TEST SITE - DO NOT USE - Development only

Linda,

Thank you so much for all your work in sharing the Jerez records.

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Linda's Transcriptions on Jerez Baptism Records

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I would like to thank Linda Castanon-Long for being so generous in the time that she took to diligently transcribe the Jerez baptism records from the end of the 19th century. She has also been generous enough to post them on our website for all users to download and read at their leisure.

The files can be found in the Files Section under Reference Materials:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jerez_baptisms

Me gustaria darle las gracias a Linda Castanon-Long por ser tan generosa con el tiempo que ha dedicado a transcribir en forma tan diligente los registros de bautismo de Jerez, Zacatecas del fin del siglo XIX. Tambien ha sido tan generosa como para compartir las transcripciones y cargarlas a nuestro sitio para que todos los miembros puedan descargarlas y leerlas a su propio tiempo.

Los archivos se encuentran en la seccion de Archivos-Materiales de Referencia
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jerez_baptisms

Thank you Erlinda!

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Erlinda

I would also like to thank you for doing this! People like you who work so hard, and freely share your work, are the "gems of genealogy!"

You are a good role model for all of us!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Retonos de espana

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http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

Hi everybody i just wander if any one has for sale the books Retonos de espana or know were to buy them,thanks.

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Retonos de Espana en Nueva Galicia

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Luis:

Nuestros Ranchos member Rick Rodriguez runs a specialty bookstore online specializing in microhistory and genealogy books about Jalisco. He has Volumes 1 and 2 for sale in his online store. You can find the link to his store and other specialty bookstores in the Links Section of the site.

Rick Rodriguez, quien es miembro de Nuestros Ranchos tiene una libreria en linea especializando en libros de microhistoria y genealogia sobre Jalisco. El tiene los tomos 1 y 2 de venta en su tienda en linea. Puedes encontrar el vinculo a su tienda asi como a otras tiendas especializadas en temas similares en la seccion de vinculos del sitio:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

Retoños de España...

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Buenas tardes don Luis,

Le recomiendo que espere la nueva edición de Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, Mariano enriqueció mucho la obra, en diez tantos aproximadamente; conocí la primera versión impresa de esta nueva edición y le aseguro que quedará muy complacido de esta obra magna de la genealogía. Solo restaría esperar a que terminen de editarla.

Cordialmente,

Retoños de España...

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BUENAS NOCHES LEON?

LEON CREO POR SU CORREO ELECTRONICO GRACIAS POR LA SUGERENCIA, TIENE USTED ALGUNA IDEA DE CUANDO SALEN A LA VENTA, GRRACIAS TAMBIEN POR EL HONOR DE DON CREO QUE NO SOY TAN VIEJO NI TAN HONORABLE PARA MERECER EL DON,

UN SALUDO CALUROSO PARA USTED Y TODOS LOS MIEMBROS.

LUIS M GONZALEZ

________________________________
From: "leondetejada@gmail.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:18:21 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retoños de España...

Buenas tardes don Luis,

Cordialmente,

Retonos de Espana en Nueva Galicia

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HI ARTURO THANKS FOR THE ADVICE, I HAVE TRY THIS BOOK STORE, I DON'T IF IT IS MY COMPUTER , THERE IS NO WAY TO ORDER THE BOOKS, THERE IS NOTHING BUT THE HOME PAGE, I JUST CAN'T ORDER THEM, AGAIN GRACIAS.

LUIS M GONZALEZ

________________________________
From: "arturo.ramos2@gmail.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:37:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retonos de Espana en Nueva Galicia

Luis:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

Tips for Google Books

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I justed wanted to add to the group that I have used Google books for my research. I have Googled people and in fact I've been Googled.

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Tips for Google Books

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awesome! and congratulations!

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, rosehardy@hotmail.com wrote:

From: rosehardy@hotmail.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Tips for Google Books
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 5:22 PM

I justed wanted to add to the group that I have used Google books for my research. I have Googled people and in fact I've been Googled. Like any search engine it is always best to tailor your search using quote marks. It filters out the junk. While working on my last project I found that my great-great grandfather converted to the Presbyterian religion and was the first church elder in Irwindale, California around 1900. I had found OLD Presbyterian journals in Google books with articles about my g-g grandfather and pictures of the rock church, which still stands to this day.

Google books is always worth a try and if you can't view the book online, at least you have the book information and try to order it on interlibrary loan through the local

Where to buy a copy of Montejano's Sagrada Mitra

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I am looking to buy a copy of La Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara by Luz Montejano Hilton but George Farias' bookstore (Borderlands Books) no longer has it available and I cannot seem to find it anywhere.

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Luz Montejano Book

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I got a message from George Farias at Borderlands Books telling me that he has been trying to contact Luz Montejano for some time now to get more copies of the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara but has not been successful. If someone has a way of contacting her, please let George and me know.

Where to buy a copy of Montejano's Sagrada Mitra

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I do not know where to find the book but there is a search that you can do
to see if your surname is in the book and how many times it is mentioned. It
looks like it is pretty reliable but I am not sure because I did a search
for Avila and the search said there were 30 pages where Avila was mentioned
but the index in the back of the book has 46 individuals. Some of the
individuals appear on the same page but I am not about to go through the
whole list to see how reliable this search is. Regardless, here is the URL
in case you want to try it out:
http://books.google.com/books?id=r05mAAAAMAAJ&q=avila&pgis=1

Saludos desde Salt Lake City, Utah

Luz Montejano's book

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Eduardo:

Thank you for the link. I did not know that the book was up on Google books. I have a copy of the book but being able to search through the scan may prove useful nevertheless.

