Hi Alicia and Welester and Ranchos Group,
I was just in Monterrey,as part of the Chicago educators and Mexican Fine
Arts Museum delegation dedicating an exhibit to Monterrey's exhibit on our
African legacy. Please check this out Welester while the exhibit is still there
(right across the street from the state capitol building). It is beautiful
and very enlightening, particularly for those of us with limited information
of our African legacy in Mexico.
I have shared many of my resources with my district's curriculum director.
However, Joseph, I have two CD's about this (African legacy in Mexico), plus
an enormous amount of wonderful photos I took. Please let me know how I can
share with the group. The CD's have music and voice to them...I have some
beautiful photos of Santiago...I believe another member of the group mentioned
they have family from there. In addition, I was fortunate enough to speak
personally with Santiago's historian..anyone with questions, let me know.
Perhaps one of the nicest things I got to do was to interview an elder from
this side of the family in Monterrery- I learned some additional information
that would normally not be shared...additionally, I got a photo of my great
great aunt whose last name was Elizondo Elizondo - she was not only beautiful,
but I was amazed how much our gene pool skips first generation and resembles
2nd and 3rd generation. I was able to take a photo of the painting...
Also, I attended my mom's funeral shortly after I returned from Mexico.
There were originally 10 siblings, now there is only one. This is the reason
why I was unable to contact the group earlier. My mother and an aunt are the
last of the Luna/Herrera's 2nd generation that came from my grandparents
(Manuel Luna Herrera and Norberta Herrera Luna were the 1st generation) that were
born in the Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. I took pictures of the family during
this occasion, I can certainly forward them to the group as well. Perhaps one of
you might look one of us?
Alicia, you ask why there may be so much interest and formalized groups of
us researchers in the United States. I think the reasons vary - but I suspect
many of us still have one foot in Mexico (even if we were never there)
because of the stories we heard as young ones or because of the discrimination we
felt in this country. I also think that many people in Mexico "saben las
movidas", and don't necessarily rely on formalized groups to share information.
But like many of this group, I feel it is important to share, because we all
share a similar disenfranchised past. Connecting the dots makes us all feel
part of a family, and hence part of a larger group such as nuestros ranchos.
Happy New Year everyone. Hope your Christmas was filled with wonderful
memories and a shared family past.
Esperanza
Chicagoland area
I just went to phone you, but only have your home address. Please send me your phone number off line.
You were so supportive to me when I lost my three siblings, and the heartfelt letters that you sent. You are such a wonderful caring person. Abrazos y besos/Helyn
Latina1955@aol.com wrote:
Hi Alicia and Welester and Ranchos Group,
I was just in Monterrey,as part of the Chicago educators and Mexican Fine
Arts Museum delegation dedicating an exhibit to Monterrey's exhibit on our
African legacy. Please check this out Welester while the exhibit is still there
(right across the street from the state capitol building). It is beautiful
and very enlightening, particularly for those of us with limited information
of our African legacy in Mexico.
I have shared many of my resources with my district's curriculum director.
However, Joseph, I have two CD's about this (African legacy in Mexico), plus
an enormous amount of wonderful photos I took. Please let me know how I can
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Hi there Esperanza ,
How unfortunate that we we're not able to meet while you were here in Monterrey . I was in Villa de Santiago last week and met with the historian that you mentioned his name is Jose ( Pepe ) Lastra Cavazos , Director del Archivo Historico Municipal . Pepe has all his information in his head I've asked him to start to video record his thoughts . I passed on to him the Protocolos de Monterrey and he gave me copies of Garmendias books from Saltillo . While I was there Pepe gave me a brochure with the info on the exhibit and I do plan on going ,thanks for the reminder .
On second thought and with hind sight I have to agree with you on the fact that there are alot of great things here that are not available in the states . Like you mentioned to be able to take fotos of the places to meet some of the people and the overall feeling of what it might have been back in those days .
Have a Great New Year !
