I have found a major flaw in my tree. It seems I have fallen victim to the syndrome of "too many people with the same name." I somehow had combined Francisco Michel-Ordones (1), married to Michaela Lopez-Bueso, with Francisco Michel-Ordones (2), married to Manuela Lopez-Bueso and then to Lorenza Gertrudes Gonzales. My husband is a direct descendant of both of these men.
Francisco (1), was married to Michaela up to the time of his death in 1709:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-8269-65?cc=1874591&wc=…
I have 7 children listed for this couple: Maria (Directly descended), Dominga, Domingo, Juana, Ascencio, Ignacio, Regina. I haven't located a marriage for this couple nor can I verify their parents...although there are several possibilities. A strong possibility is that he is the brother of Thomas Michel-Ordones, father of Francisco (2).
Francisco (2), was born to Thomas Michel-Ordones and Augustina Escobar in 1694 in Autlan:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-19394-40?cc=1874591&wc…
was married to Manuela Lopez-Bueso until her death in 1742 in Sayula:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18571-57336-26?cc=1874591&wc…
I have 5 children listed for this couple: Maria de la Concepcion, Juan Matias, Thomas, Julio Feliciano, and Justa Maria.
Francisco (2) married in 1744 in Sayula:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18578-4484-49?cc=1874591&wc=…
This couple had at least 6 children: Maria Magdalena (directly descended), Bernardino Jose, Juan Marcelo, Agustin Maria, Josef Francisco, and Thomas.
I've spent hours sorting out these two people and their families, but now I can't seem to be left with a swirl of information. I would greatly appreciate if someone could provide a life-preserver...or at least a stick.
Thank you,
Deedra Corona
Hello everyone,
So much useful information was presented in these Michel posts that I have had to read and re-read them several times to process all the information. When I first posted on this subject I believed I was not a direct descendant of Francisco Michel Ordones. After researching all this information, it turns out I am a direct descendant after all!
Some of the information was hypothetical and I would like to discuss that. Sergio, you pointed out that you believe Francisco Michel who was married to Juana Betancur Ruiz, married a second time, possibly to Luisa de Gusman. While it's definitely possible he was married twice, why do you suspect that's the case? The baptism you provided for Antonio Michel (son of Juan Michel and Luisa de Gusman) is an interesting clue, even though the father's name is noted as Juan Michel. The problem is that the date of the baptism is 1679. If we accept Manny's data that Francisco Michel, son of Juan Michel and Graciana Corona, was born in 12
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Hi Deedra,
I am not a direct descendant of either Francisco Michel Ordones, but the Lopez Bueso line plays a major role in my genealogy. I too had pains trying to sort out these 2 couples, but maybe I can help slow the swirl.
Michaela Lopez Bueso was married to your Francisco Michel Ordones (1). She was the daughter of Nicolas Lopez Bueso and Nicolasa Guerrero de Ocon. She was born February 1661 in Sayula and died April 15, 1719 in Tecolotlan. Children are as follows:
1. Juana Michel Lopez Bueso married to Felix de Fonseca Feb 5, 1704 in Tecolotlan. Felix de Fonseca was the son of Juan de Fonseca and Juana Contreras.
2. Maria Michel Lopez Bueso born 1689 in Tuxcacuesco, married Pedro Ramirez Dec 14, 1711 in Tecolotlan. Pedro Ramirez born 1683 in Sayula was the son of Pedro Ramirez and Damiana de Castaneda.
3. Asencio Michel born 1692 in Tecolotlan.
4. Domingo Michel born 1693 in Tuxcacuesco.
5. Regina Michel born 1696 in Tecolotlan, married Pedro Nicolas Uribe May 9, 1728 in
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Hi Juan,
What is your source for Maria Augustina Vasquez's parents? I have been looking for that and haven't found it...
Thanks!
Sergio
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Everyone, last week was very productive with so much shared information on the Michels thank you all for sharing and rechecking this family information. Regarding the Preciado family's close connection to the Lopez Bueso's, curious to know Juan, if you have the parents of Maria Antonia Preciado the mother of Maria Augustin Vasquez. Would Maria Antonia Preciado be the sister of Juan Antonio Preciado or is she the grand-daughter of Nicolas Preciado? NEVER MIND - Finally saw you clarified she is Nicolas's daughter.
