Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
Does anyone know who the parents of Maria de Escoto are who's married to
Miguel Gonzales de Rubalcaba? she's probably born aroun 1700 or a
little earlier maybe
Danny C. Alonso
Hello my name is Rosario Tiscareño. I am very happy to be part of this group. My paternal family is from Aguascalientes. My great grandfather was Encarnación Tiscareño married to Ma Natividad Tirado. My grandfather was Julio Tiscareño though I have come across his name spelled Julian . He was married to Natalia Rodriguez. My father was José Ines Tiscareño. I hope to be able contribute to this site and learn more as I go. Thank you .
Hello - My name is Brian Alejandro Sandoval, and I've always been interested in learning more about my family's history, but only recently got serious after having my DNA analyzed through 23andMe.com and learning about the various geographical influences on my DNA.
I would love to hear from you if you have done research for the Jalpa, Zacatecas area, and especially if the last names
Sandoval, Ortega, Minjares, Gonzalez, Muñoz, Quezada
Aguayo, Salazar
Chavez, Aldana, Huerta, Valenzuela
Lopez, Perez
have been a part of your research!
In the time I've begun researching my family's history, I've made most progress on detailing my dad's side of of the family. Though, both my mom and dad are from the same area: Jalpa, Zacatecas, which will hopefully make my research easier.
I begin my research in the small rancho - La Pitahaya (sometimes spelled Pitaya) near Jalpa, Zacatecas, Mexico where both my parents grew up.
My paternal grandfather, Juan Sandoval Ortega, died in La Pitahaya in 2004, he was born in the nearby Rancho el Huayavo to Graciano Sandoval and Maria Guadalupe Ortega. In turn, Graciano is the son of Procopio Sandoval and Emelenciana Minjares. Maria Guadalupe Ortega was the son of Macario Ortega and Cayetana Gonzalez. I gathered that information from Juan's birth notice in the Jalpa register for 1920.
I did a quick search of my great great grandparents, and find a baptismal record and then birth notice of Macario Ortega and Cayetana Gonzalez baptizing a child in nearby Apozol, Zacatecas: Jesus Ortega, born Sept 12, 1894, and baptized Sept 16. These documents said his paternal grandparents were Prudencio Ortega and Secundina Muñoz. Cayetana's parents were Juan Gonzalez and Ramona Quezada.
My paternal grandmother Maria de la Luz Aguayo (1926-2001) was born to David Aguayo Quezada (1899-1983) and Maria Salazar Valenzuela (deceased). I found David Aguayo's death certificate, which listed his parents as Santos Aguayo and Ramona Quezada.
My maternal line is much less researched - my grandparents, Fernando Chavez Aldana and Maria Lopez Perez, also died in La Pitahaya, Jalpa, Zacatecas. My mom's oral history is better for Fernando's lineage - he was the son of Margarito Chavez Salazar (~1901-1992) and Maria Aldana Huerta (1905-1979). Margarito was the son of Fernando Chavez and Clara Salazar.
Maria Lopez Perez was born in el Zapote, near Jalpa, Zacatecas, and was the daughter of Casimiro Lopez and Santos Perez.
My research has been somewhat hampered by the lack of records in Jalpa Zacatecas. My dad recalls there was a fire at the Jalpa archives, which explains the lack of documentation. Though in the same story, he explains how his uncle was unable to get his birth certificate in Jalpa because of the fire, but was able to obtain some documentation in the capital, Zacatecas.
I look forward to working with you and contributing to this group, and was glad to find a like-minded community online.
Thanks!
Can someone tell me the last name of the mother of Da Benigna Macias
Valadez who married Eusebio de Esparza
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-691S-G16
Danny C. Alonso
Can someone tell me if the parents are named on this information matrimonial for Phelipe Martines and Francisca Xaviera Duron. I cant read the IMs very well
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYM7-NJJ
Danny C. Alonso
Does anyone know any iformation about the Francisco Prieto Gallardo that was married to Juana Ruiz de Esparza. he would probly be born about 1655 in Aguascalientes. Juana Ruiz de Esparza also goes by Juana Esparza.