Welester
> From: Latina1955@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec
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Esperanza,
I am sorry to hear of your mother's passing away..........what a difficult thing to do at this time of the year although there is never a good time. (By the way, Esperanza is my mother's name and she has never liked her name).
Do you teach Mexican History? Thank you for bringing up this topic of our African ancestry, many want to talk about the Spanish heritage but not about the African heritage. I look forward to hearing or seeing it on Nuestros Ranchos. Do you give presentations in Chicago?
Feliz Año/Happy New Year to all, May our ancestors have something to smile about.
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif
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Hi Alicia and Welester and Ranchos Group,
I was just in Monterrey,as part of the Chicago educators and Mexican Fine
Arts Museum delegation dedicating an exhibit to Monterrey's
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I just wanted to address the statement below. I agree with the
sentiment of having one foot in Mexico, which I interpret as having
curiousity about our heritage and wanting to learn more about ourselves
even if we were "connected" to our heritage at some point. The few
days before Christmas I bought tamales de dulce and de puerco. On
Christmas Day, some of my grandchildren came to see me and I offered
them some tamales de dulce and hot Mexican chocolate. One of the
grandkids enjoyed the tamal and the other did not. But even so, as I
served them, I reminded them of the Mexican roots and family and spoke
of their heritage. I WANT these beautiful children to know where their
ancestors came from. ¡Feliz Año Nuevo y Prospero Año! from your prima,
Marge:)
>
> ****you ask why there may be so much interest and formalized groups of
> us researchers in the United States. I think the reasons vary - but I
> suspect
> many of us still have one foot in Mexico (even if we
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Marge,
Thank you for your kind words...it has been a bit stressful...but somehow I
find that I must put that smile on my face and carry on...for the sake of the
family...By the way, I hated my name when people substituted it to
"Hope"....then during the 70's, I officially started using the name I was born
with...made people pronounce it (smile)...and since the book published called
"Esperanza Rising"....people tell me I have a beautiful name. Ah, amazing what
timing can do to make even one's own name seem acceptable.
I wish I taught Mexican history formally. No, I teach US history and Social
Studies (World Cultures), which makes me more of a generalist of Mexican
history. A long time ago, I became interested in our African heritage (Mexico
officially recognize this heritage in 1995) and did extensive research using
books obtained from the Northwestern, where they have one of the most
comprehensive books about the African diaspora in the United States. Then
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Alice and Esperanza ,
The number of africans that came to Mexico are estimated at between 100,000 to 250,000 most of them came through Veracru ( they don't pronounce the z ) Here's a bit of trivia the president of Venazuela is a descendent of one of the africans that came to Mexico and his ancestors still live in a village in Veracru .
Welester
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:26:37 -0800> From: alliecar@pacbell.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Monterrey & African Legacy> > Esperanza,> > I am sorry to hear of your mother's passing away..........what a difficult thing to do at this time of the year although there is never a good time. (By the way, Esperanza is my mother's name and she has never liked her name).> > Do you teach Mexican History? Thank you for bringing up this topic of our African ancestry, many want to talk about the Spanish heritage but not about the African heritage. I look forward to hearing or seeing it on Nuestros Ranchos. Do you
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Hi there Esperanza ,
I like your name too , when I had a leather jacket manufacturing company in Los Angeles I used to put ads in the newspaper La Opinion under the name Roberto Esperanza ( Bob Hope ;-)
Anyway , you're right about the african contribution here in Mexico even in L.A. the 11 or 13 founding families I believe 6 or 7 were of mulato or negro heritage . In all of Mexico the blacks were used for labor and eventually alot of them became free, every once in awhile I see people here in Monterrey that have negroid features with blond hair green eyes and very white skin .
As for the rumor of the french in Villa de Santiago I've yet to prove it same goes for the austrians . The cronista from V de S Pepe Lastra says that it was unlikely because the soldiers never came in the direction of V de S . My ancestors thier are very french looking and I'm trying to see if there is anyway possible to confirm the french connection .
In the town of Allende all of the early settlers were
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Esperanza,
Please, please, please (tres veces please) record your presentation and
let's use it for the http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast project.
