I think this is your grandfather and your great-grandmother, Michael. Looks like your search will end up being in Fresnillo and Jerez, Zacatecas. Ramon Gonzales Male Family Event(s): Birth: 31 AUG 1891 Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, Mexico Christening: Death: 31 OCT 1969 Burial: Parents: Father: Victor Gonzales Family Mother: Luisa Ayala Marriages: Marriage: 03 JUL 1919 Anaheim, , , California Luisa Ayala Female Event(s): Birth: 25 AUG 1869 Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico Christening: Death: 02 SEP 1919 Burial: Parents: Father: Jose Maria Ayala Family Mother: Serapia Reyes Medina --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> wrote: > Victor: > > Was your grandfather's mother's last name Ayala? If so this may be a > good start for your search from the IGI database. You can try > looking up one of these baptismal records and see if the grandparent > names match. No luck on finding Rancho San Justo, but the resource > you are referencing is available online: > > http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm > > Victor Gonzales > Male Family > Event(s): > Birth: 06 MAR 1855 Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, > Mexico > Christening: > Death: 30 JUL 1934 > Burial: > Marriages: > Spouse: Luisa Ayala Family > Marriage: About 1880 , Zacatecas, Mexico > > Luisa Ayala > Female Family > Event(s): > Birth: 25 AUG 1869 Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico > Christening: > Death: 02 SEP 1919 > > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "ftworthtexgonzales" > <TexGonzales@m...> wrote: > > Hi Ranchos Group Members, > > > > I am Michael Gonzales and have a strong interest in the Gonzales, > > Ayala, Calleros and Lucero lines in Zacatecas, Mexico on my > > father's side and the Ayala, Zamora, Ortiz and Moreno lines in > > Michoacan, Mexico on my mother's side. I was born in California > > and > > am a transplant to Texas. Most of my family is still in > California, > > up and down the coast. > > > > I mainly use the LDS Family History Centers and the INS non- > > statistical records for Mexican border crossings in the 1912-20 > > timeframes. I also us the US Census records for family > > identifications in the 1920-30 period. > > > > I am trying to find my paternal grandfather's birth or baptismal > > records (Ramon Gonzales-31 August 1891). I have birth > registrations > > for two of his brothers (Francisco and Julian) who were born in > > Rancho San Justo, Zacatecas, Mex, but nothing yet on my Paternal > > grandfather, Ramon. I have not yet tried to look up records on my > > great grandfather Victor Gonzales or my great grandmother Luisa. > > I'm hoping to find any reference to where they were born and > > their ages at the time of birth of Ramon or his brothers and sister > > so I don't get lost in a great chase. The only thing I see in > > Julian > > and Francisco's birth registration is the names of the parents > > (Victor and Luisa) and grandparents (Abraham and Bonifacia). They > > don't contain info on where they (parents or grandparents) were > > born. It does make reference to La Vicaria de la Hacienda de > > Obrega. Anyone have info on that Hacienda? > > > > I found a great resource in a book I ordered through my local LDS > > Family History Center. It's entitled "Diccionario > > Biográfico y > > Geográfico", film numbers 1102587 and 1102588. It was > > published in > > about 1891 and contains loads of information about towns and names > > that were of that time period. It has some info on ranchos, but > > only general names. For example, I could not find Rancho San Justo > > alphabetically, but I didn't look for others to see if by chance > > others might be listed. I have it on permanent loan and have found > > it to be quite valuable as I go back into the 1800s . > > > > Anyway, searching for my ancestors has been an exciting journey. > > Maybe I can get some help from this group. Please see my > > website "AyalaGonzalesFamiilia" (run words together)under > > Yahoo > > Groups. I have several stories there about the lines I have been > > researching. > > > > Michael Gonzales