That being said, the book is not for me. It is for the microhistorian (cronista) of Totatiche who is a very diligent researcher who has published numerous books and spent immeasurable hours at archives in Guadalajara, which have benefited me and many other genealogy researchers of the region immensly. He wants a copy that he can hold and sift through as he is so good at doing and given the great debt I owe him, I was hoping to get him one.

Luz Montejano's book on Google Books

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Arturo,

I want to clarify and I am sorry if I somehow said something misleading: Google Books is not showing the images of Luz Montejano's book, just a few small sections of the page where the surname appears. There are no full page images, (that would probably be a copyright infringement.) However, Google books has made a sort of index of the surnames that is accessible online. Searches: return the amount of pages where the surname appears in the book. So once someone knows that their surname appears in the book then they can search the actual book or have someone search it for them.

I hope this helps to understand what Google books has and has not done with Luz Montejano's book.

Saludos desde Lago Salado,

Eduardo H Seoane

Google Books

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I just learned about Google Books at a lecture by a person that runs the web site googleyourfamilytree.com. He is not affiliated with Google in any way but he has a lot of great hints on how to use Google to research your family history-mostly free since Google doesn't charge for most features. One thing that may be of assistance to us is that if you are looking for a book on a specific subject you can go straight to Google books and weed out everything (like sites, images, etc)but books which decreases your number of hits. If they have the book, they may have the entire book or just pages but since it's in pdf format you can do a keyword search and it will highlight your words. This is especially helpful if the book is in a language in which you are not fluent. This is probably basic stuff for experienced researchers but for newbies/"nuevas" (is that correct?)like me it was helpful information that I would like to pass on.
Sherri Mora

Luz Montejano's book

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Arturo,

Luz Montejano Hilton posts lots of messages in the various message boards. She lives in Mexico City and probably someone at the Archives there can tell you how to contact her. She might even be able to get a copy or lend a copy to the cronista. She used to e-mail me back, but then she stopped, and I never heard from her again. She only speaks Spanish even though her surname is not Hispanic.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luz Montejano's book

Eduardo:

Thank you for the link. I did not know that the book was up on Google books. I have a copy of the book but being able to search through the scan may prove useful nevertheless.

That being said, the book is not for me. It is for the microhistorian (cronista) of Totatiche who is a very diligent researcher who has published numerous books and spent

Search surnames in book: Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara

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I do not know where to find the book but there is a search that you can do to see if your surname is in the book and how many times it is mentioned. It looks like it is pretty reliable but I am not sure because I did a search for Avila and the search said there were 30 pages where Avila was mentioned but the index in the back of the book has 46 individuals. Some of the individuals appear on the same page but I am not about to go through the whole list to see how reliable this search is. Regardless, here is the URL in case you want to try it out: http://books.google.com/books?id=r05mAAAAMAAJ&q=avila&pgis=1

Saludos desde Salt Lake City, Utah

Diego Machado Rengel

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Good Evening,

Does anyone have any information on Diego Machado Rengel born in Fresnillo, Zacatecas about 1626. His parents were Capitan Hernando Machado and Maria Bernal.

Research Digest, Vol 40, Issue 15

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Thanks----Gloria Lopez

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From: "research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
To: research@lists.NuestrosRanchos.

Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotlán)

Forums

Hi all I have this couple Felipe Navarro (ca. 1730) Ma. Rosalía de Guzmán (ca. 1735) who had Ma. San Juan baptized 6 jul 1763 who married Juan de Aceves?

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Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotlán)

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Sunday, May 17, 2009

Dear Daniel--

I checked your names with what I had in Ayo el Chico and could find nothing. Sorry.

Patricia Burton
San Diego

--- On Sat, 5/16/09, mendezdelcamino@live.com wrote:

> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotlán)
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 10:41 PM
> Hi all I have this couple Felipe Navarro (ca. 1730) Ma.
> Rosalía de Guzmán (ca. 1735) who had Ma. San Juan baptized
> 6 jul 1763 who married Juan de Aceves? Does anyonehave info
> on this people who have focused on Ayo Elchico or its
> surroundsings Arandas, Tepatitlán, La Barca etc..? Were
> talking from 1730 or so to the late 1700's with this
> family? Many thanks? -Daniel Camino

Canuta Padilla Gallo

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Hola de nuevo y gracias por su paciencia para conmigo. Quiero agradecerte Irma por tu informacion. Y bueno platicarte que tu mama y mi papa son primos hermanos mi papa es hijo de Ygnacio Gtz.

Canuta padilla gallo

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Hola de nuevo y gracias por la informacion que me han ofrecido puntual, sobre mi bisabuelo benigno gutierez padilla. Ahora mi duda es con respecto a la madre de el. Canuta Padilla Gallo.

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Atanacio o Antonio Padilla

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Cheque:

Para responder a tu pregunta toca saber si has visto los registros si mismos o estas basando los nombres que mencionas solamente de las transcripciones de otros o de la base de datos de los mormones.

Si seriamente quieres tener informacion correcta toca pedir los rollos correspondientes y leerlos en si. Es muy posible que el voluntario que transcribio el bautismo de Maria Canuta Padilla haya leido mal el registro pero no podras saber eso sin leerlo tu mismo. Ademas es posible que el cura o el escribano "se le chispotio" y puso el nombre mal.

Segun la base de datos de los mormones, el matrimonio de los padres de Maria Canuta que se celebro el 6 de mayo de 1809, el novio se llamaba Anastacio asi que ahora tienes tres nombres...

benigno gutierrez padilla

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Hola saludos a todos los miembros de este grupo tan importante en genealogia. mi bisabuelo fue benigno gutierrez padilla de san juan de los lagos. el cual nacio el 13 de febrero de 1842.

