon" dictionary definition, of course, is an "hijo de blanco y mulata o de muluto y mujer blanca".

I had never to date in my family research seen this racial designation. So I am wondering is it more commonplace than I believe? I would be interested in your thoughts.

Thank you.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Buenas a todos

Estudiando la rama "de la Torre Ledesma" me encontré con una situación que a lo mejor alguien de este foro ya la tiene resuelta y es el de Gertrudis Epigenia De la Torre Ledesma casada con Domingo González Rubio por ahí de 1724.

El caso es que al parecer existieron dos Gertrudis Epigenia de la Torre Ledesma por la misma época, una de ellas nacida el 3 de mayo de 1699 en Estanzuela, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico y cuyos padres fueron Juan de la Torre Ledesma y Mariana Casillas y Cabrera (Batch Number: 7018710, Sheet: 89, Source Call No.: 0538579)

Y la otra también Gertrudis Epigenia de la Torre Ledesma nacida el 12 de diciembre de 1705 en Tepatitlán, Jalisco, México, cuyos padres fueron Clemente de la Torre Ledesma y Catalina Franco de la Cueva (Batch Number: 8683207, Sheet: 31, Source Call No.: 1396258)

como se puede observar, las dos Gertrudis fueron contemporáneas, de hecho se llevan 6 años de diferencia y de ahí la confusión, dado que cualquiera de las dos puede haberse casado con Domingo González Rubio.

Si tomamos en cuenta que el matrimonio entre Domingo y Gertrudis se celebro en Tepatitlán el 30 de mayo de 1724, podríamos deducir que es la nacida en 1705 habiéndose casado de ser esta de 19 años, pero la hija de este matrimonio llamada María Antonia González Rubio y de la Torre Ledesma nació en Jalostotitlán en 1727 por consecuencia se podría deducir por este lado que es la nacida en 1699 habiéndose casado de ser esta de 26 años.

He buscado en todos varias fuentes y no encuentro nada al respecto, espero que los expertos de este foro mi ayuden a encontrar la luz para poder continuar en mi investigación.

Un gran saludo a todos.

Miguel GdH

Hola Mike, los felicito por la reunion familiar, nunca pense que se juntaran tantos, 1500 personas es un record.
Ruben Casillas M.

Has anyone heard of this place - Feligresía de Villita? (Ags marriage
record dated 1874, birthplace of spouse). From context I presume it
was in Aguascalientes, Zacatecas, or Jalisco. And perhaps it could be
intended to mean "Feligresía de la Villa de Aguascalientes", but
that's a bit of a stretch. I found numerous Villitas in Ags, Zac, and
Jalisco but most of them were ranchos or other small entities and I
can't decide which of them, if any, may be part of a parish or
feligresía of the same name.
Incidentally, the record in question refers to persons who also lived
in Letras, so I presume that unless they travelled far, Feligresía de
Villita must have been not too far from Letras.

--
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com

Group Help on Methodology Required,
I need to know the correct methodology because for the first time I'm researching surnames that are plentiful:  Sepulveda and Morales.  And to complicate things, these surnames intermarried alot in the same time periods and locations. 
 
From film research, this is the last thing I am certain of: 
Maria Luisa Sepulbeda married Juan Fermin Santelices
02/27/1793 in Dolores Hidalgo, GTO
Her parents are named: Gregorio Sepulbeda and Manuela Morales.
 
I can't find either definite baptismal entries, so I go their marriage.
 
I found a Joseph Sepulbeda married Ma Manuela Morales 12/07/1774 in Snta Barbara, Chichuachua.  
 
A Joseph Sepulbeda married Ma Barbara Morales 07/08/1777
in Chichuachua, Chichuachua.
 
A Valentin Sepulbeda married Ma Eulogia Morales 10/04/1756
in Cuidad Victoria, Tamauliapas.
 
My immediate reaction was to go with the first couple because it's the best match, but am I correct in assuming this?  It didn't specifically mention Gregorio, just Joseph Sepulbeda, but knowing how interchangeable they were with their names, on the other hand, it did have Ma Manuela Morales. 
 
When is enough evidence, enough.  Or how would you suggest finding more to support my assumption.  Your help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks so much,   Alice
 

Off the top of my head, I am looking for the parents of my ggggrandmother,
Urzina Hernandez. She was probably born in the 1830's or 1840's as she is the
second wife of Cayetano Borjon who was born in abt 1825. I am related to the
following families from this area: Borjons, Rincons, de Leons, Guererros, Ricos,
Montellanos, Betancourts, Arias',Mesas,Lunas, Garcias, Mergils, Buenos,
Magallanes',Amaros, Gonzalez',Hernandez',Carrillos, Laras, Villavencencios,
Amayas, Santos', Roldans, and last but not least Barrios'. I believe she may
have been born in Sauceda, Zacatecas or San Mateo, Zacatecas.  I have checked
LDS listings but have been unsuccessful.  Any suggestions on how to continue
when one has hit a brick wall?

Thank you for your interest.

Christopher Barrios de Leon

Hi all -

I have adding the census taken in 1679 in Jalostotitlan & San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco. It also contains records for families living in seven other pueblos in the surrounding area, most notable for their indigenous population.

LINK: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18950

I extracted the pages from the book titled "Historia de Nuestra Senora de San Juan de Los Lagos," which was published in Mexico in 1903 and is available at books.google.com. I though it would be convenient to post only the pages that contain the census.

