Hi Everyone

So I haven't been able to get the book Ameca, protofundación Mexicana, as I live in Canada, but I was able to find a snippet view of Angela Perez Maldonado, Amaya Topete says that she was the sister of the priest Juan Perez Maldonado (attached)

Rick, commented here that there was a couple of dispensations mentioning her, one where she is the daughter of Diego Perez Maldonado, and the other says she is his grand child, however I have been unable to locate them so far.

Does anyone have any links to her ancestry? I saw her family tree on family search but a lot of the names don't have any source documents and I would like to know more about that family.

Any other books you would recommend, or sources for info are much, much appreciated.

Gracias de nuevo :)

Como muchoas ya han de saber, todos los libros de las Tierras y Aguas sobre las propiedadades están disponibles digitalmente para poderlos consultar/As you might already know, all the books from Tierras y aguas, 1584-1866, are available to explore on

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/278176?availability=Family%…

Me parece increible porque yo siempre he querido saber sobre las primeras personas que eran dueñas de todas esas tierras en Calvillo, Aguascalientes.Encontré muchos registros donde mencionan al valle de huejucar o mencionan tierras que probablemte se encontraban allí. El Valle de huejucar que ahora se conmoce como Calvillo, fue parte de la juridiccion de Juchip[ila por mas de dos siglos.
Which is amazing because I always wanted to find out who were the landowners in Calvillo, Aguascalientes back then known as Valle de Huejucar/Huejucar. Calvillo belonged to the Juchipila back then. I found various records that mention land within that area of Calvillo, but I've found it incredibly hard to read because there are new abbreviations, the terminology is different compared to the church records and also the writing is hard to understand.

1. Diego Flores en Juchipila. Se menciona a Valle de Huejucar

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6SC7-R?i=244&cat=…

2. Lazaro Calvillo. Se menciona que sus tierras son desde Ojocalientillo a la sierra de Teocaltiche. Lo que me hace pensar que se trate de un lugar actual de Calvillo que se llama arroyo de Ojocalientillo y la sierra de Teocaltiche ahora se llama Sierra de Laurel./ It mentions Ojocalientillo and the Sierra of Teocaltiche. I suppose that Ojocalientillo is now the place known in Calvillo as Arroyo de ojocalientillo, and The Sierra de Teocaltiche is the Sierra of Laurel?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6SHB-K?i=286&cat=…

Aquí también se menciona a un tal José Calvillo como testigo, pariente to Lázaro Calvillo, se tratará del dueño de la hacienda se San Cristobal y de la persona que en el futuro donaría la mayoría de los terrenos para la fundación de la villa de San José de Huajucar actual Calvillo?/ There is a Jose Calvillo, related to Lázaro Calvillo, as a witness. Could he be the owner of Hacienda of San Cristobal and the landowner who later donated the land where the Village of San Jose of Huejucar, now Calvillo, was founded?

3.Don Mathias López de Carrasquilla. Juchipila y Aguascalientes. Según José Antonio Gutierrez G., en su libro "Historía De La Iglesia Católica En Aguascalientes Volumen II" nombra a Mathias López como uno de los que pasaron a ser propietarios de tierras que se les habian otorgado originalmente en 1550 a Alonzo Velasco, Diego Flores, su suegro y a Diego de los Rios. Según Antonio Gutierrez G., esas tierras que les fuerom otorgadas formarian la hacienda de Gaztambinde, o Vaquerías. / According to José Antonio Gutiérrez on his book "Historía De La Iglesia Católica En Aguascalientes Volumen II/ The History Of The Catholic Church in Aguascalientes Volume II", Mathias Lopez de Carrasquilla acquired land that was originally owned by the first european setlers Alonzo Velasco, Diego Flores, su suegro y a Diego de los Rios, which later gave rise to the Hacienda de Gaztambide, or Vaquerias in Calvillo.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-XNBV?i=360&cat=27…
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-D178?i=259&cat=27…

3. Andrés Muñoz de Hermosillo. Aguascalientes, Valle de Huajucar.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-XSHK-9?i=124&cat=…

Si alguien me puede ayudar a leer esos documentos se lo agradecería mucho, o darme tips para aprender a leerlos.

También incluyo una captura de el indice de los libros de Tierra y Agua, donde dice que hay un libro con registros de 1865, pero no lo he podido encontrar en ningún lado. Se habrá perdido y no le tomarom film? I attached a screen capture where it shows that there's supposed to be a Book number @ with all the records from 1584, but I couldn't find them.