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benigno gutierrez padilla

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Hola, no sé si tienes este dato? -Daniel Camino

José Santa Ana Gutiérrez, hijo de Ignacio Gutiérrez y Salomé Gutiérrez

Canuta Padilla, hija de Antonio de Padilla y Francisca Pérez del Gallo

casaron 1 oct 1839

en Jalostotitlán

José Ana se bautizó 28 JUL 1815 en San Juan de los Lagos.

. VICTORIANO GUTIERREZ - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Birth: El Tule, , , Mexico

2. SEVERIANO GUTIERREZ - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Birth: El Rancho Del Tule

3. JOSE ANA GUTIERRES - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Birth: El Tule

4. JOSE FRANCO. GUTIERRES GUTIERRES - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 09 MAY 1814 San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico

5. JOSE ANA GUTIERRES GUTIERRES - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1815 San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico

6. JOSE SEBERIANO GUTIERRES GUTIERRES - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender

Benigno Gutierrez Padilla

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Cheque:

La base de datos de los Mormones en http://www.familysearch.org tiene lo siguiente. Es la fecha del bautismo. Si quieres saber por seguro, toca que leas el rollo tu mismo. Dira cuantos dias tenia de nacido el niño y asi podras deducir la fecha de nacimiento. Tambien tendra los nombres de los abuelos y de los padrinos... informacion bastante importante.

BENIGNO GUTIERS. PADILLA
Christening: 16 FEB 1842
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JOSE ANA GUTIERS.
Mother: CANUTA PADILLA
Batch No.: C603397 1840 - 1843 Film No. 0220657

Puedes usar la base de datos de rollos de microfilmacion de este sitio para ir direcatamente a algun libro de registros de un pueblo en particular para una fecha en particular. Yo asi encontre este registro bastante facil.

Searches of Roland Medellin Romo

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I have a paternal grandfather (Andres A. Romo) that is from Teocaltiche, Jalisco.

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Searches of Roland Medellin Romo

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Rolando,

I did some looking on FamilySearch, and this is what I have been able to
find.

Ahnentafel Chart for Andres A. Romo

First Generation
1. Andres A. Romo was born in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.

Second Generation
2. Claro Romo .Claro married Crisanta Aguilera.
3. Crisanta Aguilera .

Third Generation
4. Jose Bernabe ROMO DIAZ was born in Cienega. He was christened on 26
Jun 1811 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Maria de Jesus
Moran Aguilera on 5 Feb 1837 in Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico.
5. Maria de Jesus Moran Aguilera .

Fourth Generation
8. JOSE YGNO. ROMO MORAN was christened on 18 Jun 1788 in La
Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Maria de Jesus
Dias on 25 Nov 1807 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.

9. Maria de Jesus Dias .

Fifth Generation
16. JOSE MARIA ROMO DE VIVAR .JOSE married Maria MORAN on 30 Jan 1782 in
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco

Thank You

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Jonathan - I greatly appreciate your contribution. You are very skilled in searching. I was giving up hope in getting more names on my tree. I am encouraged.

Rolando

SLC

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Announcements and Events

I was so encouraged by a posting that others may be visiting the research center in June that I made travel arrangements and reservations for June 17 thru 20. I am a novice to geneology and

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Mispelled names

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I actually start searching the state of interest with all of the combinations of names that I can think of. As many of you know there are letters that are interchangeable like Z & S, V & B etc... I was looking for an Alvares on pilot. FAmilySearch.org and finally found the individual of interest spelled as Flvares so when you look in databases do not expect to find the names spelled correctly. As soon as I am finished with the state I search the whole country.

Mispelled names

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Not only that but sometimes the first names are wrong. My grandfather was
registered as Cirilo Chavez and his name was Daniel Chavez. I did not
find him in the index but as I went through the entire year, record by record,
I found twp Cirilo Chavez and one of them the parents were my great
grandparents. It happened that same day so the judge just got confused or
whatever and wrote Cirilo again.

In a message dated 5/9/2009 9:46:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com writes:

I actually start searching the state of interest with all of the
combinations of names that I can think of. As many of you know there are letters
that are interchangeable like Z & S, V & B etc... I was looking for an Alvares
on pilot. FAmilySearch.org and finally found the individual of interest
spelled as Flvares so when you look in databases do not expect to find the
names spelled correctly. As soon as I am finished with the state I search the
whole country.

Mispelled names

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I haven't been following this thread until just now but I wanted to
add that my father had an Aunt Sara, whom I never met but had heard of
all my childhood. I could never find any documentation on her but
when I did, in Texas Deaths 1890-1975 in the Family Search Pilot, my
great-grandmother's name was spelled Francius rather than Francisca
and my great-grandfather's name was spelled Senobio, whereas, I've
also seen in official documents as Zenobio and Cenobio. However, in
the official death certificate, my great-grandmother's name is spelled
correctly. Apparently, it's the transcriber who couldn't read it
properly. Marge:)

On May 10, 2009, at 1:49 PM, MecheChavez@aol.com wrote:

SLC trip

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Here are a few more suggestions:

1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free and normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the afternoon. They only let you order five and sometimes six or seven per day. I have a friend who sometimes uses other peoples name to order extra films, (I am not condoning nor recommending this). As others have mentioned once the films are at the library they stay at the library indefinitely.

2. Check the Family History Library Catalog to verify what is there and what needs to be ordered. If the Film says FHL then it is already at the library. However if the film that you need says VAULT, then you need to order it so that it will be waiting for you.

3. Not all of the books are out on the floor so if you find a particular book that you want to read that is not in the regular stacks you can go to the "access services window" (library attendant window) and ask for the book they will then retrieve the item for you, the

SLC trip

Comment

On May 8, 2009, at 12:00 AM, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com wrote:

> Here are a few more suggestions:
>
> 1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free
> and normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the
> afternoon. They only let you order five and sometimes six or seven
> per day. I have a friend who sometimes uses other peoples name to
> order extra films, (I am not condoning nor recommending this). As
> others have mentioned once the films are at the library they stay at
> the library indefinitely.

