I have already posted some of my research on Juana Nunez de Sotomayors ancestry. I would like to add some of the information that I have discovered concerning her husband, Diego Ochoa Garibay y Solis.
1). Martin Uncella ( born in the 1300's) is the father of
1.1) Ivan (Juan) Martinez Uncella (born about 1385) escribano de la villa (There is a story about him being banished by the king of Castilla that I go into more detail in my book)
1.1.1). Martin Ibanez Uncella (born abt. 1430
Married to Juana Etxebarria (born abt 1435, daughter of Pedro Etxebarria, Señor del solar de Etxebarria. (Pedro is born on or before 1410 surname also later
spelled Echevarria.
They married and lived in Mondragon. Martin Ibanez Uncella and Juana Etxebarria are the parents of:
1.1.1.1.1). Reverend Juan de Mondragon (Catholic priest but not the Cardinal. The Cardinal is his nephew.)
1.1.1.1.2). Maria Martinez de Uncella. Married in Mondragon to Martin Fernandez de Mercado
1.1.1.1.3). Martin Martinez de Uncella ( el Viejo)
1.1.1.1.4). Teresa Ibanez de Uncella (born abt. 1465) married in Elorrio to Pedro Garcia de Esteibar ( born about 1465)
Teresa Ibanez de Uncella and her husband Pedro Gartzia de Esteibar are the parents of two daughters: Juana Ibanez de Esteibar and Marina Ibanez de Esteibar
1.1.1.1.4.1) Juana Ibanez de Esteibar (born abt. 1490) married to Juan Otxoa de Ybarlucea (born about 1490) (in Spanish:Juan Ochoa de Ibarlucea).
These two are the parents of 4 children that I know of :
1.1.1.1.4.1.1). Cardenal Juan de Mondragon, (named after his uncle). (Catholic)
1.1.1.1.4.1.2). Reverend Pedro de Mondragon (Catholic Priest)
1.1.1.1.4.1.3). Martin (Machin) Ochoa Ybarlucea (born in 1513) ( also known as Martin Ochoa Garibai) Ybarlucia and Garibay are both names used for being from Elorrio, one refers to the valley, while the other refers to the banks of the river where the fern grows.
Martin Ochoa Ibarlucea is married to Maria Suarez de Solis y Rodriguez, daughter of Juan Bueno de Solis and Catalina Rodriguez.
Martin Ochoa Ibarlucea also had a daughter, Magdalena Garibay, out of wedlock with an unknown Indian. Magdalena married Diego Lopez. It is unknown which sibling was born first so gave her the #1.1.1.1.4.1.3.2). As if she was born second to Diego.
Martin (Machim) Ochoa Garibay and Maria Suarez de Solis were the parents of:
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1). Diego Ochoa Garibay (born abt, 1531) married to Juana Nunez de Sotomayor
Diego Ochoa Garibay and Maria Solis are the parents of :
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1.1). Francisca Ochoa Garibay married to Juan De La Mora Mendoza.
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1.2.) Joseph Nunez de Sotomayor y Ochoa Garibay married to Gerónima de Calderón y Castañeda
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1.3.) Juan de Ochoa Garibay y Nunez de Sotomayor married to Cecilia Vázquez de Solís y Pérez de Sandoval
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1.4). Juan Bautista de Ochoa y Garibay married to Mencía de Castañeda y Calderón
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1.5). Diego de Ochoa Garibai y Nunez de Sotomayor married to Juana de Bejines y Romero
1.1.1.1.4.1.3.1.6) Miguel Ochoa Garibay married to Francisca Zamora
Diego Ochoa Garibay and Maria Solis may have more children that I am not aware of.
I saw a posting on the internet that they also had a daughter named Magdalena but I have not verified that information. No marriage or children were listed for her.
1.1.1.1.4.1.4) Ana Ibaluzea y Untzella (baptized 9/May/1529)
(Important to pay attention to the numbering, She is a younger sister to Martin Ochoa Ibarlucea. (AKA Machin Ochoa -Garibay)
1.1.1.1.4.2). Marina Ibanez de Uncella married to Juan Erenuzqueta. Again, it is important to pay attention to the numbering, she is Teresa Ibanez de Uncella's younger sister. Juan and Marina left descendants that I am not going to list here. Their descendants stayed in Spain.
