Thaks, Angie ---- I guess I never looked at the whole list for Jerez and
only saw the Bautismos on the top.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA --


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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:36
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Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos
Legitimos


Emilie,

Here is this list:
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1867-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439889 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1891-1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439890 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1906-1919 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439891 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1953-1961 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 439892 ]

Taken from this
page:

title=http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai
href="http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai">http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai

lsprint.asp?titleno=354158

Good
luck on your search,
Angie Godina


--- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>

wrote:
>
> Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over
the microfilm
for baptisms from Jerez around the time my father Guadalupe
Olague
was born (January 28, 1903).  I have never been able to locate
my
father's birth record in it, even though I have found his father in

Tepetongo (Rancho Salitrillo) and others there back to the early

1700's. While I was loading the film yesterday, I noticed that the

title of the book filmed was "Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos", and sure

enough, I did not find one "hijo natural" or "hijo de padre no

conocido" in it.  It seems all other films I have searched included

all baptisms, hijos naturales, adoptivos, etc. even if they made

reference to other books where the actual names of the parents were

written.  So, hmmm, was Daddy illegitimate?  If so, is there a
book
for "hijos naturales" that was not microfilmed?  What would such
a
book be called?  Where would one obtain info from such a book, and

would it take an act of congress to get it?
>
> My father at
one time (in the early 1960's) needed a birth record
for work and for
Social Security and we went from California to Jerez
to the church there
only to have the priest tell him that all records
for that time period had
been burned during the Revolucion.  Sometime
later, my father must
have contacted a lawyer there because after my
mother died and I was going
through all their records, I found an
affadavit to prove his previously
unrecorded birth.  As testigos and
witnesses that my father was born
in Jerez were listed some men
(maybe they are deceased by now) that bore
the surnames of his
parent's and grandparent's lines (Munos, Soriano.
Escobedo, Garcia). 
His mother was Gorgonia Garcia.  Where and
how did this lawyer find
them?  One place name mentioned was "La
Gavia", but it is not one of
the places mentioned in the film I have been
looking at (0439867). 
In the list of Communidades (Rancherias) de
Jerez that I have, La
Gavia is mentioned as being founded by the
Garcia-Cadena, Diaz, and
Escobedo families at the end of the 16th
century.  The list names 142
communidades y rancherias for Jerez
alone.  Some of my father's
ancestors were Felix, and there is a
community or rancho called Los
Felix on the list.  That was founded
by Jose and Doroteo Felix. The
community of Tepetongo where my father's
ancestors were from was
called Salitrillo, and is not listed in the list
for Jerez even
though Tepetongo was in the Jurisdiccion de Jerez.
>

> Does anyone know about books for "hijos naturales", etc?
>

> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard,
WA.
>