I have the telephone number that you can call to order the film before
you arrive. If you tell them you are coming to SLC for a short period
of time and are from out of town......especially if you are from out
of STATE.......they will allow you to order more than the usual five
film. I have done this in the past and have requested as many as 25
or so! If you like, I can furnish the telephone number next week
since I am still

SLC trip

Comment

Josie,
This is great! I'll be looking for the telephone number. Have a safe trip back.
Thank you.
Raymond Medrano

--- On Fri, 5/8/09, Josie T. Trevino wrote:

From: Josie T. Trevino
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC trip
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com
Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 8:18 AM

On May 8, 2009, at 12:00 AM, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com wrote:

> Here are a few more suggestions:
>
> 1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free and
normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the afternoon. They
only let you order five and sometimes six or seven per day. I have a friend who
sometimes uses other peoples name to order extra films, (I am not condoning nor
recommending this). As others have mentioned once the films are at the library
they stay at the library indefinitely.

I have the telephone number that you can call to order the film before you
arrive. If you tell them you are coming to SLC for a short period of

SLC trip

Comment

Raymond,

The number for the B1 (International Floor) Attendants window, where you
order the microfilm is 801-240-2334. They'll help you out there.

Jonathan

--------- Original Message --------
From: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC trip
Date: 05/09/09 16:17

> Josie,
> This is great!ï¿½ I'll be looking for the telephone number.ï¿½ Have a safe
trip back.
> Thank you.
> Raymond Medrano
>
> --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Josie T. Trevino wrote:
>
> From: Josie T. Trevino
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC trip
> To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com
> Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 8:18 AM
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 12:00 AM, EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Here are a few more suggestions:
> >
> > 1. At the family history Library the films that you order are free
and
> normally arrive the day after you order them around two in the afternoon.
They
> only let you

Visiting Salt Lake City

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That is great to hear that there appears to be a Nuestros Ranchos impromptu reunion in the making. I must say my first trip to Salt Lake was such a great experience thanks to Mickey, Josie, Kitty, Rich and all of the other Ranchos members that I met there.

Some recommendations for your trip:

1. Have a research plan... it is very easy to spend entire days going from film to film and not focusing or achieving much in terms of gathering new information. I have done two types of trips... one where where I had very specific records I wanted to look up so I compiled a list of films, names, etc. and another where I had two films I wanted to read from beginning to end (and scan as much as possible).

2. Make sure that the Library has the films that you will need. Many films are still sitting in the Vault and have to be ordered to the library which can take up to a week. If you notify the Library of the dates that you will be there and what films you will need from the vault, they will

Visiting Salt Lake City

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Arturo
You can send a list of films needed before you go to SLC

Mickey

dated 5/7/2009 7:19:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
arturo.ramos2@gmail.com writes:

That is great to hear that there appears to be a Nuestros Ranchos
impromptu reunion in the making. I must say my first trip to Salt Lake was such a
great experience thanks to Mickey, Josie, Kitty, Rich and all of the other
Ranchos members that I met there.

Some recommendations for your trip:

1. Have a research plan... it is very easy to spend entire days going from
film to film and not focusing or achieving much in terms of gathering new
information. I have done two types of trips... one where where I had very
specific records I wanted to look up so I compiled a list of films, names,
etc. and another where I had two films I wanted to read from beginning to
end (and scan as much as possible).

2. Make sure that the Library has the films that you will need. Many
films are still sitting in the Vault

SLC

Comment

Talk about enthusiasm, I'm really looking forward to visiting the research center. Thanks to Arturo, Alicia, and Eduardo, your guidance and many helpful suggestions are like tools in the hands of a master, or in this case, a novice.
I have a few film numbers that I will order in advance. The areas and dates of interest so far are:

1874-1877..El Senor Del Encino, Aguas (Crescencio Medrano)

1852...San Jose De Garcia, Rincon de Romos, Aguas (Antonia Guerrero Vasques)

1857..Julia Valdez Rosales, San Pable, Galeana, Nuevo Leon,

1876..Ygnacio Medrano, Sagrario Metropolitano, Oaxaca De Juarez, Oaxaca,

1857..Crecencio Medrano Carrillo, La Inmaculada Comcepcion, Matehuala, SLPotosi,

1852..Cresencio Medrano Urea, Zacoalco De Torres, Jalisco,

1852..Cresencio Medrano Delgadillo, Mexticacan, Jalisco,

about 1895 Gomez Palacio, Ignacio (Ygnacio) Medrano and Maria Delgadillo Prieto,marriage

This jumps around in locations, but trying to isolate possibilities. I had no idea there

SLC

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Hi Raymond, Just some helpful words, you dont need to order any Aguascalientes film, you can view all films the church has for Aguascalientes 1616-1964, all types of records, just go to www.familysearchlabs.org , same with all Chihuahua films for 1632-1965. Just thought you could use those $12 or so for other films! Sometimes, genealogy gets to the point with so much moving around, there has to be trial and error in checking places. -Daniel Camino

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Quality of online digital vs. Microfilm

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Daniel,

The microfilm image is usually better than the online digital image, so they might want to make a digital copy while in SLC.

La imagen de la micropelícula usualmente es mejor que la imagen digital en línea, entonces quizás quieran hacer una copia digital mientras están en SLC (Lago Salado).