Danny C. Alonso
I am trying to publish a video with resources for Family History for all Spanish Surnames. The Video will focus on Zambrano but it will give the charters and Family history of most Surnames or give you great resources.
Spanish surnames in this work are:
Mendoza, Haro, Lopes, Ximenes, Vela, etc.
http://www.spanishfamilyhistory.myevent.com/
The guy that will make the video will charge me 500 USD the web page ask for 600 because the web page charges fees. This is no scam anyone who pre-orders video will be listed in the charter within the book as part of the credits as listed on the web page. Thanks
I Hope all of you are doing well. I need members assistance with my MEDINA line.
I have reached a dead-end on any further back that JUAN JOSE MEDINA and YSIDRA LUNA. Both born around 1800 and the last family was known to be in Juchipila, Zac.
Their son was MARCELINO MEDINA married to FRANCISCA GARCIA. Anyone who share that line or have run across them please let me know by posting what ever info you have.
It would be deeply appreciated
Yvonne Medina
This is difficult for me to read, especially the names. Can anyone help me? Thank you.
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Subject: Somos Primos May 2016
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2016/spmay16/spmay16.htm
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May 2016 notification letter:
Dear Friends and Family:
With so much emotion attached to this presidential election year, it was with the mission of unity and peace that a National Prayer meeting was held in Washington, D.C..
The front page photo of the May issue of Somos Primos is of a National Prayer meeting, organized by Lewis and Rachel Hogan who founded United Cry in 2014. Their goal,“a national movement of pastors and Christian leaders dedicated to reclaiming America’s future.”
The day started out rain-drenched and freezing cold on Saturday April 9th, but thousands gathered with pastors and Christian leaders at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. to pray for our nation in a “solemn assembly” of unity. Attendees included many ethnicities, including African-American, Caucasian, Asian, Native American and Hispanic, with prayers in both English and Spanish. [US section]
In addition to reclaiming the future for our children and grandchildren, Somos Primos wants to preserve the heroism and contributions of our grandparents. Wanda Garcia and I thank all those who contacted the Corpus Christi City officials concerning the ruinous condition of the Dr. Hector P. Garcia Clinic site. Your action certainly helped. A fine was placed against those responsible for allowing the building to fall into such disarray. Well known columnist Joe Lopez is recommending further action which can and should be taken in support of identifying the Garcia Clinic site as an important Historic Civil Rights site.
[Texas section]
Maybe it is because of the growing ferocity of the Islamic attacks on Israel, why I continue to receive many articles on the history of Israel, revealing the unusual personal and unexpected historic events in which Jewish lives have been saved. Many times their rescues came by the heroic efforts of one or a small group of individuals. Over and over it appears that individuals are moved to fulfill the biblical prophesies that Israel will always exist. [5 articles in the Sephardic section].
At the April 9th National Prayer meeting, Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn said, “As long as God lives, there is hope, the light will overcome the darkness.” As we learn our history, and share our shared history with others, we bring forth light and understanding.
God bless America, Mimi
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UNITED STATES
Christians Occupy Washington in "Sacred Assembly"
Free course on the U.S. Constitution being offered online by Hillsdale College We the People of the U.S.A.
Children of GIANT Panel Discussion held at April 5th at the University of Texas, San Marcos May 6-7: Bexar County Tricentennial Symposium, “Spain's Encounter with the New World Many Truths Constitute the Past: The Legacy of the U.S.-Mexican War The Truth about the University of Texas Massacre by Dan Arellano Professor Rudy Acuña Receives John Hope Franklin Award Ruben Alvarez Washington DC Bound!
61 million immigrants and their American-born young children now live in the United States.
Inadmissible Aliens, 1952 Law
News of a minimum wage hike deal in California is met with relief -- and anxious arithmetic Low Apprehensions of Mexican Immigrants by Ana Gonzalez-Barrera How Mexican immigrants ended 'separate but equal' in California by Philippa Strum Lorenzo A. Ramirez Statue and the Mendez Case TAMACC is proud to announce the 2016 Women of Distinction!