Source: book mygenes2000,
Author. R.A.Ricci
1). Queen of England and France, Eleanor of Aquitane (b.abt1122), (d.1/Apr/1204) + Henry II Plantagenet, King of England
2). Princess of England, Leonore Plantagenet Queen consort of Castilla (b.13/Oct/1162, d.October/1214) + Alfonso VIII "el noble", King of Castilla
3). Berenguela I "la Grande", Queen of Castilla (d.8/Nov/1246) + Alfonso IX, "el Baboso" King of León and Galicia (b.15/Aug/1171), (d.24/Sep1230)
4). Alfonso de León, Señor de Molina y Mesa (b.1202) + Teresa Perez de Braganza [mistress]
Some genealogists name Urraca’s mother as Alfonso’s 3rd wife, Mayor Alfonso de Meneses.
5). Urraca Alfonso de Molina (b.abt 1233) + Garci Gomez de Carillo, señor de Ormasa
6). Garcia de Carillo.Señor de Ormasa y Mazuelo, (b. ca. 1266) + Elvira Alvarez de Osorio
7). Juana Garcia Carillo y Álvarez Osorio + Diego Gutierrez de Ceballos
8). Elvira Alvarez de Ceballos and Fernan Perez de Ayala, IX Sr. De Ayala
9). Juana Garcia de Ayala (Aka Fernández de Ayala aka de Ayala) married in
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Nuno Álvares Pereira conocido como “ San Nuno de Santa María” y también como “Protector de Portugal” es hermano de un ancestro de Juana Nuñez de Sotomayor, esposa De Diego Ochoa Garibay.
Leonor Alfonso de Guzmán, en su testamento fechado el 24 de abril de 1341, dejó la siguiente manda: Ytem mando a Sol Martinez que anda con mi fijo Don Johan, cinquenta maravedis.
The “testamento” was written in French and the meaning of the French words was that she was leaving the money for Sol who was "carrying" her son Juan's child.
So although Juan de la Cerda did not leave a Legal male heir, Sol Martinez did give him an illegitimate son named Martin Gonzalez de la Cerda. Juan de la Cerda is grandson to the king.
Martin Gonzalez de la Cerda married Violante Gonçalves Pereira who was the illegitimate daughter of Alvaro Gonçalves Pereiral . Iria’s brother, San Nuño de Santa María, is a famous saint, known as the “Protector de Portugal” , His baptismal name is Nuñez Álvarez Pereira.
Martin
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Hi Rick,
For your records, this is the 17 Apr 1660 IM for Juan Perez Garfias cc Maria Valdes, who were at 4/4, descending from Diego Ochoa Garibay and his half-sister, Magdalena Garibay:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KG94-F6?mode=g&i=864&wc=3N…
Diego Ochoa Garibay-1-Magdalena de Garibay
Juan Bautista Garibay-2-Juan Ochoa Garibay
Geronima Garibay-3-Josefa Abrego
Juan Perez Garfias-4-Maria Valdes
Saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo
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Hello Rick,
Would this be another son of Diego Ochoa Garibay cc Juana Núñez?
On 15 Aug 1613, baptized was Ana hija de Lazo ?? y de Cata Ximenes su muger, fueron sus padrinos Martin de Garibay y Juana Núñez su madre (right image).
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GY3K-JP?mode=g&i=9&wc=3NTR…
Saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo
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Thank you Manny for adding more pieces to the family tree. Your contributions have filled many holes in the rompedecabezas.
Thanks again and have a Happy Memorial Day weekend!
Rick A. Ricci
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Ricci,
First of all, thanks for all of your work, it is greatly appreciated. I started working on my ancestry last year and as of now I have been able to trace it back to 11 generations (Jalisco, Nueva Galicia, Espana). I'm a descendant of Martin de Ochoa y Garibay Ibarlucea ( 11th great grandfather). I see that you have some information on his mother's side (Juana Ibanez de Esteibar) but I was wondering if you knew Juan Otxoa's background.