More material on this subject is needed and you don't need to be a Ph.D.
in "African Legacy" to make the point.
Please (numero cuatro),
joseph
ps: you said it was a joint presentation. Who is/are the other people
involved? Can I have your permission to contact them to see if they
would be willing to allow their part to be used for the
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast project?
===================
Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
Latina1955@aol.com wrote:
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> In March, I will be giving a joint presentation (Mexican Fine Arts Museum)
> to educators about our African legacy.
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Hi Welester,
The first mayor (kind of like a vice mayor) of Santiago and I had long
conversations regarding his heritage. Although he looks Mexican, his grandfather
was one of those French/Austrian soldiers. Apparently, his grandfather was
very young when he was sent to Mexico to fight. He was taken under the wing
of a Mexican family, and so when it was time to return, his grandfather was
hidden, and taken in by the same Mexican family, whereby later, he assumed this
family's name. I have no reason to dispute his story..
But it gives you yet another thing to think about regarding the actual
tracing of French descendents throughout Mexico...it might be very difficult to
prove it through family surnames.
You are right about the estimated numbers, and most of them coming through
Veracruz - another port of entry was Guerrero and Oaxaca....and as mentioned,
there was the underground railroad...further, many of the Africans were taken
into Mexico City - where
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Joseph,
Ay....me da verguenza.....while I do know a little of something, I don't
feel I am an authority, such as the Curriculum Director from the Mexican Fine
Arts Museum in Chicago. That is why I have asked her to accompany me to make the
joint presentation, using materials they developed for educators. Let me
ask her permission....and we can go from there....okay?
Contact me personally using my email....there may be yet another way to
share information without necessarily recording me...
Esperanza
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I've entered in the albums section a painting I did that relates loosely to this African legacy discussion. It can be seen here, http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15438 The explanation of the painting is in http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13941 Joseph very kindly added it for me. The explanation should be read first to understand the painting.
I felt also that because of the lighter skin the family has acquired through the years our Indeginous and Mulato ancestors would be forgotten if I didn't make an effort to preserve it. Besides, the females of my line worked very hard to keep me up nights until they were remembered, working under the guidence of the Muse's of my line and been exhausting and invigorating!
Linda in Everett
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Linda,
That is a wonderful story and you are a great painter. You had a wonderful concept there with the women and the she-wolf. (I can't believe you are a great-grandma). Makes me feel like getting out the old easel again too. My mother is descended from the Tewa-Manso-Piro (Pueblo tribes) of Paso del Norte/New Mexico, yet the covers of the booklets some of my cousins have put out only depict the Espanoles in their polished armor sitting on beautiful Arabian horses, ha! Just because every ancestor of my mother's is listed as espanol up to 1821 when they stopped identifying their race, and many of them were white and blue-eyed, many of us descendants only have to look in the mirror and see that after 1821 they must have started intermarrying with the Indios. I haven't any idea which tribes my father descends from in Zacatecas (his Indian ancestors were listed simply as Yndio), and I have no male Olagues related to my father to ask for their DNA. I haven't had a DNA test done on
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Emilie,
I have never thought that there was a conscious effort in destroying "actas"
for reasons related to destroying the African presence...I've always thought
about it as as a natural occurrence that would happen during a Revolutionary
War (form of destroying old political governments). Your suggestions gave
me reason to ponder that this might have occurred also during the War of
Independence. But if I were to venture to take a guess about the family stories
heard and stories of families in some pueblos who were French - but today, do
not hold those French last names, I would more venture to guess that it had
to do their presence not being very welcomed after Maximiliano's government
failed. People knew who they were - but these immigrants would not necessarily
boast their presence - perhaps they took Spanish surnames to further
integrate themselves....as did this man's grandfather from Santiago...Further, I
don't think their presence was that many---I
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Hi Emilie, we're snow birds and only live in Gold River, Vancouver Island 6 months a year. The other 6 months we're open to anything.. this year it's Everett again.
