According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara, which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final destination for many spanish and portuguese immigrants. Along the same lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792, confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name, origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived in Aguascalientes.
I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the "Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife Catharina de Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with their 24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife died in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage, among them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza, born in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado died in 1797.
I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792 and would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original "padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".
Guillermo Figueroa Strecker
Hi everybody. We drifted away from the original question (below) before an
answer was provided. Please let me know if you have any information or know
how to get a copy of the Padrón de Población de Aguascalientes of 1792.
According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José
Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara,
which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
destination for many Spanish and Portuguese immigrants. Along the same
lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived
in Aguascalientes.
I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool
for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in
several families
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If you live close to MA or NJ or if they are willing to do an ILL here
is the info on the Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770
Bill is this the same book you own?
joseph
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Location Library Code
US,MA UNIV OF MASSACHUSETTS AMHERST AUM
US,NJ PRINCETON UNIV PUL
Title: Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
Author(s): Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; 1936-
Corp Author(s): Archivo Histórico del Estado de Aguascalientes.
Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
Aguascalientes,
Year: 2001
Description: 306 p. : ill. ; 22 cm.
Language: Spanish
SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: Church records and registers -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes.
Parishes -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes -- History -- Sources.
Geographic: Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- Population -- History --
Sources.
Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- History -- Sources.
Class Descriptors: LC: CD3678.A2
Responsibility:
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Joseph,
That is exactly the book I have ("Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes,
1770"). I also have a copy of the "padrón parroquial" of 1648. What I'm
looking for is the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" (notice that this
version is not "parroquial" or of religious nature). As far as I know, it
has NOT been published in book form. Also, it should be more complete than
the 1770 version, as it not only includes names and addresses, but place of
origin, age and occupation of persons living in Aguascalientes in 1792.
Best regards and Marry Christmas,
Bill
>> in Aguascalientes
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From: "Joseph Puentes"
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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:00 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes: Books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez,
José Antonio
> If you live close to MA or NJ or if they are willing to do an ILL here
> is the info on the Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770
>
> Bill is this the same book you own?
>
> joseph
>
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Bill you are probably already familiar with this info but have a look in
the files-->Books and Articles-->Census Records for Latin America by
Lyman Platt-->http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15262
for some info from Dr. Platt's book on Latin American Census records.
Look at the Aguas pages 1-4 in two parts for info on the 1792 census.
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
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Bill Figueroa wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> That is exactly the book I have ("Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes,
> 1770"). I also have a copy of the "padrón parroquial" of 1648. What I'm
> looking for is the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" (notice that this
> version is not "parroquial" or of religious nature). As far as I know, it
> has NOT been published in book form. Also, it should be more complete than
> the 1770 version, as it not only includes names and addresses, but place of
> origin, age and
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Joseph,
Thank you very much for the information. According to the "Census Records
for Latin America..." by Lyman D. Platt, the "Padrón de Aguascalientes de
1792" is at the Archivo General de la Nación in Mexico City. The microfilm
is listed at FamilySearch under Padrones de México, 1752-1865 México.
Dirección General de Estadística. Ramo de Padrones. FHL INTL Film No.
1520345 Vol. 4, 1800, 1792 Vol 5-6 and possibly Film 1520346 1792 Vol. 6-7,
1791 Vol. 8. I will order the first one from Salt Lake City when our local
FHC reopens next week.
Hope your Christmas was a happy and peaceful one. Again, thank you very
much for your assistance.
Bill
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From: "Joseph Puentes"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes: Books by Gutiérrez
Gutiérrez, José Antonio
> Bill you are probably already familiar with this info but have a look in
> the files-->Books and Articles-->Census Records for Latin America by
>
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Hi Bill!
I am going to take you up on your offer: ("I can reciprocate by looking up
information about your ancestors on my copies of the "padrón parroquial de
1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".) as posted in your e-mail
to our group today.......I hope you do not mind......I am trying to locate
ANY info on a couple of my ancestors with the surnames "LIENDO and DE LA
ROSA".....in the 1600-1725 time period or later. Would you mind looking in
these two books of yours to see if these surnames appear? Thanks so much!
Josie in San Antonio
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Figueroa
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:50 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] "Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja
According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
Aguascalientes durante la época
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Hi Josie,
I checked the "padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes" of 1648 but could not
find a single person with the surname LIENDO or DE LA ROSA. Aguascalientes
was established in 1575 and by 1648 it was only a small village with less
than 1,000 inhabitans. By July 30, 1770 its population had grown to 19,661
people (3,620 families). The padrón of 1770 is organized by groups or
families, including "haciendas, ranchos y puestos". People who lived in
town are listed by street where they lived. There is no alphabetical index.
I have not checked the padrón of 1770, but I can tell you that I have never
seen the surname Liendo in any documents in Aguascalientes (or anywhere
else). De la Rosa is not so uncommon. There were people with that surname
in Aguascalientes since the early 1700s.
I'll let you know what I find later during the week.
Bill
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From: "Josie T. Trevino"
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Hi Bill!
Thanks for the quick response! Yes, the surname LIENDO is indeed a rare one
and very difficult to find! I know for a fact that they were in Zacatecas
in the late 1600s and very early 1700s but have yet to locate them. I have
been able to trace it from about 1725 to the present time and am now
concentrating on tearing down that brick wall.........but have had no such
luck! :-) Any assistance you or anyone else out there can give me will
certainly be appreciated!
Josie in San Antonio
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Figueroa
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:47 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos]"Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja
Hi Josie,
I checked the "padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes" of 1648 but could not
find a single person with the surname LIENDO or DE LA ROSA.
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I read where Josie Trevino is looking for LIENDO and DE LA ROSA.
There are a few people living in Brownsville,TExas, with those last names, but dont't know if they are related to your family. There was a Juan Liendo. Josefa Liendo is the mother of Texas State Senator Eddie Lucio, and I understand they have done extensive research on their family, butdon't know if it is on the LIENDOS OR the
LUCIOS.
JUANITA G. DELGADO
Hi Bill!
Thanks for the quick response! Yes, the surname LIENDO is indeed a rare one
and very difficult to find! I know for a fact that they were in Zacatecas
in the late 1600s and very early 1700s but have yet to locate them. I have
been able to trace it from about 1725 to the present time and am now
concentrating on tearing down that brick wall.........but have had no such
luck! :-) Any assistance you or anyone else out there can give me will
certainly be appreciated!
Josie in San Antonio
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Hi Juanita!
Yes, there are some people in Brownsville and the area named LIENDO but I
have already researched all the "recent" Liendos.......I am now trying to
find the "really old ones" from the 1600s and early 1700s......:-) I met
with Senator Eddie Lucio's sister a few years ago and we compared our
research. Actually we all come from the same elusive 1700 ancestor......I
have been working on this one for years.....with no luck. Thanks for the
info......I appreciate your interest. I am also doing extensive research in
the Brownsville/Matamoros area.....are you from there? I have about 10
different lines from that area, mostly in the early to mid 1800s.
Thanks again!
Josie in San Antonio
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delgado
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:59 PM
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"Padrón de población de Aguascalientes", compiled in 1792 by F