My direct line:
Enrique Ochoa Cardenas nacido en Colima, Colima 1988
-Mi padre: Enrique Ochoa Casillas nacido en Pihuamo, Jalisco 1964
-Mi abuelo: Jesus Apolinario Ochoa Magana. Pihuamo, Jalisco 1923
-Bisabuelo: Enrique Ochoa Ochoa. Pihuamo, Jalisco 1882
-2do Bisabuelo: Jose Luis Apolinario Ochoa Urzua. Tecalitlan, Jalisco 1837
-3er Bisabuelo: Jose Francisco de Ochoa Mendoza . Tecalitlan, Jalisco 1789.
-4to Bisabuelo: Diego Eugenio de la Trinidad de Ochoa Padilla. Tamazula, Jalisco 1754.
-5to Bisabuelo: Joseph Francisco de Ochoa Garibay y
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Dear Enrique,
I have Juan Otxoa de Ybarlucea (born about 1490) (in Spanish:Juan Ochoa de Ibarlucea) as the son of Martin Otxoa Ybarlucea from Elorrio. Martin Otxoa Ybarlucea was an Escribano. It is most likely that Martin Ochoa is a converso. Though it is a high probability that Martin is Juan's father, it is not conclusive. I still need to do more research to say that it is 100% that he is his father.
In the Jewish culture, all men were required to read and write. It was a requirement that they be able read the Torah. Most non-Jewish people in those years were not literate. The Black Plague killed off many escribanos as they also became infected when they went to visit the sick to record their last testaments and their deaths. Since readers and writers were scarce, the more escribanos that died from the plague, the more Jews and conversos were recruited to take their place.
The direct line that you provided has a little different information than the family tree that I have put
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Wow. Thanks again for the info Rick. I'll add this to my tree.
You're right about my 5th great grandfather's name: Joseph Francisco Ochoa y Oseguera, I copied his wife's name by mistake when I wrote the comment. Good catch.
I'm interested in reading your book once it comes out.
Happy Holidays!
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6to Bisabuelos : Maria Coria Villaseñor and Miguel Geronimo Padilla De La Torre
Miguel Geronimo Padilla De La Torre is the son of Manuel Padilla and Juana De la Torre. He was baptized on 23/Oct/1701
No grandparents listed. I have not been successful in finding more information on Manuel Padilla and Juana De La Torre.
christening: 29 January 1730 ZAPOTLAN EL GRANDE, CIUDAD GUZMAN, JALISCO, MEXICO
father: Miguel Padilla
mother: Maria De Coria
Miguel Geronimo de Padilla
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records
Miguel Geronimo Padilla Torre
Gender Male
Christening Date 23 Oct 1701
Christening Place Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name Manuel De Padilla
Mother's Name Juana De La Torre
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8V3-ZPX : 2 January 2015), Miguel Geronimo Padilla Torre, 23 Oct 1701; citing Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico, reference V 4 P 63; FHL microfilm 281,890.
Name
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Dear Enrique,
-4to Bisabuelos: Diego Eugenio de la Trinidad de Ochoa Padilla. Tamazula, Jalisco 1754, and his second wife, Isabel Mendoza
It is believed by some people that Diego Eugenio de la Trinidad de Ochoa Padilla had two wives. The two wives had very similar names and more research needs to be done to discover whether they were actually two people or just one.
The two names are Maria Eulalia Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza and Maria Isabel Mendoza.
In the first town that they lived in the wife is named Eulalia Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza or Isabel Eulalia Hurtado de Mendoza. In the second town she is named Maria Isabel Mendoza or just Isabel Mendoza.
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Dear Enrique,
When I looked at your family tree I looked for other connections to my research. Even though you asked for Ochoa information, your family tree provided another piece to the Coria puzzle. Even though it was only a small piece to be added to the many pieces that I already have on the Coria family, it was a very welcome addition. Your small piece pushed me to go back and try again to solve the Coria dilemma. The pieces didn't seem to fit together until your added piece, plus a comment from Marcelina (Fabiola), helped me arrange the pieces so that it all makes sense.
Marcelina had stated that we should look at a couple of other places for more information. I had responded that I already had those sources. When I added your piece to the puzzle, I took another look at all the information that I had, and came up with a solution where all the pieces fit. I still need to revisit all the sources and make sure that there aren't any mistakes.
Thanks again,
Rick A. Ricci
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I'm glad my family tree helped you, but I'm curious. What was that piece in particular?
Thanks!
Enrique O.