I don't know my Zacatecas Indio ancestors bands either. There were so many different groups that came with the Spaniards into Zacatecas to tame those dawg-gone Chichimicas.. Since Indio's come into my lines as mostly females, except my Garcia line in Jerez, I haven't had any luck but one day... I keep searching and with the help of this group most of us will get farther than we can alone.. Actually to be able to find Indio surnames is a challenge in itself! I don't plan on giving up just like you won't either...
Linda in Everett
Emilie Garcia wrote:
Linda,
That is a wonderful story and you are a great painter. You had a wonderful concept there with the women and the she-wolf. (I can't believe you are a great-grandma). Makes me feel like getting out the old easel again too. My mother is descended from
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I believe in the early colonial period, many of the spainards coming into Mexico came in from Cuba and other parts of the caribbean. In the Carribean, as the native populations died off they were were replaced by afican slaves. Some of the spainards coming in from the caribbean had trafficed in black slaves. Black slaves were considered more reliable than indian slaves. The spainards had a system were a slave could gain his freedom according to rules that had been set down. Many of the original settlers of Monterrey had had black slaves.
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>
> Emilie,
> I have never thought that there was a conscious effort in destroying "actas"
> for reasons related to destroying the African presence...I've always thought
> about it as as a natural occurrence that would happen during a Revolutionary
> War (form of destroying old political governments). Your suggestions gave
> me reason to ponder
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Hi Emilie,
You are right on all accounts regarding the slave trade, with the Caribbean
being the "point" place of exchange. Your last statement intrigued me
regarding the original settlers in Monterrey having black slaves...can you expound
on that?
Esperanza
In a message dated 12/30/2006 5:38:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
eaherold@att.net writes:
believe in the early colonial period, many of the spainards coming into
Mexico came in from Cuba and other parts of the caribbean. In the Carribean, as
the native populations died off they were were replaced by afican slaves.
Some of the spainards coming in from the caribbean had trafficed in black
slaves. Black slaves were considered more reliable than indian slaves. The
spainards had a system were a slave could gain his freedom according to rules that
had been set down. Many of the original settlers of Monterrey had had black
slaves
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Esperanza,
I think you meant to address your message to Esther. She's the one who e-mailed that account of black slaves in Monterrey. I know nothing of the coast there, only of Zacatecas and Jalisco.
Emilie
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From: Latina1955@aol.com
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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Monterrey & African Legacy
Hi Emilie,
You are right on all accounts regarding the slave trade, with the Caribbean
being the "point" place of exchange. Your last statement intrigued me
regarding the original settlers in Monterrey having black slaves...can you expound
on that?
Esperanza
In a message dated 12/30/2006 5:38:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
eaherold@att.net writes:
believe in the early colonial period, many of the spainards coming into
Mexico came in from Cuba and other parts of the caribbean. In the Carribean, as
the native populations died off they
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You're right about the indigenous population disappearing and being replaced. I've had several students from Cuba and the Dominican Republic and none of them have any knowledge of the indigineous people of their islands. My parents were very light skinned Mexicans and they always told me that discrimination there is not based on race or ethnicity, but on socio-economics. That's somewhat true, yet at the same time they were always telling me to play in the shade, don't get too tanned, or runaround sweating "como una india"! Owning up to prejudice and racism is very difficult. However, it's something we all have to admit to and learn to conquer. Alice BB
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To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:38:28 +0000
I believe in the early colonial period, many of the spainards coming into Mexico came in from Cuba and other parts of the caribbean. In the
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Alice...
Actually, my whole tone in my extensive research reflects exactly what you
stated. While many argue that it is socio-economic status that dictates
things throughout Latin America, it is no mistake that many of us who reflect
"color" are not enjoying the same socio-economic status of others...despite
similar educational backgrounds or excellent family names. See, my research of
long ago ended with this: as long as you resembled our "darker" past, then it
means that at one time the "whiter" society had you in servitude - and despite
any means to try to escape that legacy, your skin color and physical
features provides a subconscious (and conscious) rationale to continue to
discriminate...hence, one's socio-economic status never really elevates or has a chance
to elevate, as the "light skinned" counterparts. Our countries still suffer
from the "conquistador" syndrome.