Also, on my tree I have Ygnacio/Ignacio Michel born in 1718 as the son of Manuela Lopez Bueso
from the following dispensation provided by Deedra.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-29495-12368-12?cc=1937239…
This dispensation covers the connected relationships that allowed the great-grandchild of Manuela to marry the grand-child from her brother Joseph Caytano: Juan Jose Michel with Maria Candalaria Cobian.
Much thanks eveyrone!
Gil
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Hello Gil and NR Friends,
Here is the Dispensa I used to make the connection to her parents.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31174-2563-38?cc=1937239&…
Also, I have a Testamento for Agustin Maria Michel, son of Francisco Michel and Lorensa Gertrudes Gonzales. This is the only document I have found that establishes him as their son.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-65972-5?cc=1874591&wc=…
Deedra Corona
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Hola a todos,
He estado algo ausente de la Genealogía estos meses pero ocasionalmente reviso este foro y me encontré la discusión sobre este tema que esta relacionado con mis antepasados Michel.
Me parece muy valiosa la información que han aportado hasta ahora, pero tengo una duda que espero alguien pueda resolverme...De acuerdo a los datos que tengo Juan Michel Ordoñez y Graciana Corona tuvieron por hijo a Francisco Michel Ordoñez que casó con Juana de Betancur y Ruiz y ellos son los padres de Juana, Nicolasa y Salvador. La duda es que a Tomás Michel esposo de Agustina de Vargas-Machuca y Escobar, lo tengo como hijo de Francisco Michel Ordoñez y Corona pero a su madre con el nombre de Luisa de Guzmán. Entonces Francisco casó en dos ocasiones? Tomás y los demás Michel son en realidad medios hermanos? Y de ser así sabemos algo sobre la familia de Luisa de Guzmán?
Gracias y saludos.
Enrique Agraz
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Hello Enrique Agraz, How wonderful of you to join the party!
It is possible, again, that there are too many people with the name of Thomas Michel...as well as Francisco Michel. Personally I have 5 Thomas Micheles in my tree, some may be people that I have been unable to hook up with their families.
There is a Thomas mentioned in this Dispensa who is listed as the brother of Nicolasa Michel:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-29495-12880-93?cc=1937239…
Therefore the son of Francisco Michel and Juana Betancur-Ruiz? Is this the same Tomas married to Agustina Vargas y Escobar and as you say Francisco may have been also married to Luisa de Guzman? as well as Agustina; or is this an entirely different Tomas? May we ask you your source? I personally don't have Luisa de Guzman in my tree and couldn't locate anything about her.
I also have Thomas Michel married to Juana Josefa Uribe, son of Francisco Michel Ordones and Manuela Lopez Bueso Betancur. I have
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Dear Deedra, Enrique, Gil and Juan,
Here are some more clues on the Michel family:
There were at least three distinct Francisco Michel :
To respect Deedra’s designation, Francisco (1) Michel, died 1709. Francisco (2) Michel was born 1694, and died after 1744. So the third Francisco actually came before the other two, so we will call him “0”. I just re-wrote to Alfredo Ignacio Peña, who kindly gave me the image of the 1609 baptism in Guadalajara. It was also Alfredo who told me that Francisco (0) was married twice to see if he had the marriage documents. He says he is about to publish a book on the Michel involvement in the Cristero wars that it will include the genealogy. But he also says he will send me the documents he has when he gets a chance. So, I will wait for more on that. So IF, and only if we can prove that Francisco (0) is the son of Juan Michel and Graciana (by finding those marriages, THEN, here is the image of the baptism of Francisco (0):
https://familysearch.org
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HI Sergio,
Thanks for all the info on the the three Francisco Michels and Thomas Michel. I too have all 4 of these Michels in my tree but cannot make the connection between them. Your reasoning makes total sense and hypothesis seems likely true.
You also asked about the source of Maria Augustina Vasquez's parents. The source is a marriage dispensation for Pedro Michel and Ana Maria Corona who married Feb 25, 1811 in Ejutla.
