Help here wanted to know some of the people with surename Jauregui or Armas that lived in La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas in the year 1850-1900
Abram
I've been looking into your research topic a bit, and I've discovered that the family of Margarito Armas and Macedonia Jauregui is listed in the 1930 Census for La Jabonera.
What makes it hard to find, is that it is indexed, incorrectly, under the name "Margarito Arenas." Everywhere in the extract below where it says "Arenas" should actually be "Armas." I think the image is actually pretty easy to read, but it was clearly mis-read.
The is what the index has:
Name: Masedonia Jauregui
Head of Household: Margarito Arenas
Age: 40a
Residence: La Jabonera, Nochistlán, Zacatecas, Mexico
Estimated Birth Year: 1890
Birthplace: Zacatecas
Gender: Female
Sexo: Mujer
Civil Status: Married both Civilly and in the Church
Marital Status (Spanish): Casado por lo Civil y la Iglesia
Film Number: 1520536
Digital Folder Number: 4108037
Image Number: 00073
Page Number: 140
Line Number:
Household Gender Age
Margarito Arenas M 45a
Masedonia Jauregui F 40a
Maria Arenas F
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Abram Flores
You think so when i first looked into that record i was petty sure that wasn't right because his last name is armas not arenas and i saw there signature in the 1930 census
some of the names look like arenas and some didn't so im really confused right now.
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Abram Flores
Oh and my g grandfather wasn't shown in the census mauricio armas which was one of margarito's son.?
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Abram
According to one of your earlier postings, Mauricio was married in the 1914/17 period, which suggests that he had his own household by this time, thus he would not necessarily be ennumerated in this household. This is actually confirmed in the 1930 Census for La Jabonera which shows his family with Visenta Munoz, and your grandfather J. Candelario Armas as the youngest in the family.
I did a search in Family Search for 'Mauricio Armas' by simply typing in his name and a person indexed as 'Mauricio Armas-Jaureg' comes up in the social security death index. He died in 1987, and was born 22 Sep 1905, but it didn't say where he was born. On a hunch, I thought he could be your gr-grandfather, thinking the name was truncated in the SSDI, and looked in the Nochistlan civil birth records. He is there, and the record names parents, Margarito Armas/Macedonia Jauregui, and all four grandparents Felipe Armas/Leonarda Lozano and Encarnacion Jauregui/Francisca Gonzales.
The Nochistlan
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Abram Flores
Thank you so much george for all this info.Can you give me the link where you found the civil birth records please?
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Abram
You're welcome!
I had intended to put in the url ... here it is
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22264-28563-57?cc=1916240…
The record actually begins at the very bottom of the previous page.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
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Abram Flores Is it the one that say numero 734 and in the bottom says nochistlan on page 642?i can hardly read cursive writing sorry.
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Abram
It is #740.
The main part of the record is on the link I sent (beginning at the top left page). The record begins at the very bottom of the previous page.
The records are all run together; but they all begin "En la ciudad ..."
The handwriting can be a bit hard at first, but the more you work with the documents, the easier it gets.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
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Abram Flores
Do you know where i can find jose encarnacion jauregui birth record or anything where i can reach his parents?or fransisca gonzalez birth record?
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Hi Abram,
Based on the information that has been gathered thus far, I have a couple of finds. It looks like the two marriage dates, might have been one for the actual marriage and the second could be when they were veiled. I would suggest you look these up at www.familysearch.org under the Mexico Catholic Records Section for Zacatecas and Jalisco Catholic Records in order to advance. Other than that I belive your line has reached around 1825 over night. I find the period between 1850-present day, you really need to ask living members, find the information that you need. Once you reach pre-1850 you can usually find clues on familysearch. Always double check sources, something I am going back to make sure all is well. I wish you the best of luck in the exciting world of genealogy.
Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino
JOSE DOLORES JAUREGUI GONZALEZ
Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
12 NOV 1873
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco
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Sorry the last message was a bit weird. Here is the information in a more concise manner.
groom's name:
Felipe Armas
bride's name:
Leonarda Lozano
marriage date:
13 May 1879
marriage place:
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
indexing project (batch) number:
M60626-5
system origin:
Mexico-ODM
source film number:
226734
groom's name:
Jose Encarnacion Jauregui
bride's name:
Francisca Gonzalez
marriage date:
31 Oct 1882
marriage place:
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
indexing project (batch) number:
M60626-6
system origin:
Mexico-ODM
source film number:
226735
groom's name:
Jose Encarnacion Jauregui
bride's name:
Francisca Gonzalez
marriage date:
25 Jan 1883
marriage place:
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
indexing project (batch) number:
M60626-7
system origin:
Mexico-ODM
source film number:
226736
JOSE DOLORES JAUREGUI GONZALEZ
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
12 NOV 1873
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
Father:
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Margarito Armas and Macedonia Jauregui