Peggy, Are Maria Manuela's parents, Juan Domingo RAMOS and Feliciana Victoria CARDENAS? If so, here is their marriage record: JUAN DOMINGO RAMOS Male Groom's Parents: Father: DIEGO DE SANTIAGO Mother: BERNARDA DE CASAS Marriages: Spouse: FELICIANA VICTORIA DE CARDENAS Marriage: 15 FEB 1733 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Bride's Parents: Father: BARTHOLOME DE CARDENAS Mother: CATARINA MORILLO Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: M604651 1720 - 1751 0443781 Here are some of their children: + LUIS BELTRAN CARDENAS Gender: Male Christening: 03 NOV 1737 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico + MARIA DE LA CONCEPON. RAMOS CARDENAS Gender: Female Christening: 14 FEB 1740 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico + CLEMENTE CARDENAS Gender: Male Christening: 08 DEC 1747 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico + PETRA CARDENAS Gender: Female Christening: 13 MAY 1757 Totatiche, Jalisco, Mexico + JOSEPH ALVINO RAMOS CARDENAS Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAR 1759 Totatiche, Jalisco, Mexico Perhaps here is Maria Manuela's christening (there are no surnames listed but all the first names match up and time period): MARIA MANUELA Female Event(s): Christening: 07 APR 1750 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Parents: Father: JUAN DOMINGO Mother: FELICIANA Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: C602862 1744 - 1755 0443672 I have some additional information on Bartholome DE CARDENAS and Catarina Morillo's family if you would like to see it. I am not related to this family, as far as I know, but I have been holding on to this information because my 6th great-grand father was Bartholome De Cardenas married to Barbara Gutierres during this same time period in Colotlan. I can't imagine there being two Bartholome De Cardenas, so I thought perhaps they were the same person and he was a widower who remarried. I haven't been able to prove this theroy since I can't find either Bartolome's marriage information. So it is another item on my list of things to do/find/verify, etc. Just in case...here is my Cardenas info, let me know if you recognize any names. ++ Bartholome DE CARDENAS. He married Barbara GUTIERRES. Their Children were as follows: i Catharina DE CARDENAS. She married on 19 Jan 1722 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juan Mathias DE GAETA. ii Maria Antonia DE CARDENAS. She married on 29 Jan 1732 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Nicolas GODINA, son of Nicolas GODINA and Maria Ana DE LAMAS. iii Francisco DE CARDENAS. He married on 24 May 1734 in Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico Juliana MUNOS LOPEZ, christened 25 Mar 1720 in Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico, daughter of Joseph MUNOS and Melchora de los Reies LOPEZ BRAVO. iv Maria Rosa DE CARDENAS. She married on 6 Oct 1735 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Miguel FERNANDEZ, son of Nicolas FERNANDEZ and Josepha TOSTADO. v Juan Mathias DE CARDENAS. He married on 12 Jun 1740 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Luiza Theresa MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS, daughter of Francisco MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS and Theresa RAMIREZ DE LA ROSA. vi Christobal de los Santos DE CARDENAS. He married on 12 Jun 1740 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Antonia Petronila MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 12 Jul 1719 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico, daughter of Francisco MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS and Theresa RAMIREZ DE LA ROSA. The last two children, are brothers that married sisters in a double wedding cermony. Good luck on your search, Angie Godina --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado" <peggydee@c...> wrote: > > Hey! I, just recently, found that I DO have a connection in Totatiche........I have ancestors, Jose Leonisio Hernandes married Maria Manuela Ramos married in Totatiche on 04/271768. Although I can't find Maria Manuela's record of birth there, I have a record for her brother and sister: Joseph Alvino Ramos, born 03/12/1759 and Maria Martina Ramos, born 11/14/1756. > I also have a record for Jose Leonisio's sister, Maria Guadalupe Hernandes, born 12/26/1755. > > Can I add these new limbs to my file? I can't remember if there's room! > > Also, this Tuxpan you mentioned, is there many, or only one "Tuxpan". My mother-in-law, who's maiden name is Padilla, says that her great-grandfather was from here, and she mentioned him being some sort "alcalde" or mayor and that t here was a statue of him...was there some sort of statue in Tuxpan of a man who's last name would be Padilla? Or is that another Tuxpan? I really haven't researched my husbands family yet, but I enjoy talking with my mother- in-law, who is 79, in the hopes of starting my husbands tree. > > Peggy
