Hello,

I am looking for a baptismal record for Maria Valentina Barrientos/varrientos Gonzales (1819). My search has brought some questions to mind.

- Why are the childrens last name sometimes the mothers and other times the fathers are they interchangeable with middle and last? Is there a reason/tradition behind it?

- Why are some last names de Barrientos for example of Gonzales y Barrientos?

- also some records specify espanol or casta but others do not specify in the title, is there a reason for this?

Finally, the Aguascalientes record I am looking for is El Sagrario, but 5 out of 7 of them are El Sagrario whats the difference, where do I look?

Thanks in advance for the help

Monica

Hola,

Estoy buscando una registro de bautismo de María Valentina Barrientos / varrientos Gonzales (1819). Mi búsqueda ha traído algunas preguntas a la mente.

- ¿Por qué los apellidos de algunos niños a veces lelevan de las madres y otras veces los padres, son intercambiables con segundo nombre y apellido? ¿Hay alguna razón / tradición detrás de esto?

- ¿Por qué algunos apellidos son de Barrientos, por ejemplo, o de González y Barrientos, o solamente Gonzales Barrientos?

- También algunos registros especifican Español o de Castas, pero otros no se especifica en el título, ¿hay alguna razón para esto?

Finalmente, en el registro de Aguascalientes estoy buscando es El Sagrario, pero 5 de 7 de ellos son El Sagrario cuál es la diferencia?

Gracias de antemano por la ayuda

Monica

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Dear Monica,

From early medieval times up to the Reformas Borbónicas (late XVIII century) the custom of surnames did not include a definite rule or order. A person could technically pick whichever surname he chose or deemed worthy of his/her benefit. This was based on persona preference. Often, woman took on maternal names, while men took their father’s; some examples include Alonso Guerra Valadés & Juan López de Elizalde who took on their mother’s names, but was not always the case.

Other times, children took on grandparent’s name for example if they were a namesake or they could choose a surname of an illustrious ancestor. This often occurred with the nobility, titled, untitled hijosdalgos and mayorazgos that often “forced” the possessor to carry down the name. Many times, within the same family this would occure. If Pedro Rodríguez de la Vera married Ana Gómez Pérez de Escalante and had seven children were born into this union. Four of the kids would use

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Daniel,

Thank you so much for the clarification. You couldn't have been more clear. I appreciate you taking the time to explain in such detail. I have learned so much from being in this group and I continue to do so everyday, with the help and patience of people like yourself.

I am very grateful for your offer of assistance as well, and will certainly take you up on it in the near future, as I have so much more research to do.

Thanks again so much!

Best regards,
Monica Ochoa