Otra cosa es que hay más de 100 "Legajos" además de todos los libros, alguien sabe que información es esa y si hay indices? There are about a hundres books called "Legajos" I have no idea if there is an index for them too.

Could someone please transcribe the attached text after the entry of Manuel Sanchez and Juliana Sepulveda in this civel birth registration. Manuel and Juliana are the "grandparents"

thank you

I recently came across this Baptism entry in which the child is mentioned to be slave of Balthazar Correa.

-En la yga. de Tepichitlan en dose de dho mes y ano baptize y puse lo SS. Oleos y Chrisma a Jsea Rozalia, esclava de Dn. Balthazar Correa de nueve dias hija de Manuela, fue su Mna. Ju Gertrudis Segura y le adverti su oblig.n y parentesco y lo firme (firma ilegible)-

Does anyone know of other cases of slavery in Tlaltenango, Atolinga or in the region?

Saludos, I am Helping someone for the past weeks, who is searching for her father Jose Serna b. 1920 who lived in the USA but he was from Mexico. She has some Photos, and knows his Cousin was Cipriano Serna b.1896 & Dolores Valdivia. Aguascalientes, Mex.

This is Cipriano's son.
David Serna 1922-2010 Aguascalientes
https://www.geni.com/people/David-de-la-Serna-V/6000000006099737207
the Account is managed by Xavier Serna Cardenas.. which you can see there is an option to contact him, but you need a paid account. if someone has a Geni.com Account
... I'm hoping someone could use their Geni account to contact him.

This is Cipriano's other Son
Gustavo Serna 1926-2018 He worked in economics and finance as you can see in this story he was accomplished.
http://www.noticen.com.mx/2018/07/fallece-en-la-ciudad-de-mexico-gustav…

If someone has the geni account or knows how to get in touch with any of their living descendants, I hope to forward the jpg fotos she has of her father, what she believes was Cipriano's Family, The writing on the back of the photos indicate they are close relations.
Attached Foto shows her father on the far right. Jose Serna
Thank you David.

Buen día , busco referencias de la familia Plascencia, la rama mas alta de mi árbol es Franco. (Francisco) Plascencia casado con Juana Fabiana de Alcalá del Castillo. que residieron en Los ocotes( Ayo el chico) en Jalostotilán, Agradecería mucho la información, saludos.

When a marriage record say this "Ambos dispensados por el Sr. Provisor en este Obispado en la nominacion conciliar" Does it mean that there is a marriage dispensation?

Alguien sabe por que no aparece Jalostotitlan en la lista de pueblos del Censo de 1930?
gracias.

Hello,

My name is Vanessa Lopez and this is my first post. My paternal grandmother's line was relatively easy to trace through Zacatecas and Jalisco. I worked diligently to build her family tree in preparation for an upcoming family reunion in May. Every once in a while, I like to just google an ancestor. I did just that for Juan Chrisostomo Hurtado (1722-) and to my surprise, I discovered this amazing tree, https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Hurtado%20de%20Mendoza-Family-Tree-11, which extended back to Spain (a first for me in all of my 7 years of research.) I would like help in any of the following ways...

Do we share common ancestors based on this (unconfirmed) wiki tree? How do you feel about wiki trees in general? I am considering opting for a pro-genealogist to confirm this wiki tree information because 1300s Spanish genealogy is way beyond my capabilities.

Are you related to me (based on the attached tree segment)? I have my DNA on Ancestry and GedMatch ready for comparison.

What kinds of records are common in Spanish genealogy? I can read Spanish, but I'm only familiar with Mexican records and history.

Thanks for reading!

-Vanessa

I was hoping that someone within this community may have some more information on this family pre-1850s.

From my own family (and confirmed through Ancestry.com), I knew about Pedro García and his wife Maria Refugio Aguilera (1816-1901), both from Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Through one of their children's marriage certificates, I found their parents from both sides: Lorenzo García and Agapita de la Paz, and Juan Nepomuceno Aguilera (b.1775) and Maria Rosa Aguilera (b.1790).

I'm not sure if Ancestry.com is lacking in Mexican historical records, or if this time period just gets tricky to find information for. But I have not been able to find anything for Lorenzo García and Agapita de la Paz, except for their grandchild's marriage certificate they are mentioned in. Not a single record...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.