Ideology/ Practice of Empire: U.S./ Mexico, Education of Mexican Immigrants by Gilbert G. Gonzalez
HERITAGE PROJECTS
SPAR, the Spanish Presence in Americas Roots California The Forgotten Spanish Treasure by Robin Collins Sister Maria de Ágreda, the Lady in Blue and the founding of the Texas Missions by Joe Lopez
Film: Texas Before the ÁlamoHISTORIC TIDBITS Sobre la leyenda negra anti-española Las Inquisiciones Catolica y Protestantes, Examen Comparativo On This Day
Lopez: Gregorio Cortez, the "one-man" gang
HISPANIC LEADERS
Dreamers Celebrated Marco Antonio Firebaugh's 10th Anniversary of his Passing Ralph Romero and the Thermal Boxing Club Medal of Honor Recipient, Santiago Erevia passed away March 22, 2016 Officer Ramiro Martinez: The 50th Anniversary of the UT Tower Massacre Memorial in Honor of Dr. Hubert J. Miller Jean Carter Young Fish, Historian
Katy and Deedra,
I want to thank you both. Deedra for posting a while back about an Ordenes
document that she found, which led me to find one of my lines which I long
suspected was a descendant of Francisco Suarez de Ybarra. The baptismal
record was missing and I would've never found it except for this document.
Thank you for posting about it Deedra. Katy and Claudia's work with the
Guadalajara Dispensas have been an invaluable work for me and many others.
I had been wanting to thank you both for some time, but this post was a
good reminder that it was long overdue.
By the way, I made a presentation to the Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society
and cited both Katy and Claudia's Dispensa Indexes. The PowerPoint is
available on our website at: http://www.nuevagalicia.org in the Research
Links & Resources page. Thank you both and keep up the good work!
Maria Cortez
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> Katy, I, and I'm sure many others, have benefitted enormously from your
> efforts to index the Dispensas, Capallanas, and Ordenes. Daily I check to
> see
> if you've made any new posts and it feels like Christmas when you have.
> I've
> been able to find entries that have helped my research from nearly each
> posting. I understand that school and "life" are priorities, but I also
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> to tell you how much I appreciate your work. Thank you, Deedra Corona
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Hola a todos:
Sigo comprobando y checando mis líneas y me encuentro con esta, cuyo linaje de los Monroy Pizarro ya fue comentada en el foro de Beltrán de la Cueva y Tomasina de Velasco. El problema es que no sé bien como descinde de García de Monroy y Catalina Pizarro que tuvieron por hijo a Francisco de Monroy Pizarro casado con Doña Aldonza de Castro.
Mis antepasados de los que no he podido seguir la línea son Don Diego de Bejarano y Doña María Pizarro o Monroy que tuvieron por hija a Mariana bautizada en Sayula el 1 de Enero de 1671 y casada con Don Juan de Rivera. Ellos tuvieron a Sebastiana Gertrudis de Rivera y Bejarano casada con Jacinto de Villalvazo y Sánchez.
Espero alguien pueda darme la conexión, gracias de antemano.
Enrique Agraz
Dear Emilie,
A while back you wrote:
"Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jewish evidence in Los Altos
"Genetic evidence" and evidence you "have read" is like comparing apples and oranges. People used to adopt surnames as was convenient for various reasons especially to gain money and position.
My husband, who is descended from Altenos (the Albas, Cervantes, Ruis de Esparza, Rubalcabas, etc.) has no illusions about his ancestry either in Mexico or going back to Spain.
He just showed me this paragraph from one of his books about the admixture of cultures in Spain over the centuries: "Christian families with more pedigree than cash, or with a prudent respect for ability accepted them [Jews] in marriage. ..In this way the Spanish people, especially the upper classes, received a substantial infusion of Jewish blood. Ferdinand the Catholic and Torquemada the Inquisitor had Jews in their ancestry. Pope Paul IV, at war with Phillip II, called him and the Spanish 'worthless seed of the Jews and Moors'".
I know that the rest of Europe looked askance at Spaniards and Portuguese as not being Europeans. Wasn't there a dust-up about allowing them into the EU?