SLC

Comment

Raymond,
You mentioned "trying to isolate possibilities". Hate to throw in one more thing, but I just wanted to share what happened to me recently. By sheer luck (wrong key stroke)I found several records of relatives in Bajio de San Jose which is part of Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco. These were family members that through oral family history were "from Aguascalientes". I believe that I never found them before because I would filter out "Jalisco" for that side of the family. Sort of unrelated but maybe helpful, I also found records by NOT correcting misspelled names and letting the search go through.
Sherri Mora

SLC

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I have found many people doing exactly the same thing. My mistakes at first were from my lousy typing. I soon learned that my lousy typing was a gift from heaven. I have also found family members that were from aguascalientes registered in encarnacion de diaz.
Rick

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SLC trip

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Raymond, what other information do you have on your ancestor, family members time frame etc....

Research for hire

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Por este medio quisiera informarle al grupo de Nuestros Ranchos que estoy en
el proceso de agregar nuevos clientes/proyectos y me presento formalmente:

Soy consultor de investigaciones genealógic

DUDA APELLIDOS 1800

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Buenas noches, tengo muchas dudas y a ver si pueden ayudarme.

Jose Felix Macias Hernandez
Nacio en El Salitre, Zacatecas
Padre Miguel Macias.
Madre Cristina Hernandez
22 de nov 1827 lo bautizar

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Duda Apellidos: Muñoz, Macias

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Felix:

El apellido nunca cambio. Si entiendo bien tu mensaje dices que tu bisabuelo se llamaba José Felix Muñoz, pero que en su acta de bautismo? nacimiento? aparece con el apellido Macias.

En mi experiencia, las actas de bautismo muchas veces no llevan apellido, solamente el nombre del niño y de los padres. Los voluntarios que extraen la información asumen (por razones culturales) que el niño lleva el apellido del padre. Pero antes de las reformas borbonicas a principios de los 1800s no había sistema estructurado de apellidos en el mundo hispanoparlante. La gente llevaba el apellido del padre, de la madre o a veces hasta el de abuelos o vecinos.

La abuela de tu bisabuelo se apellidaba Muñoz. Es probable que Miguel Macias se llamara Miguel Muñoz y el padre por pereza o confusión le haya puesto Macias en la acta. Así que el nombre de tu bisabuelo siempre fue Muñoz pero por confusión o pereza hay actas donde los curas (o más bien los escribanos de la iglesia o hasta los

Sánchez de Mendoza

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Does anyone have anyinfo on this couple, I have not been able to order it yet becuae I have 5 films already at the FHC.

Andrea Sánchez de Mendoza
Juan de Villaseñor y Orozco

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Sánchez de Mendoza

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I do not know who the Ygnacio Sánchez de Mendoza who is having children in Jalostotitlán is, but it looks like he might be a brother of Andrea's. This would need to be verified.

Name: Maria Antonia Sanches De La Bas
Gender: Female
Christening date: 03 May 1729
Christening place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION, JALOSTOTITLAN, JALISCO, MEXICO
Residence: Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father name: Ygnacio Sanches De Mendosa
Father birth place:
Age of father:
Mother name: Maria Masemiliana De La Bas
Mother birth place:
Mother age:
Batch number: C60320-3
Date range: 1721 - 1735
Record group: Mexico-VR
Film number: 279255
Collection: Mexico Baptisms 1700-1900

I also found a child of Andreas but you will have to verify the information on the film, you might already have this information. Wow almost nine months to the day! You might want to look up the batch number on FamilySearch.org, IGI to see other individuals from that town that were christened during the Date Range of 1721 -1735

Sánchez de Mendoza

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Thanks Eduardo, Ignacio (he appears as Sánchez de Hermosillo) is son of Melchor Sánchez de Mendoza and Gertrudis Muñoz de Hermosillo. I found his marriage to María de la Paz 2 Feb 1728 in Jalos. Ill prob just order the marriage for Andrea, through Salt Lake just the scan or copy, so I wont have to order the entire film. Thanks for the baptism of J. Antonio, didnt have that. -Daniel

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Sánchez de Mendoza

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Did you notice the name of the father is slightly different on J. Antonios' baptism from the information you had provided?

Sánchez de Mendoza

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Yeah its him though, im not sure if its a compound name or he just used both his parents names?

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Historia de Aguascalientes History - Enlace / Link

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Hi all:

De esta juria

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"de esta juris" = from this jurisdiction

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Salt Lake City research trip anyone??

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Announcements and Events

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Members:

I'm planning a trip to SLC in June or July, I can be flexible on the date and am looking for a female travel partner to SLC.

If any nuestros ranchos ladies are in

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wish I were going

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I can recommend a great place for dinner- One World Cafe. Delicious, abundant, organic, and affordable -you pay what you can. See their website.

Salt Lake City research trip anyone??

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alicia
how long are you considering the trip?

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Salt Lake City research trip anyone??
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 2:46 PM

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Members:

I'm planning a trip to SLC in June or July, I can be flexible on the date and am looking for a female travel partner to SLC.

If any nuestros ranchos ladies are interested, please let me know.

Of course any gentlemen can go too, I'm just looking for a roommate and travel buddy but if a group of people go, male or female and meet up there, that would also be great.

If interested, you can contact me off-line at alliecar@pacbell.net.

Regards,
Alicia, San Jose, Calif

Salt Lake City research trip anyone??

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Yolanda,
I work full time, therefore am only able to take 4 working days plus Saturday to do research, that would be 5 days total of research.

Possible days for me would be Tuesday June 16, through June 20th for research Return home on Sunday June 21st.

I would travel to Salt Lake the evening of Monday June 15th, check in and be ready to do research at 8:00 AM Tuesday morning.

Let me know what you think. my cell phone is 408 761-2378, work 408 522-043, home evenings, 408 997-3753

Regards,
Alicia

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alicia
how long are you considering the trip?

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos

Salt Lake City research trip anyone??

