Victor:

 

I could add to your message that many of this
opponents to immigration are descendents of "illegal" immigrants. As we 
know, "illegal" immigration was notorious thru the Canadian border too
(Europeans). I found, like you, a double standard on the issue. I believe is
just about the color of the skin, unfortunately. I couldn't agree with you
more.

 

Susana


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Subject: [ranchos] Re: Dialog of the Dead
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Emilie,

The group has been rather quietly lately so
I'm using this opportunity
to make an additional comment on the "Dialog of
the Dead" play.  I
understand that it might not be directly related to
genealogy but
since Joseph brought up the subject I hope nobody will
complain.

I have previously expressed an opinion about one experience
that could
be common among some of us that are in pursuit of our
genealogical
roots:  the contrast between finding our dead relatives
and finding
our living relatives.  Relations with our dead are so
easy; they do
not prejudge us; they do not make any kind of demands; we
just embrace
them as part of ourselves regardless of what, where or who
they were
and that's the end of it.  Relations with the living,
particularly
those distant living relatives that we rediscover thru
our
genealogical endeavors, can be and often are very complicated. 
And,
aren't we all related at some point back in time?

Our
prejudices and misconceptions of life usually get in the way and
it isn't
easy accepting each other when we have such divergent views
of the world
that surrounds us.  We may share common genes but our
outlook on life
has been shaped by our experiences and is continually
being influenced by
external forces.  Our actions stem from our
individual "perception of
reality" and our sense of belonging.

I agree with the views expressed
by some members here about how great
and lovable this group and our virtual
fellowship is but there's no
denying that "it's a jungle out there" in the
real world. There's just
too much polarization and that is reflected in so
many aspects of our
societies. 

Take for example the US
immigration debate. The underlying motivation
for every migrant, either
today or five hundred years ago or five
thousand years ago, has always been
to improve one's life and/or get
away from a bad situation.  That has
been the norm since who knows
when, even before countries existed as we
know them today.  On the
other hand, immigration laws are of more
recent creation and can be
reformed and adapted to the needs and purposes
of each country.  What
I find ironic is that some of the most
vociferous anti-immigration
proponents like Colorado state congressman Tom
Tancredo or radio talk
host Michael Savage, are themselves sons of
immigrants.  And I don't
mean from 10 generations ago but 2 and 1
generations ago respectively.
How selfishly intolerant and xenophobic can
humans really become is
amazing!  Even California's governor, who has
openly suported
anti-immigration movements like the minute-man project is
an immigrant
himself.  What is their implicit message?  OK, now
that we're in close
the doors (and build a wall) behind us for anyone else,
particularly
those dark-skinned little mexicans from south of the
border.  American
pie slices getting too thin?

Now the saddest
part.  I have witnessed how Hispanics wearing the
official uniforms of
the US immigration authorities and behind the
desks at the border offices
deal with Mexicans and other foreigners
who go there and ask for a permit
to enter the United States.  Have
you ever being treated as a 2nd
class citizen?  Can you imagine
imagine yourself in both sides of this
equation?  What's really
surprising is that Anglo-Saxon looking
immigration officers hardly
show the kind of prepotency and disdain towards
Mexicans as those with
the Hispanic surnames on their tags.  How can
this be explained?  Have
they been brainwashed in the name of homeland
security or is this
just our human nature?  Who is really behind those
anti-immigration
voices infusing into your minds so much venomous and
hateful rhetoric?

Just to end.  I want to share with you a link
that shows another
historical aspect of people migrating to find a better
life.  But this
time in reverse.  Not from Mexico into the US but
out of the US and
into Mexico.

href="http://www.texancultures.utsa.edu/hiddenhistory/Pages1/tyler.htm">http://www.texancultures.utsa.edu/hiddenhistory/Pages1/tyler.htm

How
many of you were aware of this reality?

Victor
México


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In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"
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wrote:
>
> Victor,
>
>
As usual your observation is as astute as always.  I did identify
with
some of the debaters, those that took the middle road.  I think
we all
need to get together and advance our situations by sticking
together and
not going off on tangents to the extremes, such as the
Aztlan group. 
It is unfortunate that those in that group do not
realize that people like
Pat Buchanan stir the Anglo populace up by
making it look like that fringe
group speaks for us all, and that we
are all into "Reconquista" which
brings up to the Anglos the specter
of armed brown hordes seeking to
re-conquer the land.  We are slowly
re-conquering anyway, due to the
American economy being so dependent
on cheap Mexican labor in
manufacturing, agriculture and services.  We
just need to tone down
our resentments and work towards ensuring that
this country remains the
bastion that it has been for human rights for
everyone.  We can't
afford to take any backward steps.  We must
acculturate, but because
of the proximity to Mexico and our mostly
Native origins, they can't expect
us to give up our ethnicity as
rapidly nor as completely as other immigrant
groups.  This will take
several generations to accomplish, if
ever.
>
> Emilie