So, it seems to me that the Spaniards are as mongrel a race as mestizos are now considered, and they always were. Neither Spaniards in the Old World or the New World were "pure" anything.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA"
Your words were right on target as to one of your ancestors. The upperclass Cervantes have a line of descent from a very rich Jewish man who married his family into Families with more pedigree but much less cash than him. While looking to find the link between the Sanchez / Golluf and Isaac Ha Levi, who is said to be theire first cousin, I found that Isaac Ha Levi is your ancestor through your Cervantes line. This Isaac Ha Levi is from the house of David according to records.
Rick A. Ricci
The email I received from Nuestros Ranchos looks like the below.
How do I change this difficult to read format?
Thanks,
Ken Alva
Send Research mailing list submissions to research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nuestrosranchos.org/listinfo.cgi/research-nuestrosranchos… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org You can reach the person managing the list at research-owner@lists.nuestrosranchos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Research digest..." Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List DAILY DIGEST **************************************** Today's Topics: 1. How To Search By Record ID (Joseph Puentes) 2. Re: De LA Cerda (Danny Alonso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:25:48 -0400 From: "Joseph Puentes" To: Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How To Search By Record ID Message-ID: <016901d19f41$6b77f7d0$4267e770$@rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 1) Create an account on https://familysearch.org/ 2) Log in 3) Hover over Family Tree at the top left 4) go down to Person and select 5) click on the Down Arrow next to "person" and an ID box will be available for you to input the record ID 6) Click on the arrow Joseph ========================= Joseph PuentesClean@h2opodcast.com http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Research [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On > Behalf Of raynababette@cox.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 4:02 PM > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help reading this 1792 marriage record > > sarod77, I'm not familiar with how to search by record ID. As a matter > of fact, I don't even see a record ID on the records I'm looking at. > Thanks for your help! > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List > > To post, send email to: > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org > > To change your subscription, log on to: > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 06:33:03 -0700 From: Danny Alonso To: research@nuestrosranchos.org Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] De LA Cerda Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have lots of de la Cerdas in my ancestry. how far back have you gone? here's some of the de la Cerdas on the Wikitree. http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/L%C3%B3pez_de_la_Cerda-6 Danny C. Alonso On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:02 PM, wrote: > Hi, I am researching De La Cerda, from Sierra De Pinos, Zacatecas. Ursula > De > La Cerda Contreras. For some reason after 25 or more years of research I > just > in the past few days was able to greatly expand my Zacatecas, San > LuisPotosi > and Aguascalientes lines. > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List > > To post, send email to: > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org > > To change your subscription, log on to: > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List To post, send email to: research(at)nuestrosranchos.org To change your subscription, log on to: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org ------------------------------ End of Research Digest, Vol 123, Issue 17 *****************************************
On the marriage certificate for Nicolas de Robclaba y Juana Ruis de Luna, I can read all the information except the name of Juana's mother. It looks like Ma - but then I can't make out the next word. Any ideas are appreciated. It's the certificate in the upper left.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XXC3-88K?mode=g&i=143&wc=M…
And is anyone familiar with either of these families? I can't find an earlier certificate for Nicolas and Maria Dias, so I don't know who his parents are.
Thank you.
Does anyone nave information on this Hacienda or know of any books on subject?
Looking for information on Cubillos, De LA O, Mares, Briones surnames.
Hello everyone. My name is Xochitl Cruz Gomez. My fathers family (Cruz) comes from Teocaltiche Jalisco and my mothers family (Gomez) is from Nochistlan, Zacatecas. I am very excited to join this group and look forward to learning, helping and contributing to this wonderful site. I am an open book with any information I have.
I have been doing extensive research for a little while now (3 months). Every free moment I get, I am researching every site I can find. I have discovered exciting facts which I share with my family. It makes me happy when I can find one more generation. I'm sure you all know the feeling. I have been able to trace some family back to 1700 - "Espanoles nacidos in Nochistlan" which is super exciting.
