Finding a Roll Number vs Film Number

Hello friends,

How do I find a specific "Rollo" on FamilySearch. I know how to search under "film number," but someone documented a source using the Roll number and not the film number and I am trying to follow their research back.

My source says the document was at the Archivo del Arzobizpado de Guadalajara, Roll 2989, 1611-1699 and that it is a Capellania. So, I went to the films under those dates at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DG9H-6F?owc=3JW2-3TG%3A171…
but lo an behold there is no such roll number, the Capellania that is 1611-1699 is Roll#2986, and the one that is 1611-1854 is roll #2990, both of which are REALLY close, but are not the right number, which again is #2989.

I also looked at the Indexes that Kati Brecht has kindly put together, but I am not finding it. Maybe it has not been digitized?

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Sergio

PS Here is the link to the source I am following, p 99, footnote 20 https://books.google.com/books?id=Uc81YwxijI0C&pg=PA99&dq=D%C3%A1valos+…

I just remembered that once I went to the Archivo General de la Nación in Mexico City (Lecumberri) and I think there they have the same microfilms as Familsearch, but they list them by OAH roll number rather than microfilm number.
Best regards,
Victoriano Navarro

Hi,
I noticed the roll numbers you mention are preceded by the letters OAH, so I Googled "OAH 2989" and found this:

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¡gracias por los aportes migueltren! https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-16563-38?cc=1874591&wc…. 001 168857. 002 oah 2989.

So I copied the web address:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-16563-38?cc=1874591&wc…

It takes you to film # 168857, OAH 2989 pt 4, Capellanías 1671-1859.

So I guess they divided the roll 2989 in several microfilms, the 4th one being 168857.

Good luck with your search.
Victoriano Navarro

Sergio,

whenever I've seen that before it meant that it had to ordered cause it wasn't online. you could email family search to be sure.

Danny C. Alonso