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Hola a todos:
Mientras buscaba antecedentes de la familia Murguía localicé un libro sobre la familia Ochoa, tal vez les interese:
Está en PDF y se llama Un alacrán y dos ochoas. Genealogía de la familia Ochoa en Colima, visible en:
en www.culturacolima.gob.mx/imagenes/foroscolima/4/22pdf
Saludos
Marcelina
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Hola de nuevo:
Buscando sobre la familia Murguía encontré otra referencia, en el libro Apuntes para la historia de Tangancícuaro de Martín Sámano, se incluye un testimonio de Juan Ochoa Garibay, página 37.
es. escribid.com/doc/23551798
Felicidades
Marcelina
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1. Charles II the bad Rey De Navarra and Juana De Francia o De Valois
2. Pierre de Nabarra Evreux, conde de Mortain (b. 31/Mar/1366, Évreux, Eure, Normandy, France; d. 29/July/1412) with Mistress Ana Martinez De Peralta (daughter of García Martínez Peralta and Ana Sánchez Ruiz de Azagra) Pierre is married to another woman.
3. Pierre Perez De Peralta, señor De Aldonsilla, (known as “Mossen (Monsegneur) Pierre” [consejero real] Aka “Mosén Pierres de Peralta “el Viejo”. In 1416 he is named "ricohombre” in Navarra. Acting ambassador in París (1398, 1404, 1408 y 1409) in the conflict between the "armagnacs" y "borgoñones". Ambassador in Castilla (1412) and Aragón (1413 - 1414), ] ( He is often confused with his father, situation which repeats with his son “el menor or el joven”) [el mozo is more often reserved for “junior” and el menor or el joven is more often used for the third in line with similar names, ] He is married to Juana Ezpeleta y Garro, ( daughter of Ogier de Garo y Chatillon
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Someone asked me to explain the change in surnames in the Ochoa-Garibay pedigree.
If someone here in West Los Angeles asked where I live I would say Mar Vista. If I was in Northern California I would answer Los Angeles. if I was in another state, let's say a state clear across the country on the eastern coast, I would answer California. If I was in another country, I would answer the United States of America. This is how the surname sometimes changed from one generation to the next for Spaniards in the 15th and 16th centuries. The surnames didn't always change permanently. This was a naming pattern in these basque provinces. Some families kept their same surname even if they moved around. Some other families changed their surname often. In some families everyone changed their surname if one person changed his surname, in other families, every sibling may have a different surname.
Juan Martinez de Uncella de Mondragon de Aramayona de Alava
Ivan (Juan) son of Martin residing in the
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1). Martin Uncella ( born in the 1300's) is the father of
1.1) Ivan (Juan) Martinez Uncella (born about 1385) escribano de la villa (There is a story about him being banished by the king of Castilla that I go into more detail in my book). Ivan (Juan) is the father of
1.1.1). Martin Ibanez Uncella (born abt. 1430
Married to Juana Etxebarria (born abt 1435, daughter of Pedro Etxebarria, Señor del solar de Etxebarria. (Pedro is born on or before 1410 surname also later
spelled Echevarria.
They married and lived in Mondragon. Martin Ibanez Uncella and Juana Etxebarria are the parents of:
1.1.1.4). Teresa Ibanez de Uncella (born abt. 1465) married in Elorrio to Pedro Garcia de Esteibar ( born about 1465). Their marriage and life in Elorrio, Basque Country strongly influences the change in surname
Teresa Ibanez de Uncella and her husband Pedro Gartzia de Esteibar are the parents of:
1.1.1.4.1) Juana Ibanez de Esteibar (born abt. 1490) married to Juan Otxoa de Ybarlucea (born about
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Me gusta mucho este dicho que aparece en este articulo,
Un alacrán y dos ochoas.Genealogía de la familia Ochoa en Colima.por Enrique Ceballos Ramos.
Y veo que es muy cierto, por todos lados me encuentro a Ochoas y muchos de ellos parientes. Me interesaría conocer de estos Ochoas a partir de Gaspar Miguel Ochoa Padilla 9 enero 1764-X Originarios de Tamazula de Godiano Jalisco y mas puntual sobre los Ochoa Gutierrez de Tecalitlan, en tu libro llegaste a ellos?