Their marriage record can be found here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18567-5274-10?cc=1874591&wc=…
And their dispensa can be found here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18426-92276-43?cc=1874591&wc…
Their dispensa contains two family trees. One shows the descendants of our Francisco Michel (2) who was married to Manuela Lopez Bueso. The second tree shows the descendants of Jose Vasquez. From these 2 trees you can make at least a couple of deductions. The first
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I have Michel way back in my lines and haven’t gotten around to researching them in depth, so this seems a good place to air out what I have.
Besides the few documents I’ve found, the only lead I have for this line is from a previous Nuestros Ranchos thread, which gives the origin: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19058
In my lines I have Micaela Michel Ordoñez aka Micaela Corona, baptized 29 Sep 1602 in Guadalajara; daughter of Juan Michel Ordoñez and Graciana Corona, her padrino was Gabriel Ordoñez (who I assume is her uncle). She married Juan Cortes Mudarra 3 Feb 1625 in Guadalajara; they moved to Charcas, SLP in summer of 1633; Micaela (Corona) was buried 26 May 1680, in Charcas, SLP.
I have her father, Juan Michel Ordoñez, as the son of Cristobal Ordoñez and Francisca Ruiz Farache - I am seeking documentation for this link. I don’t know who Graciana Corona’s parents are - would any of you have her pedigree?
In addition to Micaela, I have Juan Michel and Graciana Corona with
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Manny, you add some more great pieces to the family puzzle identifying information that could have been easily overlooked because of the variations on names but I am at a loss to answer the question. Using the baptism date for Juan Michel you provided I did want to provide his record for those like me who are catching up rather fast:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18621-66877-20?cc=1874591&wc…
Also I am unable to find the records for Manuel and Juan searching this book
from 1603 foward:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18621-67198-32?cc=1874591&wc…
Gil Topete
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Hello Gil,
Sorry, I should've provided those:
Juan Espinosa Rifarache, 13 May 1603
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18621-67073-36?cc=1874591&wc…
Manuel Espinosa Rifarache 15 May 1614
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18621-66702-38?cc=1874591&wc…
On the same image that has the marriage of Melchor Espinosa and Josepha de Torrequemada, the first entry on the left side is for Juan Pedro Cardenas and Ana Maria de Torquemada (the ceremony was performed by Juan de Torquemada); I wonder is there is any relation?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18621-67202-13?cc=1874591&wc…
I’ve found 5 children for Juan Pedro Cardona and Maria Torquemada, and there is no reference to “Rifarache.” I haven’t pulled the records, I’ll check to see who padrinos are.
Manny Diez Hermosillo
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jrefugioghermosillo
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Hola primos,
Here are the ordenes for Gabriel Ordoñez, son of Cristobal Ordoñez and Francisca Rifarache, Sep 1600, Guadalajara, Jalisco.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12044-35376-48?cc=1502404&…
The first testigo, whose name I haven’t deciphered yet, says his wife is a 1st-cousin of Francisca de Rifarache.
Francisca de Rifarache was already deceased, but Img18b has Cristobal Ordoñez as a testigo, and he gives Gabriel’s birthdate as 20 Sep 1579, in Autlan. Cristobal gives his own age as "sesenta" or "setenta" anos mas o menos. That places his birth year between 1530 & 1540, so it's likely an arbitrary number. Regardless, it’s primary source, it places him and Francisca Rifarache in Autlan on 20 Sep 1579, it places him alive and in Guadalajara in Sep 1600, and it has his signature.
Here are the ordenes for his grandson, Diego de Espinosa, son of Melchor Espinosa and Josepha Ordoñez aka Josepha de Rifarache y Torquemada:
https:/
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Hello Manny, can you double check that first link? I am popping up in Mexico, Aguascalientes 1733 -1772 and not in Guadalajara circa 1600.
Your 2nd link for Diego de Espinosa's baptism is correct (middle right side).
Now on to the Torquemada equation.