It is hard to find ancestors unless you already have a substantial database of family groups with names from that period. I found it useful in confirming marriages and mother-father relationships that I had suspicions about, but had no concrete proof.

Please note that the letters "esc." after a name designates "slave/esclavo(a)" - kind of hard to take, but that's the way things were in those days. The census was finalized on May 6 of 1679.

Happy hunting.

The website address is www.Geneall.net. I have used this website for years when researching my Portuguese ancestry.

Once on the main page of Geneall I selected Espanol, by clicking on Base de Dados, on the left hand side of the page, one will find a listing of all the names that appear.

I tried searching for the Gonzalez surname that John mentioned and I came up with hundreds of individuals with Gonzalez surnames.

Pat Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: esther1998@yahoo.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:30:14 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] To Linda - Re: Geneanet. org

I am absolutely NOT posting an ad. I was merely posting an inquiry to my fellow genealogists as to the validity of this site.

As I mentioned before, I stumbled across it by accident and thought it was too good to be true. It seemed extremely easy (too easy), yet beneficial. Being the skeptic that I am, I was hoping to gain some feedback from anyone that might have used the site before offering any of my own research.

Esther Reynoso Valencia
facebook.com/esther.r.valencia

I began researching my ancestry at the Family History Center of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

I know all my grandparents names and birthdates. But I was interested in tracking my paternal grandfather and also knew the name of my great grandfather which helped.

I found my grandfather's baptismo in the archives and instantly gave the names of his parents and grandparents.

When I did my research, I would spend Wednesday nights and Saturdays scrolling through rolls of films and backtracked to around the 1720's.

But that was back in the 90's when there was no internet and no website like this to meet other people to share information.

I have not done any more scrolling through films lately.

I also want to mention, I have a loved one that worked in the Archives of Zacatecas, Mexico. She told me that some people would steal some of the books or rip out pages.

Watch out for treasure or relic hunters

Compañeros:

Mi ciudad natal está cumpliendo dos centurias y media de su fundacion, y con tal motivo, el cronista de la ciudad ha publicado una pagina con datoas bastante interesantes acerca de la historia de estas tierras y sus primeros pobladores. (en especial los articulos 4 y 7 me han aportado varios datos genealogicos històricos) Los invito a visitarla:

http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/index.html

Below are the entries from Geneanet on my Olague ancestors from Zacarecas. All nine trees were posted by Salvador Cabral, a member of this group and the one who was instrumental in helping me build my tree where we share many common ancestors from way back.

I had to scroll past a long blank space to get to these results. Don't know why that is.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

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Contact
Nb
Surname
Year
Place
Country/Region
Type

salvadorcabral
1
DEL RIO de OLAGÜE ETULAIN
1681 - 1681
Jerez de Garcia Salinas,Zacatecas
Mexico, Mexico

salvadorcabral
1
OLAGUE
1906 - 1906
Jerez,Zacatecas
Mexico, Mexico

salvadorcabral
4
OLAGUE
1866 - 1878
Salitrillo,Zacatecas
Mexico, Mexico

salvadorcabral
1
OLAGUE
1864 - 1864
Zacatecas,Mx
Zacatecas, Mexico

salvadorcabral
1
OLAGUE
1882 - 1882
Zacatecas,Mx.
Zacatecas, Mexico

salvadorcabral
1
de OLAGUE Y ETULAIN

Zacatecas
Zacatecas, Mexico

salvadorcabral
2
de OLAGUE
1582 - 1727
Jerez de Garcia Salinas,Zacatecas
Mexico, Mexico

salvadorcabral
2
de OLAGUE
1732 - 1732
Hacienda Ojo de Agua Jerez de Garcia Zacatecas
Zacatecas, Mexico

salvadorcabral
1
de OLAGÜE ETULAIN
1582 - 1582
Zacatecas
Zacatecas, Mexico

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Surname: GONZALEZ - Place: ZacatecasOnline Family TreeCollaborative Data46 resultsArchiveOriginal Records & Transcripts hosted by GeneaNetNo results found!LibraryDigitized Books, Magazines and Roll of Arms2 resultsOther SourceIndexes, Misc Online Data, etc.26 results

John, I found the above results for trees and Misc Online Data in Geneanet for Gonzalez surname. Didn't you say that you didn't find anything on Gonzalez in Geneanet? You have to enter the surname AND a place, then scroll down past a long blank space to the bottom to see the results.

When I typed in "Jalisco" as the place, I found hundreds of trees and other resources for Gonzalez.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

This looks like an ad:

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While looking through the NY Times on-line, I came across this article by a Frugal Traveler. Glad to see Zacatecas in the NY Times.

http://frugaltraveler.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/a-helping-of-mexican…

Who is traveling to Zacatecas in the next 18 months?

Any one researching HUIZAR PLEASE contact me!!!! thehuizarfamily@yahoo.com

I just stumbled across this website while doing some research. Has anyone else used it before?

It was a simple process of signing up for a free account (of course, premium services are also available) in order to access trees of other members. So far, I have found a large amount of information that pertains to my family line. It takes a while to learn your way around, but it seems easy enough to use. I haven't yet done so, but you are also able to share your family tree with other genealogists.

Any comments would be appreciated, especially from those who have used this site before.