----- Original Message -----

From: Margarita Vallazza

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:49 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] "tarayata"

 

Don't forget the "tara" in Taraumara (sp?) Indians in Chihuahua. 
Memarge:)

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Puentes

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:41 AM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] "tarayata"

 

cool!!! Maybe Emilie's mom was South American. Emilie why not join the Peruvian or Bolivian Rootsweb email groups or just post a message on their message boards and ask what Tarayata means. You never know.

here's the URL for the Peruvian Message board:

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.southam.peru.general

joseph

latina1955@... wrote:

I just looked up "aymara" region, it appears to be a language spoken by indigenous people in South America...hmmmm....I wonder, if there were any "transplants" from South America to Mexico?

Aymara is the language of the Aymara people of the Andes. It is one of only a handful of Native American languages with over a million speakers, and it is one of the official languages of Bolivia and Peru. It is also spoken in Chile and Argentina.

Many linguists believe that Aymara is related to its more widely-spoken neighbour, Quechua. This claim, however, is disputed — although there are indeed similarities, critics say that these may simply be the result of prolonged interaction between the two languages or an areal feature, not a shared origin.

The Aymara language is an inflected language, and has a subject-object-verb word order

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Puentes

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:52 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] "tarayata"

 

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. . . don't ask me,

joseph


Emilie Garcia wrote:

Well, I guess I will never find out where my father got the word "tarayata".  He was always laughing when he said it, sort of like calling us "rascals" when we were rough-housing with him  He was not prone to name calling, and being from Mexico, he spoke proper Castilian as his people had.  My mother, who spoke a strange old 17th century Spanish dialect from New Mexico (according to my Spanish friend), one that I no longer hear, was not laughing when she called me "tonta, suata, surumata, tisica, fea, chirisca, prieta, trige~na" all in one breath.  I must have been a handful, and I think I am the only throw-back in the family to our dark-skinned, kinky-haired North African-Moorish ancestors.  I'm surprised I didn't grow up with an inferiority complex due to being made fun of by the "gueros" in the family.  I just used to think they were the stupid ones, the politically incorrect ones that when losing an argument, would voice their prejudices against something I had nothing to do with.  I guess they thought they had one up on me.  I was surprised that in Mexico they use such terms as "negritos, chinitos, morenitos, inditos" etc.  You are right, Maria, they are very politically incorrect, when even their president betrays that aspect of their society. 

 

    Emilie Garcia

    Port Orchard, WA.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: readysetgo95814

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:52 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroupscom

Subject: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling

 

I've heard "taruga" and "tarada" growing up too.  "Tonta" is another
synonym.  I have to admit I call my own kids some of those names from
time to time. Just trying to keep the tradition going...  :)

I wonder if it's because our culture hasn't gotten on the politically
correct bandwagon? I thought about that when President Fox made that
statement about our gente taking jobs "that even Blacks won't take".
The Mexican response to the American one was that it wasn't meant to
offend. Understanding our cultura the way I understand it I knew that
to be true. However, Fox was criticized because; as some pointed out,
he was educated here in the States and should've known better.

Maria

p.s. Another word that I remember hearing is "vaquetón"  This one
means rascal or something along those lines.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in "como eres
tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost like "como eres menso". 
Tarugo, tarado, and menso are used in about the same context.
> I know, I've been called all three at different times!
>
> John
>
> 1gnzlz@v...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: latina1955@a..
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
>
>
>   "Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was often called
because I was considered lazy when I was younger - I simply didn't
enjoy doing the household chores while my brothers were out
playing :).  Perhaps the "tara" portion is the relationship in a
similar base language, which be in this area of discussion!
>
>   Esperanza
>
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