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In a message dated 2/23/2005 12:02:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
makas@... writes:


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can you fill us in on why some of those films cover overlapping years. .
.

I do not know why...I just know that they do.  My closest guess is
that the documents were scattered, out of order, and just jumbled
together.


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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I'm late
for work now otherwise I'd copy and print some examples but I've noticed some
are something like:

1830-1899 [xxxxxxx]
1799-1856
[xxxxxxx]
1845-1900 [xxxxxxx]

thus i f you are looking for a
dispensation you would need to order all three films.

Yes, you would.


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been your experience that you just need to bite the bullet and order all 3 or
is there a way to distinguish which films to order.

No there really is no way to distinguish...But do not be afraid to "bite
the bullet" as you say, because you never know what pleasant surprises you may
find in these other films (try to think positive, and not that the micofilms
will be an utter waste of your time).


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I'm wondering why were there these overlapps???

Don't know for sure.  It is what it is.


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gracias Steven,


De nada

Published by kosephouentes – Wed, 2005-02-23 01:01 | Permalink

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Steven can you fill us in on why some of those films cover overlapping
years. . .I'm late for work now otherwise I'd copy and print some
examples but I've noticed some are something like:



1830-1899 [xxxxxxx]

1799-1856 [xxxxxxx]

1845-1900 [xxxxxxx]



thus i f you are looking for a dispensation you would need to order all
three films. has that been your experience that you just need to bite
the bullet and order all 3 or is there a way to distinguish which films
to order. I guess I'm wondering why were there these overlapps???



gracias Steven,



joseph



Pacorro73@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/22/2005 5:06:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
drortiz@... writes:

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In reading the microfilms of marriage records for Nochistlán,
Zacatecas, I was disappointed to find that there are no parents
identified for the bride and groom for the first third of the 18th
century (till about 1733) nor for much of the year 1752.
 
        Since they had to prove their relationship was distant
enough, I'm assuming that information was recorded elsewhere.  Can
someone suggest where I should look.
This sounds like the couple needed a dispensation to marry. 
This stuff is right up my alley, so to speak.  I am rather familiar
with marriage dispensations, where both the bride and the groom were
related to one another. 
 
If indeed there was a dispensa, then it will be archived in the
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, and all of them have been microfilmed,
but none extracted into the IGI.  These are part of the Archdiocese of
Guadalajara microfilms.  I have already ordered and researched in about
50 of them, ranging from 1799 to 1829, but not every single year
researched.  That is my initial goal, to check out every single
microfilm, because you never what you can find in these veritable gold
mines of genealogical data.
 
Deena, I want to help you, but you have to let me know the
specifics of the Nochistlan marriage.  Who were the contrayentes?  What
date was it? 
 
Regards,
Steven H.

Published by oacorro73a – Wed, 2005-02-23 00:48 | Permalink

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In a message dated 2/22/2005 5:06:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
drortiz@... writes:


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In reading the microfilms of marriage records for Nochistlán, Zacatecas,
I was disappointed to find that there are no parents identified for the bride
and groom for the first third of the 18th century (till about 1733) nor for
much of the year 1752.

 

        Since they had to prove their
relationship was distant enough, I'm assuming that information was recorded
elsewhere.  Can someone suggest where I should
look.


This sounds like the couple needed a dispensation to marry.  This
stuff is right up my alley, so to speak.  I am rather familiar with
marriage dispensations, where both the bride and the groom were related to one
another. 

 

If indeed there was a dispensa, then it will be archived in the Sagrada
Mitra de Guadalajara, and all of them have been microfilmed, but none extracted
into the IGI.  These are part of the Archdiocese of Guadalajara
microfilms.  I have already ordered and researched in about 50 of them,
ranging from 1799 to 1829, but not every single year researched.  That is
my initial goal, to check out every single microfilm, because you never what you
can find in these veritable gold mines of genealogical data.

 


Deena, I want to help you, but you have to let me know the specifics of the
Nochistlan marriage.  Who were the contrayentes?  What date was
it? 

 

Regards,

Steven H.

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