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Alicia there is a Spanish research series planned for Saturday May 30th
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/Education/frameset_education.as…
but
you are probably way beyond the classes that will be taught. Anyway good
luck on your trip, who knows I might happen to be there that week also.

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai married on May 17 1693 in Aguascalientes. Parents of the groom are not listed. Sebastiana is daughter of Joseph Delgado and Francisca Gabai.

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Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Jaime I have a Andres Thadeo De Puga married to Maria Estefania Calvillo,
this Andres is my husband ggggggrandfather. Some of the childrens church
records are listed as "mulatos libres", which I belive the parents where
also mulatos. I am trying to find more information on Andres Thadeo De Puga
and Maria Estefania Calvillo, his dauther Maria Antonia De Puga was born in
Ojocaliente, Zacatecas and the last 3 children are born in Aguascalientes.
Let me know where I can find more information on the Puga Family.
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

> Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai married on May 17 1693 in
> Aguascalientes. Parents of the groom are not listed. Sebastiana is
> daughter of Joseph Delgado and Francisca Gabai. Does any one has
> additional information, specifically what is the relationship of Francisca
> to Ana Francisca Gabay, wife of Lope

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Jaime,

Early Aguascalientes records (1600-1700) indicate that most people with the
surname PUGA were mulatos, moriscos or mestizos. Obviously, their ancestors
did not arrive from Spain, but were slaves or servants who used the surname
provided by their owners or employers. The case of Andrés de Puga, married
to Sebastiana Delgado Tiscareño (aka Sebastiana Delgado Gabai) seems to be
different. His marriage information indicates that he was born in
Guadalajara, a child born out of wedlock. His descendants, five of them born
in Aguascalientes between 1694-1704, were all identified as "españoles". I
have the following children in my database:

1. Joseph Manuel b. 1694
2. María b. 1695
3. Theresa b. 1700
5. Joseph b. 1702
5. Anna María b. 1704 m. Luis de la Torre 1717. Their daughter Emiliana
Isabel de la Torre was baptized 20 July 1718 in Aguascalientes. Her
godparents were Andrés de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado.

Sebastiana Delgado was buried in Aguascalientes on 11 Aug 1735

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Jaime

I found the matrimonial investigation for Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado.

My rather poor Spanish makes it hard to read, but I believe it says in part:

"Andres de Puga, Espanol natural de la Cuidad de Guadalaxa y vezino de esta Villa mas tiempo de ocho anos hijo natural de Antonio Cosin presco ..."

I am pretty sure it says "hijo natural de Antonio" and not "hijo natural de Antonia". I believe the last name is "Cosin" but this does not sound Spanish to me.

It continues

"con Sebastiana Delgado espanola natural y vezino desta Jurisdicion hija lexitima de Joseph Delgado difunto y de Franca Gabay y para que ..."

The others providing statements are Nicolas de Puga, Pedro (I believe, this written on the interior margin of the page so not all the letters are readable) Romo, and Diego Delgado,

The marriage record for Joseph Delgado and Francsica Gabai states ...

"Joseph Delgado nl y vecina de Pinos hijo de Diego Delgado y Jua Dias ... con Franca Gabadi nl de [I'm not

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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George and Daniel,
I read the informacion matrimonial for Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado. There is very valuable information there. For one thing there ages are listed,
and thus Andres was born around 1667 and Sebstiana in 1668. Also, regarding Andres, his uncle Nicolas de Puga, listed as mulato, is a witness for the groom.
Nicolas de Puga was married to Maria de Sandi (married 3 October, 1677, in Aguascalientes), got their marriage record, but have not been able to locate their marriage information.Nicolas and Maria had a, a child named Nicolas de Puga Sandi (christened 23 SEP 1685 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes) also listed as mulato. Interestingly ,
Lorenzo Ruiz de Esparza, son of Lope and Francisca Gabai, in his second marriage married Josepha de Sandi a month earlier than Nicolas and Maria. Are Maria and Joseph sisters?

Jaime

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Hi Jaime, its Daniel, lets see if I can explain w/o confusing you. I have all sources if needed,

Sebastiana Delgado de Gabay casó Andrés de Puga, hija de José Delgado y Francisca (II) Navarro de Gabay utilizó el mismo apellido de su abuela. Francisca Navarro de Gabay es hija de Luís Tiscareño de Molina y Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza, quien es hija de don Lope (II) Ruiz de Esparza y Ana Francisca (I) Navarro de Gabay. Im sure youre aware about Lorenza de Esparza being used as descendants names. There's a lots of Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza, etc. So to answer your question Sebastiana would be Lope's great grandaughter, he had MANY grandchildren as you may know! I hope this helps, I think I have some stuff on Andrés but need to check! -Daniel

Andres de Puga

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Daniel

I think we have the same information! If you have the matrimonial investigation of Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado, how do you read Andres de Puga's father's (or mother's?) name? I have not seen a record where only a father's name is given, but it looks much more like "Antonio" than "Antonia" to me.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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Hi George could you tell me exactly what page # out of ??? which film in the Aguascalientes section of the pilot site? I have a lot of experience reading the stuff on the pilot already, maybe I can take shot at it. Well the Andrés Puga is as long as he IS español he should be related to the same Pugas stated from Guadalajara. The family was originally ''de Puga y Aguilar'' they married into my d'Bourbon ancestors in Guadalajara. Im still trying to figure out the Bourbon i know theyre french obviously but no luck with tracing it further than ca. 1609.
-Daniel

For Daniel and Jaime: Andres de Puga

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Daniel, Jaime

I am going to e-mail the pages from the matrimonial investigation for Andres de Puga. It is for the year 1693, and the entry starts on folio page 136, and goes for four folio pages.