Thanks
Gil
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Hello Gil,
Oops, it was another archive I was looking at, when I posted. My bad. Try this, and if it doesn't work, it's on Guadalajara
Diócesis de Guadalajara Ordenes 1600-1699, img18b
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18377-22191-56?cc=1874591&wc…
Saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo
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Hi everyone,
I have Francisco Garcia de Alba y Ruiz marrying Casilda Ortega y Maldonado. Francisco's parents are Francisco Garcia de Alba and Isabel Ruiz Galindo. I am looking for my backup but unfortunately I think this may have been updated on my tree when I confirmed a match with someone else's tree.
Does anyone have information to clear this up?
Thanks,
Erika Rivera
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Dear Erika,
Your question has been hotly debated before, but there has not been (as far as I know) a clear answer on the parents of Francisco García de Alba, married to Casilda de Ortega y Maldonado. The closest evidence I’ve seen comes from a Dispensa written in 1699. It mentions an Isabel Ruiz (or possibly Ruiz de Betancor) (1). The Dispensa is for Isabel’s grandson, Antonio García de Alba (6) and Faustina de Betancur y Alarcón Tresalba (12). This dispensa was requested because Antonio (the groom) was the grandson of Isabel Ruiz, while Faustina (the bride) was the granddaughter of Isabel’s brother Nicolas de Betancor (2).
It gives the parents of Antonio (6) as Diego García de Alba (4) and María Gomez de Aguirre(5), while the parents of Faustina (12) were Francisco de Betancur y Alarcón (10) and Juana Sánchez (11). An important note, though, is that I have NOT seen Isabel’s last name anywhere in a primary document as “Ruiz Galindo.” If there is one I would be happy to see it
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Thank you, Sergio! I'm going to dig into these records this weekend. It would be great to solve this mystery.
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Hi Sergio,
Great job uncovering so much information on the Garcia the Alba and Betancur! I think I can add to your info and hopefully get a clearer picture on the subject.
That dispensa for Antonio Garcia de Alba and Faustina/Agustina Betancur provides a lot of clues. First, it's evident that Faustina uses the names Faustina and Augustina interchangeably in various records. In fact, the dispensa introduces her as "Fagustina" de Betancur y Alarcon. Second, the word "tresalba" after her name is not part of her name, but a casta designation. Literally tresalba translates to "a horse having 3 white feet". In the casta system a tresalbo is produced from an indio and a mestizo. So a tresalbo is 3 parts Indian and 1 part Spanish. (You can find all sorts of casta tables on the internet, here is a link to one http://diadelaetnia.homestead.com/mestizaje.html )
You'll note that the records for her children are either noted as "espanol" or "mestizo".
We know from the dispensa that Faustina was
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Hello All,
Back to the 1699 dispensa for Antonio Garcia de Alba and Faustina Betancur y Alarcon. To review some of Sergio's info:
1. Ysabel Ruiz de Betancur and Nicolas de Betancur were siblings.
2. Nicolas de Betancur was married to Ysabel Gomez. They had:
a. Francisco de Betancur Y Alarcon, married to Juana Sanchez and father of Faustina.
b. Ysabel Gomez de Betancur who married Joseph Brambila de Arriaga in Tecolotlan, 1688.
3. Ysabel Ruiz de Betancur married a Garcia de Alba (possibly Francisco). They had:
a. Diego Garcia de Alba, married to Maria Gomez de Aguirre, parents of Antonio Garcia.
b. Possibly Francisco Garcia de Alba, married to Casilda Ortega Maldonado.
Add to this another dispensa for Salvador Cobarrubias and Efigenia Garcia de Alba in 1752. In this dispensa Ysabel de Betancur was the sister of Juana de Betancur. Their mother was Ysabel Francisca Ruiz. Ysabel de Betancur was the mother of Francisco Garcia de Alba (married to Casilda Ortega
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Hello, Sergio, Enrique, Gil, Juan, and NR friends,
There has been a lot to absorb and compare. Firstly, I would like to concede that Gil was correct regarding the name of Maria de Navarette. When I studied it again what I had mistaken for Lucia is actually "Olios a."