Esperanza
Chicagoland area
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Hi there Esperanza ,
I have a few books on mariages from Villa de Santiago and they all have references on negro , mulatto , esclavo , collote and the protocolos de Monterrey also have the same references , there are quite a few .
Welester
> From: Latina1955@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:02:30 -0500> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Monterrey & African Legacy> > > Hi Emilie,> You are right on all accounts regarding the slave trade, with the Caribbean > being the "point" place of exchange. Your last statement intrigued me > regarding the original settlers in Monterrey having black slaves...can you expound > on that? > Esperanza > > In a message dated 12/30/2006 5:38:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, > eaherold@att.net writes:> > believe in the early colonial period, many of the spainards coming into > Mexico came in from Cuba and other parts of the caribbean. In the Carribean, as > the native populations died off they were were replaced by
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Esperansa you made me remember my own family situation. My mother was blond and blue eyes with very white skin.. I also found Mulato's in her maternal line in Zapotlan El Grande, Jalisco back to the 1650's. My father's family is from Jerez Zacatecas and for the most part much darker. My mothers family was poor as church mice and could not read or write.. my fathers family was established, owned their homes and could read and write.. My maternal grandmother was in horror when she found out my mother was marrying this dark skinned man. She almost disowned my mother. The only issue was skin color. It had been made such an issue in Mexico that she brought the feelings with her from Mexico to the states in 1922.. We do what we know. I can also remember when being told I didn't "look" Mexican was taken as a complement! Years later I started asking what does a Mexican look like, my own personal healing had begun. I also remember at age 17 being told by a perspective
employer to stay
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Just a general question indirectly related to the current conversation topic...
I'd recently had my DNA tested at familytreedna.com and my patrilineal DNA had markers traceable back to Northwestern China. Do all of us with Indio blood carry the same general DNA characteristics given the native Americans probable point of origin being Siberia/Northern Asia?
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From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:34:40
To:research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Monterrey & African Legacy
Hi Emilie, we're snow birds and only live in Gold River, Vancouver Island 6 months a year. The other 6 months we're open to anything.. this year it's Everett again.
I don't know my Zacatecas Indio ancestors bands either. There were so many different groups that came with the Spaniards into Zacatecas to tame those dawg-gone Chichimicas.. Since Indio's come into my lines as mostly females
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Tony, what haplogroup are you? My Uncle Louis Gutierrez is Haplogroup N and the thinking is that he's Native American since a sub-group Haplogroup N3 found in Seville Spain is thought to be from Moctezuma's retinue who were there, otherwise Haplogroup N is found in Siberia, Finland and Russia today.. I've noticed Indeginous males are usually HaplogroupQ or Q1.. and Indeginous woman are Haplogroups A, B, C or D.. My mtdna came back Haplogroup A. which would be Nahua in Mexico, Lakota, Zuni, Navajo and others in the states and Haida in Canada and Eleut in Alaska, first group A traceable to Siberia. Have you submitted your results to Gary Felix's dna site?
Linda in Everett
Tony Diaz wrote:
Just a general question indirectly related to the current conversation topic...
I'd recently had my DNA tested at familytreedna.com and my patrilineal DNA had markers traceable back to Northwestern China. Do all of us with Indio blood carry the same general DNA characteristics given the native
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Linda,
My haplogroup is Q3, which I understand to be limited only to Native American populations.
If anyone would like to compare their 12-marker Y-DNA profile to mine, I would be more than happy to share.
Tony
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From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 00:10:25
To:research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Monterrey & African Legacy
Tony, what haplogroup are you? My Uncle Louis Gutierrez is Haplogroup N and the thinking is that he's Native American since a sub-group Haplogroup N3 found in Seville Spain is thought to be from Moctezuma's retinue who were there, otherwise Haplogroup N is found in Siberia, Finland and Russia today.. I've noticed Indeginous males are usually HaplogroupQ or Q1.. and Indeginous woman are Haplogroups A, B, C or D.. My mtdna came back Haplogroup A. which would be Nahua in Mexico, Lakota, Zuni, Navajo and others in the states and Haida in
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Thank you for replying Tony, I'm still looking for that elusive Native American who's dna is Haplogroup N besides my Gutierrez line.
