I too have come across instances in the 1500s and 1600s where some siblings took on the surname of their father and others, their mother's. I have heard some of the following explanations to account for this: 1)Perhaps their mother's line was more distinguished, particularly if she was the daughter or grandaughter of someone famous; 2)Perhaps their father had committed some crime and some of his children did not want to be associated with his name; 3)Perhaps the father's line/surname was associated as being Sephardic and some children wished to disguise this fact, particularly when the Inquisition came to Mexico. Or perhaps it really was not that big a deal back then to take on one parent's name over the other. I imagine for most of the Spanish conquistadores and immigrants, coming to the New World must have been a fluid time in terms of identity--it was a rare chance to remake themselves. Chris Pineda --- Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...> wrote: > Linda: > > I got some persepective on this issue from Mssrs. de > la Torre Berumen > and Valdes Salazar while I was down in Mexico. > > Apparently, soon after the Mexican independence, > President Vicente > Guerrero (who was mulatto) decreed that all > Spaniards be expelled from > Mexico. In reality, many were exempted but > certainly all of those who > had been loyalists during the war of independence > and those that had > royal ties (since Mexico was now a republic) were > expelled. > > Those Spanish families that remained became weary of > being labeled > Spanish and particularly loyalists or royalists and > thus those > with "composed names" such as "Carlos y Godoy" or > "Fernandez de Jara > Quemada" quickly dropped parts of their names to > mexicanize them. I > think it was somewhat arbitrary which parts they > dropped. > > On a similar note, I would appreciate hearing any > perspectives people > may have about how children chose whether to take on > the mother's > family name vs. the father's family name. I have > run across many > instances, particularly in the 17th century where > children of the same > family took on different names, i.e. some siblings > took on the father's > name "Covarrubias" and other siblings in the same > family took on the > mother's name "De La O" so you have siblings with > different last names. > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda > Castanon-Long" > <longsjourney@y...> wrote: > > > > I'm hoping you can help me with double surnames. > Is there a > > difference when they use De or Y? Such as Alvares > del Castillo or > > Ochoa y Garibay? How long did they usually keep > the double surname? > > I haven't found a reason why some families ended > up using the surname > > they chose.. Villasenor y Jaso, some went > Villasenor and others went > > Jaso.. same family! > > > > I have gone from records in Tamazula Jalisco to > Chilchota Michoacan. > > So many families from that part of Jalisco came > from this area of > > Michoacan in the later 1700's. In doing marriage > records from there > > I'm finding it not unusual to have the actual > marriage in the home of > > a family member, was that normal for the mid > 1750's? > > Linda in Everett > > > > > > > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