For the children of Juana Betancur AKA Michel Ordones and Hernan Gonzales Corona I also have: Fernando Gonzales Corona married to Angela Caro-Renteria. In the marriage Juana is referred to as Juana Michel.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-13236-15?cc=1874591&wc…
In the baptism of his daughter, Juana, it mentions that Angela is widowed; meaning that Fernando died sometime during 1703.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-19692-27?cc=1874591&wc…
Not sure if it has been provided previously, but for Domingo Michel Ordones I have a baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-28421-25?cc=1874591&wc…
Sergio, please keep us informed regarding
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Sergio, amazing! Thanks for so many referenced documents. When I just began building out my tree on the Michels two years ago I cold-contacted Alfredo Ignacio Peña who guided me to prove my connection to the Perez de Alencastre family. He also provided me with a partial list of family names that went straight to Diego Martin who married Elvira Ordones the parents of Cristobal Ordonez (Just searching the last name Ordonez list indexes dating back to 1548).
At the time his computer with all his data had crashed and he was in pursuit of the hard copy family book with all the Michel info in it. I have since lost contact with Alfredo and I recall he was at a dead-end on Diego Martin's origins.
Now that said, on myheritage.com the family tree service I use, there is another member who may be a member here too and I asked her to join in on the conversation-- her tree has a Juana de Betancor Ruiz circa 1610 with a sister Isabel Betancor Ruiz married to Francisco Garsia de Alba, as the
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Gil Topete
So how does this record fit into the equation for Francisco Michel married to Joana de Vetancor? Their son Salvador is marrying into the lopez-Hueso family in 1688.
See bottom right-side record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-13486-33?cc=1874591&wc…
Godparents look to be Joa Michel and Maria/Magdalina de Cobarrubias.
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Gil Topete
Not sure if you picked over these bones already that provide more indirect clues...I am also related to Captain Juan de Fonseca and his other son married Juana Lopez Boeso, the daughter of Francisco Michel Ordonez and Micaela Lopez Boeso (see bottom right continued on next page:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-13491-42?cc=1874591&wc…
But also, based on the original post, Cristobal Ordonez had several son's one also named Francisco much earlier...I am surprised that with so many sons and daughters of Micaela and Francisco that none of their children's baptism records are not revealing better clues?
Thank you for your other links. Does your information substantiate my guess that Manuala Lopez-Bueso had a brother Joseph Cayetano Lopez Bueso? His name in one form or the other is listed as the godfather of two of Manuelas children: Barbara and Antonia Lugarda. Know that your information Provided Gaspar has Manuela's
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Hello Gil Topete,
Thank you for your input into this puzzle. Indeed Manuela and Josef Cayetano (married to Margarita Ramirez Habellano) were siblings based on this Dispensa:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-29495-11106-51?cc=1937239…
I hope this is helpful to you. We'll continue the search and hopefully, together, we can resolve this. And I thought I had it all under control!!
Thank you
Deedra Corona
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Hi Deedra,
It seems we get to help each other again. I don’t have all the info you need, but I can help make a couple things more certain.
As far as I can tell, I am not a descendant of Francisco Michel-Ordoñes (1), but I do descend from the Francisco Michel Ordoñes (2) you mention. I do not know Francisco (1)’s parents. There was a Francisco Michel Corona, born 1609 in Guadalajara, and he is probably related, but there must be an intermediate generation at least.
Here is what I do have:
For Francisco Michel- Ordoñes (1) and Micheala Lopez-Bueso Betancur (?-1719), I also have the following children:
Dominga (?-1744), Asencio (1692-1727), Regina (1696-?), Juana (?)
Then I know that Michaela died 15 Apr 1719 in Tecolotlan:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-6814-12?cc=1874591&wc=…
As far as Francisco Michel (2) and Manuela Lopez Buezo, you correctly point out his parents were Thomas Michel and Augustina de Escobar. I am not
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Hello Gil and Sergio, thank you for your help. Its always more fun to work as a team.
I have come to the belief, as yet unproven, that Francisco Michel Ordonez, married to Michaela, is the son of Francisco Michel and Juana Betancur Ruiz. This would make him the brother of Salvador, Nicolasa, and Thomas. It is very possible that Juan Michel, married to Magdalena Cobarrubias is their brother as well as this couple are padrinos in several weddings and baptisms within this family. However this remains speculation with no definitive proof...waiting for a miracle.