Linda in Everett
Tony Diaz wrote:
Linda,
My haplogroup is Q3, which I understand to be limited only to Native American populations.
If anyone would like to compare their 12-marker Y-DNA profile to mine, I would be more than happy to share.
Tony
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From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 00:10:25
To:research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Monterrey & African Legacy
Tony, what haplogroup are you? My Uncle Louis Gutierrez is Haplogroup N and the thinking is that he's Native American since a sub-group Haplogroup N3 found in Seville Spain is thought to be from Moctezuma's retinue who were there, otherwise Haplogroup N is found in Siberia, Finland and Russia today.. I've noticed Indeginous males are usually HaplogroupQ or Q1.. and
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In a message dated 12/31/2006 12:53:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mistyriver123@yahoo.com writes:
Esperanza: Please accept my heartfelt condolences on the loss of your
mother. May your heart always be filled with the wonderful memories, and love of
your mother.
I just went to phone you, but only have your home address. Please send me
your phone number off line.
You were so supportive to me when I lost my three siblings, and the
heartfelt letters that you sent. You are such a wonderful caring person. Abrazos y
besos/Helyn
Thank you Helyn for your kind words...they are truly appreciated. In
reality, I knew that her death was forthcoming - but I had no idea when...or how to
anticipate the eventual circumstances....she is at peace...a peace she never
really had during her life.
Thank you also for the accolades...you are much too generous...it is I who
have reason to be indebted to your kindness and generosity shown to me
throughout the years.
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In a message dated 12/31/2006 10:30:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,
hombrepi@hotmail.com writes:
Hi there Esperanza ,
I have a few books on mariages from Villa de Santiago and they all have
references on negro , mulatto , esclavo , collote and the protocolos de Monterrey
also have the same references , there are quite a few .
Welester
Very interesting Welester...as my conversations with some historians from
Nuevo Leon/Monterrey themselves were not aware of this shared past....indeed,
the reason, I believe, that Monterrey Museum embraced this exhibit was because
they felt a safe distance...hmmm,,,
Esperanza
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Now...Now...Esperanza let's not be shy!!
Joseph, Esperanza and I have been communicating, do believe prior to "Ranchos", and are certain we connect with our Herrera's and Lunas. Esperanza is a brilliant, and well accomplished woman in her own right...with many five stars...
Now...Esperanza...step up to the microphone...you can do it!!!
Your prima....Helyn
Latina1955@aol.com wrote:
Joseph,
Ay....me da verguenza.....while I do know a little of something, I don't
feel I am an authority, such as the Curriculum Director from the Mexican Fine
Arts Museum in Chicago. That is why I have asked her to accompany me to make the
joint presentation, using materials they developed for educators. Let me
ask her permission....and we can go from there....okay?
Contact me personally using my email....there may be yet another way to
share information without necessarily recording me...
Esperanza
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Esperanza and Welester,
Esperanza - you said "The tracing of African heritage was stopped after the Mexican Independence - no doubt due to the fact that Mexico's 2nd president, Vicente Guerrero was a mulatto". Do you think that is the reason that so many records were destroyed after the Independence and after the Revolution? I heard that Hitler had his army demolish every public building in his home town in Austria via weapons of mass destruction (rockets, etc), and that it wasn't just for target practice. He wanted to be sure any records that would bring up a hidden Jew in his lineage would be obliterated. I hear that in Canada there is a move by some public official to destroy/and or deny public access to all family records, and some say it has to do with questions of his heritage or illegitimacy of birth.
I also find your comments about the French and Africans in Mexico interesting, especially because my father, who was born in Jerez in 1903, was so prejudiced against blacks
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