I have hit a brick wall, I hope you all can help with. My 3rd Great Grandfather Narciso Arellano is from Teul de Gonzales, Nochistlan. Narciso Arellano was born abt 1826. He married Juana Villareal who was born abt. 1835. They were married about 1853 In Teul de Gonzales and had a son named Refugio Arellano in 1854 in Teul de Gonzales. I can not find any further information on Narciso Arellano (1826) or Juana Villareal (1835). Any help you can give me would be very appreciated.
Again, I am excited to read the forums and hopefully provide some information to others here.
Somos primos,
Xochitl
Buscando una dispensa de uno de mis antepasados me topé con esto.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18686-69135-84?cc=1874591&wc…
¿Alguien que sepa frances?
Parece ser un soldado y estar en México durante la segunda intervención francesa y se casa con una mexicana.
sorry i haven't been updating it that often. there are three reasons for that: 1. i've been busier with college 2.i've been getting addicted(for a lack of a better word) to some fb games 3.i've been feeling less motivated to do them since i haven't been able to find new records there relevant to my family tree
but i haven't given up on them yet, but i'll probably continue to be inactive in regards of indexing this collection.
if you are interested in volunteering, feel free to message me.
Hello Everyone,
Please review attached Ancestor report and let me know if we have any connections or information that could help me fill in the gaps. Thank you!
-Erika
A lady in one of my other genealogy groups asked if there is a way to trace one's family back to the Aztecs. Any and all information will be appreciated.
Thanks, Gloria
Hallo everybody:
As I have understand in Wikipedia in spanish, The Caxcans were one of the 7 Aztlan tribes, so they were related with Aztecs.
The spanish version is very complete, take a look :
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caxcán
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caxcan in english.
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> El 19.04.2016, a las 00:07, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org escribió:
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I'm hoping to find information on a Adolfo Martinez B. who was (a judge?) in charge of documenting entries for civil records during 1916 records I found. He was probably the scribe for many years, however, I have not researched how many years he was there. He is father to a Martinez line on my family tree. The Martinez families were merchants and probably well known community Dons.
In some entries there is mention of Hacienda El Carro where the Martinez family lived, not sure what years these were. I looked for information on this Hacienda but did not find specific history of the people living there. I'm looking for information about the people who worked there such as the ranch foremen, servants and so on. Some Martinez folks are identified as mixed.
I'm hoping to find information on a Adolfo Martinez B. who was (a judge?) in charge of documenting entries for civil records during 1916 records I found. He was probably the scribe for many years, however, I have not researched how many years he was there. He is father to a Martinez line on my family tree. The Martinez families were merchants and probably well known community Dons.
In some entries there is mention of Hacienda El Carro where the Martinez family lived, not sure what years these were. I looked for information on this Hacienda but did not find specific history of the people living there. I'm looking for information about the people who worked there such as the ranch foremen, servants and so on. Some Martinez folks are identified as mixed.
I'm hope you can help me. This is a continuation to a previous post. I'm trying to find Rosario Arellano parents. Any insight you can provide would be appreciated.
Rosario Arellano (abt. 1805) was married to Norveta Flores and/or/aka Catalina Flores about 1825 since their son Narciso Arellano's birth is in 1826. I suspect Rosario Arellano was born bat 1805 in Teul de Mohuay, Zacatecas because that is where his son Narciso married his wife Juliana and where Narciso's children were born. I understand families tend to stay in the same pueblos.
Rosario Arellano (my 4x great grandfather) and Catalina Flores's son Refugio Arellano, (my 3 times great grandfather) died in 3/23/1908 in Tequila, Jalisco, Mexico. Narciso Arellano's death certificate indicates hilo legitimo de Rosalio Arellano y Catalina Flores however other grandchildren have Norveta Flores as Paternal Grandmother
I have searched through Ancestry, Family Search, I have reviewed the geneology charts posted here on Nuestrosranchos and have not been able to get past Rosalio Arellano.
This is where those missing Mexico church records are crucial because I feel I then need to make a judgment call on what I find that closely matches my situation. I have a hard time doing that. But perhaps with your insight we can make a more accurate lineage. Any help is much appreciated.
Rosalio Arellano
M5JY-BM9
Narciso Arellano
KZSJ-ZJ8
Gracias
Xochitl