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Hola Tere,
A mi tambien me gusta la frase del libro de Enrique Ceballos. En general hay parentesco entre los Ochoas de Colima y sur de Jalisco. Revise mi arbol genealogico y resulta que somos parientes lejanos. Mi 4to bisabuelo Diego Eugenio Ochoa Padilla (Tamazula 1754) era hermano mayor de Gazpar Miguel Ochoa Padilla. No tengo mucha informacion respecto a el, solo que caso con Maria Guadalupe de Orosco en 1784. Puedes ver el acta de matrimonio aqui: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCXB-BJQ
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Haciendo una investigación de los descendientes de los Ochoa Gutierrez me doy cuenta que hay muchos Ochoa casados con Ochoa, mi bisabuelo Rafael C Ochoa Gutierrez se caso con una sobrina Gertrudis Ochoa Ochoa hija de su media hermana y esta media hermana Maria de Jesus Ochoa de la Mora ella estaba estaba casada Ignacio Ochoa.... aparte hay otro monton mas. Después se caso Rafael O. G. con la media de hermana de su mujer o sea otra sobrina, pero ella era Castellanos Ochoa.
No pude abrir el enlace de "Lista de Pasajeros a indias" Entonces Martín fue el español que vino a America y no su hijo Diego? toda la familia dice que fue Diego y yo tenia la duda.
El libro ya salio? donde se consigue?
Saludos a los parientes lejanos y cercanos al corazón.
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Muchas gracias por tu información. Yo desciendo de
Diego Ochoa Garibay y Solis Y Juana Núñez de Sotomayor
Diego Ochoa Garibay Nuñez de Soto y Juana Bejines y Romero ( Zamora Mich)
Nicolas Ochoa Garibay y Benjines y María Jiménez Palomino y Luliana ( Zamora)
Joseph Ochoa Garibay Y Jimenez y Maria Ana Gutiérrez de Robles y Esqueda ( Zamora)
Bonifacio de Ochoa Garibay y Gutierrez y Antonia Oseguera y Maciel Betancourt.
1725 José Francisco de Sales de Ochoa Garibay y Oseguera, Juana Vicencia Guadalupe Padilla Coria (Tamazula)
1763 Gaspar Miguel Ochoa Garibay Padilla y Marcela Guadalupe Orozco Hurtado de Mendoza, (Tamazula - Cotija)
1791 Rafael Ochoa Orozco y 1-María del Carmen de la Mora Siordia (Tecalitlan)
Y 2-María del Rosario Gutiérrez Anguiano
1837 Rafel Cleofás Ochoa Gutierrez, y Gertrudis Ochoa y Ochoa ( Tecalitlan- Colima)
1867 Salvador Ochoa y Ochoa y Beatriz Montes de Oca Orozco ( Tecalitlan)
1916 Salvador Ochoa Montes de Oca y Matilde Magaña Quiroz
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You can find Martin Ochoa y Esteibar on the list of Pasajeros where they name his father as Juan Ochoa and his mother as Juana Esteibar.
http://www.sologenealogia.com/Pasajeros/listadopadres/1535-1538/1535-15…
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I forgot to add that Francisca Ochoa Garibay y Nunez de Sotomayor had a second marriage to Alonso Romero Chavez. I descend from the first marriage many times. I also descend from Her brother Juan Ochoa. My wife also descends from the Ochoa Garibay family.
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Juan Otxoa de Ybarlucea (born about 1490) (in Spanish:Juan Ochoa de Ibarlucea) is most likely the son of Martin Otxoa Ybarlucea from Elorrio. Martin Otxoa Ybarlucea was an Escribano. I believe that he is the same escribano that works for the King. This would mean that Juan Otxoa Ybarluceas son was named after his grandfather. The grandfather is not found with the Garibai surname but the grandson Martin Otxoa Ybarlucea was also known as Machin Ochoa Garibay.
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By mistake in two places I named Maria solis as a parent with Diego when Juana Nunez de Sotomayor is what I meant to write
I wrote this mistake above where I list their children. Maria Solis is Diego Ochoa Garibays mother
I also made the same mistake when I mentioned that Diego and his wife may have more children then I am aware of. Again it should say Juana Nunez de Sotomayor and not Maria Solis.
Sorry for the errors,
Rick A Ricci
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King Henry II & Queen Eleanore to Enrique Ochoa Cardenas