Congratulations, Joseph, on breaking through your brick wall.  It
gives me hope that I can also break some brick walls of my own!

Also, I sympathize with you being "cansado" from all you duties and
chores as a group admnistrator.  You seem to have answered your own
questions from a previous message.  

Easy does it!  

Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:

> Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break 
> through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not 
> knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a
collection 
> or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death 
> certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some 
> that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she 
> came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother, Antonia 
> Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a Rancho not far from 
> Huejucar. Her parents are Francisco Lopez and Rosalia Garcia. Her 
> Abuelos paternos are Nicolas Lopez and Alvina Perez and Abuelos
maternos 
> are Florentino Garcia and Toribia Renteria. My grandmother Antonia
Lopez 
> had at least two brothers: one named Nicolas and another named Antonio 
> Lopez who later married Demetria Jacobo and had at least one child
named 
> Crecencio Lopez who married Josefina Cerujo.  Nicolas Lopez when on to 
> marry and have one child named Francisca Lopez who married a Rogaciano 
> Raigoza.
> 
> [Digame Arturo. . .somos primos???]
> 
> What is interesting is that oral history told me she was from
Atotonilco 
> but I didn't know there was 3 Atotonilco's in Jalisco (who knows but 
> maybe there are more). I had always though that I would have to get 
> records from two Atotonilco's in Southern Jalisco and just start having 
> to hunt around for a misc. Antonia Lopez and hope to be able to detect 
> if it was my Antonia Lopez. Having found an Atotonilco close to
Huejucar 
> has been great.
> 
> oh by the way I found the marriage record for Florentino Garcia and 
> Toribia Renteria. And there parents are: Agapito Nestor Garcia and
Maria 
> Antonia Lopez AND Antonio Renteria and Antonia Montes.
> 
> cool huh?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: so are we going to talk about Ranchos or what?
>