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Oh, Angie, Victor,

 

I guess the priest my father talked to was correct.  The records for
1903 when my father was born were burned during the Revolucion.  The films
skip from 1902 to 1906.  I want to cry.

 

Emilie


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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:07
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Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de
Hijos Legitimos



Thaks, Angie ---- I guess I never looked at the whole list for Jerez and
only saw the Bautismos on the top.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA --


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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:36
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Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de
Hijos Legitimos


Emilie,

Here is this list:
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1867-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439889 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1891-1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439890 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1906-1919 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439891 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1953-1961 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 439892 ]

Taken from
this page:

title=http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai
href="http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai">http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai

lsprint.asp?titleno=354158

Good
luck on your search,
Angie Godina


--- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>

wrote:
>
> Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring
over the microfilm
for baptisms from Jerez around the time my father
Guadalupe Olague
was born (January 28, 1903).  I have never been
able to locate my
father's birth record in it, even though I have found
his father in
Tepetongo (Rancho Salitrillo) and others there back to the
early
1700's. While I was loading the film yesterday, I noticed that the

title of the book filmed was "Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos", and sure

enough, I did not find one "hijo natural" or "hijo de padre no

conocido" in it.  It seems all other films I have searched included

all baptisms, hijos naturales, adoptivos, etc. even if they made

reference to other books where the actual names of the parents were

written.  So, hmmm, was Daddy illegitimate?  If so, is there a
book
for "hijos naturales" that was not microfilmed?  What would
such a
book be called?  Where would one obtain info from such a
book, and
would it take an act of congress to get it?
>
>
My father at one time (in the early 1960's) needed a birth record
for
work and for Social Security and we went from California to Jerez
to the
church there only to have the priest tell him that all records
for that
time period had been burned during the Revolucion.  Sometime
later,
my father must have contacted a lawyer there because after my
mother
died and I was going through all their records, I found an
affadavit to
prove his previously unrecorded birth.  As testigos and
witnesses
that my father was born in Jerez were listed some men
(maybe they are
deceased by now) that bore the surnames of his
parent's and
grandparent's lines (Munos, Soriano. Escobedo, Garcia). 
His mother
was Gorgonia Garcia.  Where and how did this lawyer find

them?  One place name mentioned was "La Gavia", but it is not one
of
the places mentioned in the film I have been looking at
(0439867). 
In the list of Communidades (Rancherias) de Jerez that
I have, La
Gavia is mentioned as being founded by the Garcia-Cadena,
Diaz, and
Escobedo families at the end of the 16th century.  The
list names 142
communidades y rancherias for Jerez alone.  Some of
my father's
ancestors were Felix, and there is a community or rancho
called Los
Felix on the list.  That was founded by Jose and Doroteo
Felix. The
community of Tepetongo where my father's ancestors were from
was
called Salitrillo, and is not listed in the list for Jerez even

though Tepetongo was in the Jurisdiccion de Jerez.
>
> Does
anyone know about books for "hijos naturales", etc?
>
> Emilie
Garcia
> Port Orchard,
WA.
>