My e-mail is aol and this is sometimes a problem with large files. The images are about 2 Mb each. If you do not receive them, please let me know.

Daniel, if you can connect Andres with other de Puga families in Guadalajara, please let me know, and I will send them individually.

These files could be a start to unravel the Gabai/Navarro/Moctezuma connections! Perhaps we should start an Album for this data.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

For Daniel and Jaime: Andres de Puga

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Thanks George,

Looking forward to receive the files.

Jaime Alvarado

For Jaime and George

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Its definately, Cosín, I was studying the priest's writing! I ran it up on family search and there is some in Spain very little though mostly in Valencia. The interesting part your right it doesnt sound spanish! There seems to be alot of COUSIJN in the Netherlands, so they could be Dutch, We got to remember the Netherlands were part of Spain along with most of Europe during th 1500-1600's. Tha Habsburgs owned most of Europe. This could explain how it got to Spain. I thought of a possibly story whats not to say Antonio (by the way its definately ANTONIO for Andrés' father. Was dutch who traveled to Méjico? New Spain had hundreds of thousands of Europeans emiigrating! Germans, Portuguese, Italians, English, French, Spaniards, Danish, etc! An example My Friend, Liliana Ford, who is a Mexican of English descent. I didnt even know English went to New Spain. According to her dad, their family arrived prior to the Mexican Independence, what interesting things come up when doing genealogy! Ill

Andres de Puga

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Daniel and Jaime

I'm glad the files came through OK; AOL can be a challenge!

I'm glad you're agreeing with my reading of these documents, I'm learning to read them!

You raise some interesting points. I have a friend who is of Portuguese descent (from the Azores), and many people there have Flemish ancestors. He verified this through a DNA test. Perhaps de Puga is of Portuguese/Fleming extraction?

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Andres de Puga

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George,

According to the Dictionary of American Family Names the surname PUGA is of
Galician origin.

Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN
0-19-508137-4
Galician: nickname from puga 'thorn', 'prickle', probably in the figurative
sense 'sharp', 'clever'.

Bill Figueroa

Andres de Puga

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Bill,
I found a webpage of the Puga family in Chile (http://www.fmlapugaenchile.cl/). The first Puga
Alferez Alonso de Puga y Novoa Lazo y Mongrovejo
arrived in Chile from Galicia in 1618.

Jaime

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres de Puga

George,

According to the Dictionary of American Family Names the surname PUGA is of
Galician origin.

Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN
0-19-508137-4
Galician: nickname from puga 'thorn', 'prickle', probably in the figurative
sense 'sharp', 'clever'.

Bill Figueroa

de Puga surname origins

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Bill

Thank you for the clarification!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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George and Daniel,
Thanks a lot for the information about Andres and Sebastiana.George, I searched for the Informacion Matrimonial but could not find it (gave up after hitting months and years in the wrong order). Stuart, in what page of the year 1693 did you find it? I would like to download the images.

Once again,

Thanks

Jaime Alvarado

Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Sebastiana Delgado is the daughter of
Joseph Delgado-Gabai and Francisca
Tiscareno de Molina y Esparza, AKA
Francisca Navarro de Gabai

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Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Pilar,
I just recently stumbled with my Puga ancestral line via Andres de Puga (b. 1667) and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai. In the marriage information (1693), provided by George Fulton, Andres is listed as Espanol and the natural son of Antonio Cosin. Further, Andres' uncle, Nicolas de Puga, is listed as mulato in his 40's (44?) at the time of the wedding. Nicolas married (3 October, 1677, in Aguascalientes) Maria de Sandi, and had at least on child, Nicolas de Puga Sandi (christened 23 SEP 1685 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes) also mulato.
The timeline of Andres Thadeo de Puga and Maria Estefania appears to be latter. I found two of their children (below). The dates suggest that Andres Thadeo and Maria Estefania married around 1750, and were born around the 1730s. Accordingly, Andres Thadeo would be roughly the same age of the grandchildren of Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado ( born between 1718-1738). Was Andres Thadeo his greatnephew from the line of Nicolas de Puga?

MARIA ROSALIA

Andres Puga

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Hi Jaime,
Thank you for the information! I also have Maria Rosalia and Joseph Fernando
Raphael. I have 6 more children, starting w/ Andres Antonio De Puga
Calvillo as "mulato libre", his christening on 28 dec 1747 on San Nicolas,
Zacatecas, Antonio Thadeo & Maria Calvillo are listed ad Mulatos. Then I
have Maria Rosalia born on 1752. there is the story of the twins girls, the
first one is Maria Antonia "cipanda" (light shade of brown) born on 19 of
April and Christening on the 30 of April 1765. Her sister Maria Antonia
Magdalena christening on May 3rd 1765, born 11 days before and Andres Tadeo
& Maria Calvillo are listed as "Españoles"(meaning they were white). After
then I haveJoseph Miguel Puga "mulato" born 27 sep 1758 in La Vaqueria,
Zacatecas.Next, Joseph Fernado born on 31 May 1770 "mestiso"in
Aguascalientes and the last one is Maria Eusebia De Puga born on 05 Nov 1772
in Aguascalientes, christening on 11 Nov 1772.
According to the priest who did the christening is

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Bill,
Thanks very much for the info. My information regarding the children of Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado coincides with yours. In fact, my line actually is that of Anna Maria and Luis de la Torre. In addition to Emiliana I also have Pedro Benito de la Torre (b.21 march 1738) and Andres de la Torre (have not been able to find his christening record). Andres de la Torre married Ana Lucrecia Macias Valadez, daughter of Nicolas Macias Valadez and Gertrudis Macias (I am stuck here).
Regarding Luis de la Torre (b. 23 Dic 1699) I have his parents as Pedro de la Torre (b. 27 march 1673) and Manuela Macias Valades. Pedro was son of Luis de la Torre and Mariana Hernadez (m. 2 feb 1652), they had at least 7 children. I have ot been able to find their marriage information to get more info about Luis and Mariana's parents (so I'm also stuck here).