Sergio, I apologize for giving the wrong name for your ancestor Antonio Feliciano. I was probably looking at the next name, Justa Maria, and change Antonio to Julio in my mind. Also, that was a very good call regarding Agustina Vargas Escobar and the Vargas Machuca family. Here is the link for her baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18378-14449-7?cc=1874591&wc=…
Also
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Gil Topete
Hi Deedra does your research confirm if Juana is probably the niece of Isabel Betancor Ruiz who I have as being married to Francisco Garsia de Alba circa 1630 or is she possibly her sister?
Thanks
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Hello Gil,
You are way ahead of me. The oldest Garcia de Alba I have is Francisco married to Mariana Casilda Ortega Maldonado in Tecolotlan. I do have Juana Betancur Ruiz married to Francisco Ordones Corona, but no family for her. I also have Juana Michel Ordones Betancur (who I suspect is their daughter) married to Hernan Gonzales-Corona. I have Isabel Betancur Gomez married to Josef Brambila y Arrriaga in 1688 (Daughter of Nicolas Betancur and Isabel Gomez.
Deedra Corona
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Hi Deedra and Sergio, I found the following record for the baptism
of Maria Navarrete Corona in Autlan, June of 1641. While these names
are more discernible than those under Maria Ana's marriage, is this
another daughter? Seems unusual to get married 45 years later unless
Maria and Maria Ana are two different daughters.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-23053-11?cc=1874591&wc…
I think its clear that the names are of her parents are Luis de Navarrete and Luisa or Lucia Corona. Not Jesus de Navarrete as indexed on Maria Ana's record. Also I am
beginning to think Lucia/Luisa is closely related to Graciana Corona who was married to Juan Michel Ordonez II.
Your thoughts?
Gil Topete
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Deedra and Sergio, focus on the names of the de Navarrete and Corona's. I hit reply only after I suddenly realized Maria is the sister of Hernan de Navarrete Corona and not Maria Ana Vargas de Escobar.
Gil Topete
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Hi Gil,
I think your reading the the baptism for María de Navarrete
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18561-23053-11?cc=1874591&wc…
is correct that María de Navarrete is the sister of Fernando/Hernando de Navarrete Corona. The parents are Luis de Nabarrete (sic.) and Lucía/Luisa Corona
Cheers,
Sergio Salés
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Hello Gil,
Thank you for this link. I have gone through this book several times and missed this and the baptism below it for Agustina Josefa Gonzales Corona.
The writing is a bit difficult to understand, but we are talking about the same family: Jesus (Luis) Navarrete and Luisa Corona. However, in reading it I believe the daughter's name is "Luisa Maria"; even though it says "Maria" in the column. Obviously she is the older sister of Hernando Navarrete. You know some of those women got married in their early teens and continued having children into their 40's. I know a couple who had a son younger than their own great-grandson! Also interesting is the madrina: Marianna Aguayo who baptized her own daughter only a few days later.
As far as Jesus vs. Luis I think it is possible that he went by both. Some people use a Christian or Biblical name along with a given name. When my kids were baptized the priest added Jose and Maria before their names. Its also possible that the when
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Gil Topete
Sergio, I too descend from Antonio Feliciano through his son Antonio Jose Martin Michel.
What is uncanny, and perhaps evident to both of you is that both documents Sergfio has provided links to happen to have other Michel information on them.
The first page list the death of Nicolaza Michel in March, while page two lists the death of Michaela.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-6814-12?cc=1874591&wc=…
The following baptism record for Manuela from 1699 reveals the baptism record for Francisco Michel and Michaela Guerrero and their daughter Dominga...is this a coincidence? Or does everyone agree that Michaela Guerro is Michaela Lopez Bueso. If so Sergio, you have your baptism date for Dominga 1699 to 1744.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18721-58847-34?cc=1874591&wc…
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RJ Quiralta
Well they are definitely two different people, time frame says it all, in the first couple, does the kids records mention the full composed name on the parents? the burial just says Michel for him and Hueso for her. Either case I would say that both parties are likely families since the ones in Autlan were from Tecocolotlan too, meaning that the two Franciscos were like you suggested Uncle-Nephew and the wives were likely related too, (Aunt-Niece, Cousins, etc).
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Michel and Betancur