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Hola !! quisiera ir de visita a Arandas Jalisco pero quiero ver si puedo platicar con alguien que conozca y haya vivido ahi toda su vida asi como sus antepasados a ver si de casualidad coincide con alguien de mis familiares o sepa alguien que pueda saber!! Pues quisiera saber de esa parte de mi familia !!!La parte de mi familia de Arandas son Sevilla Torres, Sevilla Perez, Torres Gonzalez,Sevilla Sevilla, Perez Chavez y asi muchos mas!!
Espero alguien me pueda ayudar!!!!!
Gracias lindo dia!!

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-63397-39?cc=1874591&wc…

i'm going to read it to see what other geneaological info i can get from this.

-----Original Message-----
From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:56 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos June 2015

Please copy and paste:
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2015/spjun15/spjun15.htm

Dear Primos, Family and Friends:

At the same time that I can report, wonderful, uplifting projects for Hispanic/Latino heritage and history, there are other happenings that indicate our history is still being submerged, discredited, and erased.

Concerning Father Serra, I researched more fully the history of the National Hall of Statuary. I came away even more puzzled why a Latino California Senator would take the lead to remove Father Junipero Serra from visibility in Washington, D.C. The article is the first under United States. Surely it will stir your curiosity.

I also stumbled across a short article written by the National Constitution Center, wonderful title, but questionable reliability.

This is who they say they are:
"The National Constitution Center is the first and only institution in America established by Congress to “disseminate information about the United States Constitution on a non-partisan basis in order to increase the awareness and understanding of the Constitution among the American people.”

Yet the article is a classic slanted piece, in which within the article it contradicts itself. First article under East Coast: "10 European colonies in America that failed before Jamestown."

These two cases are worrisome in the fact that they are within the framework of our government.

Another piece that I don't want you to miss is on Black Serving colleges and universities; primarily because many are opening their doors to non-Blacks and offering full scholarships. It is the last article under Education.

If you live or are a native Californian, please don't miss the article about observing November 13, 1849 as California's birthday, prior to US statehood.

Have a wonderful summer and be sure to write your adventures and share with your grandchildren.

God bless America, Mimi

In 1606, one of my ancestors (Joan de Angon) traveled from Brihuelas, Spain to Mexico on the Pasajeros de Indias list.

In the PARS website:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

Enter the reference number in search: CONTRATACION,5295,N.10

Can someone please read the document for me and tell me if there is a name of a ship he traveled on? That is what I want. Usually in the Pasajero De Indias ship it often mentions the name of the navio they travel on.

If you can please read the document for me to look for the name of the ship? So then I can try to find what that ship looks like and who was the Captain of the ship.

Saludos de nuevo mi Srs:

A cuanto esta linea mia tengo mi sexto bisabuelo
via mi linea paterna, Pedro Leonel Gomez de Cervantes
tambien Leonel de Cervantes hijo de Pedro Antonio
Leonel Gomez de Cervantes y Ana Gertrudis Velez de la
Torre dichos casaron el 25 de mayo de 1759 en Tepatitlan,
tengo el registro en mis archivos familiares, da interes
ya que estas familias eran vinculados con la ciudad de Mexico.

Pedro Antonio era hijo de Cristobal Leonel Gomez de Cervantes
nacido hacia 1676 en Guadalajara o la ciudad de Mexico y Francisca
de Lomelin, estos casaron el 23 de octubre de 1709 Tepatitlan,
segun familysearch pero no he podido localizar el registro en los
registros parroquiales de Tepatitlan de dicho epoca, me pregunto
si quizas la fecha fue escrita mal por el extractor. Ana Gertrudis
era hija de Bartolome Velez de la Torre y Juana Manuela de Plasencia
quienes pues la partida dice que era originaria de Guadalajara pero
esta familia radicaron a Cuquio donde bautizaron por lo menos cuatro hijos
entre 1718-1726.

Me pregunto dos cosas. Es obvio que estos Leonel Gomez de Cervantes
viene del comendador Leonel de Cervantes muchas familias importantes
pueden remotar al dicho conquistador. Como es la conexcion de este
Cristobal Leonel Gomez de Cervantes quien debia nacer hacia 1675 basado
en la cronologia y el vinculo con el condado de Santiago de Calimaya,
los Gomez de Cervantes poseyeron el titulo cuando los ultimos miembros de
los Altamirano de Velasco falleceron los heredaron a los fines del siglo
XVIII.