Jaime

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai

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Jaime,

Mariana Hernández, aka Mariana Gutiérrez de Valdivia, was the daughter of
Juan Gutiérrez de Valdivia and Mariana Hernández. She preferred to use her
mother's name. Her mother was buried 17 Sep 1666 in Aguascalientes.
Mariana married Luis de la Torre 2 Feb 1652. Their children were Juan,
María, Luisa, Casilda, Bernarda, Pedro and Christobal de la Torre. I do not
have any info. on Luis de la Torre's parents.

Bill Figueroa

Luis de la Torre

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To all:

Finding information on Luis de la Torre's parent's may not be possible ...

His marriage record (which is in the Aguascalientes records at the Family Search Pilot, 2 Feb 1652) says "... Luis de la Torre espanol hijo de la iglecia ..." I am unsure about the next words, but they may be "de esta Juris ..." It continues "con Maria Hernandes espanola hija legitima de Jn Gutierres difunto y de Mariana Hernandes su muger ..."

Does this mean he was left at the Church as a baby?

His birth may have been around 1630. This puts his birth in a period were there are very, very few baptismal records, according to Family Search

The matrimonial investigations at Family SEearch Pilot start after the date of his marriages.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Luis de la Torre

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George,
Hijo de la Iglesia, is likely that he was left at the Church as a baby. So I guess we will never know who were his parents. The words "de esta Juris.." most likely mean "of this jurisdiction". Now even if records were complete, often those babies will be baptized without a surname, who often was adopted later in life. Would you mind sending me the jpg?

Thanks

Jaime
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To all:

Finding information on Luis de la Torre's parent's may not be possible ...

For Jaime

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Hi Daniel,

I'm confused...My original question was about Maria Luisa De San Ygnacio
Gomez De Mendoza (Jalostotitilan born abt. 27 Jun 1792). Is there a link to
her marrying Candido De Aguayo, Father to Agapito De Aguayo (born
abt.1807)???

Thanks, Jaime Gonzalez

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Hi Jaime, its Daniel, lets see if I can explain w/o confusing you. I have
all sources if needed,

Hotmail/MSN/Live

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It seems that the trouble people have been having with receiving emails
is due to Hotmail/MSN/Live.com putting a block on our Internet Service
Provider - Dreamhost.

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Joseph,

I just got off the line with the MSN specialist and they said I should start receiving your e-mails within the next 24 hours, and if not, that he would get his research team to work with Dreamhost on the problem.

Thanks,
Emilie

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Emilie many many thanks for taking the time to do this. I think this
will help tremendously for both sides to be "motivated" to get the
problem resolved. It is unfortunate that it is happening at all but
things like this happen from time to time.

Many thanks for your efforts.

joseph

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> Joseph,
>
> I just got off the line with the MSN specialist and they said I should
> start receiving your e-mails within the next 24 hours, and if not,
> that he would get his research team to work with Dreamhost on the
> problem.
>
> Thanks

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Joseph,

I also use dreamhost to host my sites and I remember having the same problem
a couple of years ago with my @msn.com email. Dreamhost tried for a few days
to solve this problem and were unable to fix this issue with MSN, so I had
to switch to a @gmail.com email. I haven't had any problems since.

Just thought you should know.

Rick

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Many thanks for your efforts.

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E-mails

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Thank you Joseph and every one responsible,I now receive e-mails

Ronnie Reynoso

> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:23:07 -0400
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Re MSN Live/Dreamhost
>
> Emilie many many thanks for taking the time to do this. I think this
> will help tremendously for both sides to be "motivated" to get the
> problem resolved. It is unfortunate that it is happening at all but
> things like this happen from time to time.
>
> Many thanks for your efforts.
>
> joseph
>
> ======================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
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Joseph,

I just saw your message, and I had been on the line with a Resolution specialist at MSN that said they were not blocking Nuestros Ranchos from letting your e-mails come through. He also ran me through tests to show it was not my computer blocking Nuestros Ranchos either.

I am on the line with them again to tell them that you were told that Dreamhost, your new ISP, is being blocked by MSN Live.

I'll let you know what they say.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Taking a Break

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Hi, Everyone:

I wish to remain a member of Nuestros Ranchos, but I need to take a break
from being an active participant.

Problema

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Problema con el correo.

Aparentemente el problema que han tenido algunos de los miembros, de no recibir el correo electronico, se debe a que los servicios de Hotmail/MSN/Live.com ha obstruido o blo

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Problema

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Problema con el correo.

Aparentemente el problema que han tenido algunos de los miembros, de no recibir el correo electronico, se debe a que los servicios de Hotmail/MSN/Live.com ha obstruido o bloqueado a nuestro proveedor de servicio de internet, Dreamhost.

El mensaje que yo he recibido es de que estan tratando de quitar el bloqueo, pero eso se pude llevar " dias o semanas". Si se pueden esperar un tiempo, por favor lean el correo en nuestrosranchos.org. Si tienen un domicilio en Gmail o Yahoo, y si prefieren, mandenmelo junto con el nombre de usuario y yo cambiare el nombre en nuestro systema.

Les pido disculpa por las molestias.

Attentamente;
Joseph Puentes
http://nuestrosranchos.org

Ojuelos De Jalisco

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Does any one know of a person located in Ojuelso De Jalisco that can help get some records or info over the phone? I need some B-Certificates from early years meaning 1913 and 1889.

Thanks

Have You Any Gonzalez In Your Family Tree?

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