I have seen some in Jalpa but where else thanks

Here are some old maps of Ciudad Zacatecas por Bernardo De Portugal about year 1723:

http://jcb.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/detail/JCBMAPS~1~1~3050~101423?…

Hello, everyone. I'm researching the Mena family. Our family comes from Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco. Specifically, I'm mainly interested in finding the ancestry of my bisabuelo Jose Jesus Mena, born in Lagos de Moreno in June 25, 1897. His mother was named Melquiades Gonzales born around 1872.
The major problem I am having is that he was illegitimate. The civil registration record of his birth does not list his father's full name or his paternal grandparents. The birth record indicates that his birth name was Jesus Gonzales, but all records following immigration to the United States in 1916 use his father's last name - Mena. In his naturalization papers, he says that his father's name was Manuel Mena.
I've looked up several Manuel Mena's who were born in Lagos de Moreno or la Union de San Antonio around the same time as his mother. There are a few possible contenders, but I don't know how to move ahead.
One possible clue is that Jose Jesus Mena was remarkably tall (around 6'2") and had very fine Spanish features. I've wondered if I could research photos of Mena families if I could make a probable guess.
Has anyone else had any luck researching illegitimate children or have any advice?
Thank you for your help in advance.

Email Angel directly for the attachment:

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 1:07 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Suebi Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup I)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on Anthropological Genetic
Genealogy: The Suebi Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup I). If
you would like to learn more about the mark this ancient civilization made
on the Iberian Peninsula then this presentation is for you. There will be a
presentation on the subject on October 25 at 3:30 PM, through the University
of New Mexico Continuing Education program.

Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:

http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati…
t_class_id=57689&int_category_id=0&int_sub_category_id=0

Best Regards,

Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

P.S. For more information open the attachment.

Hello everyone,
I'm from municipio de Tepetongo, a ranch named "Juanchorrey" I wish to know how or where I can verify the origin of a ranch and if there were registrations once the ranch was officially declared. I once found a dictionary that had municipality names and it was down as "Juancho Rey" elders say it came from three brother Juan-francisco (chon)=rey others say there was a cattle herder names Juan who was called Juan el chorreado, none of which can be confirmed.

Hope someone can help
Thank you very much
Leticia Salazar

I've been trying to read the record for the marriage of Simon Montano and Maria Nicolasa Sanchez but the handwriting is very difficult to read. Does it give their parents names or where they are from? Could someone please help me with this. Thanks. Anita Rodriguez

Here is the link. It's found on the right hand page towards the top.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18575-48858-98?cc=1874591&wc…

Message from mexicanfhr walkerjona@...

Hello all,

Have any of you ever done research in the actual Parish in Mexico?

I am asking, because in about 3 weeks, I will be going to Mexico. And
if possible I will try find some information at the parish and
cemetary level.

So could anyone give me some pointers, on what to expect? Or the best
way to approach the subject?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Someone has posted an Aguascalientes online archive which is this:

http://sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx/axweb/

to get in username: sigue.publica
password: publica

I have been using it to look through:

"lugar"
"tipo documental"
"fondo"

What I would like to know is how to use the other search fields such as:

"Escritura"

I will provide a free 25-marker FamilyTreeDNA kit to anyone that can document a continuous straight male line back to Vicente Carlos Cervantes or his father.

Vicente Carlos Cervantes,
b: abt 1735, probably in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas
m: 31 Aug 1756
d: unknown but after 1761

Spouse: Maria Phelipa de Herrera, b: Feb 1737

Male offspring: 2
1. Diego Josseph Maria, b: 15Nov1762
2. Diego Carlos, b: abt 1778-80?

TERMS: Subject to my agreement, and recipient must be willing to post results in FTDNA Cervantes group:

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/cervantes/

Please contact me directly at rvr_jr@msn.com

Thank you,
Roy Rodriguez

buenas tardes
alguien me podría ayudar como puedo buscar el testamento
de juan de montañes con fecha 26 de sept 1648?

en el se mencionan a su esposa sebastiana diaz y los padres y abuelos de sebastiana diaz

yo desciendo de pedro Alonso de los inojos y ana dominguez

espero y me puedan ayudar se los agradecería mucho

saludos

I found a sketch of ciudad zacatecas year 1884:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/3088nrp.jpg

and also a sketch of the governor of zacatecas same year:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2vvkvlt.jpg

I found many sketches in the old newspapers called:

"La Patria Ilustrada"
"El Album De La Mujer"

I looked them up in this website that has a number of old newspaper such as "La Gaceta" that goes as far back as 1722:

http://www.hndm.unam.mx/

My great grandfather Bernardo del Real (Herrera) was born in Cuisco, Jal.
I can not locate this town on any map. Was it integrated into Colotlan?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18450-8782-60?cc=1874591&wc=…

Hello Everyone!

I have become confused so anyone that can help me I would appreciate it! I had the parents for Toribio Hernandez de Arellano 1530(spouse: Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza) as Juan Hernandez de Hijar and Isabel Ramirez de Arellano but as I recheck all my info trying to put it together I find that he is also listed with Diego Ramirez and Ines de Brienes as his parents. Which is correct?

Sofia

Hola a Todos!

Estoy confudida, si algien me puede ayudar lo agradeseria mucho. Yo tenia los padres de Toribio Hernandez de Arellano 1530(su mujer: Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza) como Juan Hernandez de Hijar y Isabel Ramirez de Arellano pero cuando miro para confirmar mi información encuentro que tambien ponen Diego Ramirez y Ines de Brienes como sus papas. ¿Cual es corecto?

Sofia

I am curious about what was Real De Asientos for in Aguascalientes and if there were those places in other towns of Mexico?

Also what is a Mercader?

I was going through the archives of Aguascalientes:

http://sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx/axweb/

to get in username: sigue.publica
password: publica

Then I went to "Tipo Documental" and a long list came up and was looking at some. I looked at "compraventa esclavos" and it had a list of people that bought slaves, gives names, and the slaves they bought.

I was browsing through the names and saw that in 1724, "Melchor De Richarte Mercader, Fernando De La Campa y Coz Coronel De La Infantria Espanola" :

http://oi57.tinypic.com/hu0voh.jpg
http://oi61.tinypic.com/34f0go5.jpg

Here are the documents which is three pages:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lm3tdu.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2059zch.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/29aw9jt.jpg

It is document (hoja): 1F-2F

Someone had posted in the past this website of Aguascalientes where you can look at archive online. He had given the login name and password to get in:

http://sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx/axweb/

I have been going through it. What else can you do? Can you search the name of a town or surname to narrow the search for lets say testamentos?

Does Jalisco or Zacatecas have an online archive like the above link?

I found a website where you can see ediciones of The Gazeta Newspaper 1785 of Mexico:

http://hemerotecadigital.bne.es/results.vm?q=parent%3A0004520440&s=0&la…

I found this link with nice pictures of old Haciendas. I had seen this one in tierras/escrituras microfilm. On the right side there is a list of other Haciendas you can look at:

https://lsgylasatrapoelsilencio.wordpress.com/acerca-de/25-hacienda-de-…

I read somewhere that in some census in the 20th century Mexicans were declared White for census purposes. It changed from decade to decade. On my birth certificate, my Mexican father is listed as white as is my Scots mother. On my oldest daughter, a nurse determined that I was Mexican and my Anglo husband was white. When I informed her my dad was listed as white on my birth certificate, she said I'd have to take it up with the state. I thought, "forget this crap!"

Emilie Garcia wrote:
>Ronnie,
>
>I looked in Ancestry.com's border crossings and didn't see anything for her parents. She was born in Texas. In the 1900 census the family is all listed as "white". I think in the 1910 census, the interpretation of "ot" might mean "other". I think they probably didn't look "Mexican" to the Anglo enumerator. They are listed as Mexican Spanish, since the Texans think of light skinned Mexicans as "Spanish" and not "Mexican". It looks like they came from Camargo, Chihuahua, and that Matilde had been married before to a Francisco Castillo, and she had a son named Blas Castillo, as well as a daughter Justina born 1897 and another son Juan born 1900 before she had Tranquilina and one other child in Texas from Pedro Vasuez who she married in 1896.
>
>Emilie
>Port Orchard, WA
>
>> From: chilerey@msn.com
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 15:25:59 -0700
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question- Race
>>
>> Hola Members, I have been playing with my wifes side of the family (with no luck) I found My wifes Grandmother -TRANQUILINA VASQUEZ- in the 1910 census located in El Paso ,Texas . They have Tranquilina at approxitemately 10 years of age . Any way I was tripping because they have her classified as a octoroon(1/8 th black). No big deal just trying to figure out how did the census figure this racial composition . In 1910 they didn't have any DNA testing and didn't know her family backround . I was just trying to figure this out how they did it. I also wanted to know how I access or where to go for immigration or border crossing info so I can obtain where Tranquilina Vasquez was born . (parents -I believe were Pedro Vasquez and Matilde Ceniceros -from Chihuahua)
>> Thanks
>> Ronnie
>>

Hola Members, I have been playing with my wifes side of the family (with no luck) I found My wifes Grandmother -TRANQUILINA VASQUEZ- in the 1910 census located in El Paso ,Texas . They have Tranquilina at approxitemately 10 years of age . Any way I was tripping because they have her classified as a octoroon(1/8 th black). No big deal just trying to figure out how did the census figure this racial composition . In 1910 they didn't have any DNA testing and didn't know her family backround . I was just trying to figure this out how they did it. I also wanted to know how I access or where to go for immigration or border crossing info so I can obtain where Tranquilina Vasquez was born . (parents -I believe were Pedro Vasquez and Matilde Ceniceros -from Chihuahua)
Thanks
Ronnie

example: Tronco
Nicolas Lozano
Jose santos Lozano 1. Timotea Lozano
Proquinta Lozano 2. Telisfora Reinaga
Maria Trinidad Alvarez 3. Lorenzo Galaviz
Jose Guadalupe Duran 4. Maria Galaviz

how do I read this I guess im confused in why certain names are on that list and others are not. example: Maria Trinidad Alvarez is Jose Guadalupe Duran mother why is his dad not on the list.