Juan Jose, dispensa que no lei tu mensaje antes de mandar el mio.? Muchas gracias por preguntarle a tu familia.? Si me pudieras conseguir los numeros de telefono de esos senores seria muy agradecida.?
Gracias,
Marisela Quezada
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Today's Topics:
1. Archivo hist?rico de Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco (jjramirezi)
2. RE: Archivo hist?rico de Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco
(Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez)
3. Re: De limosna---General Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15
(Irma GomezLucero)
4. Re: De limosna---General Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15 (Ronald Reynoso)
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:06:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: jjramirezi
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Archivo hist?rico de Jalostotitl?n,
Jalisco
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Estimado Jorge:
De acuerdo a lo comentado, el fin de semana pasado estuve en Jalostotitl?n y
platicando con algunas personas me confirmaron que no existe un archivo
historico como tal, unicamente el archivo parroquial.
Tambien me recomendaron contactar a dos historiadores de Jalos: Jose Antonio
Gutierrez y Jose Trinidad Padilla Lozano. El primero vive en Aguas y el otro en
Guadalajara, ya que ellos han tenido acceso a archivos de particulares para la
realizacion de sus libros y nos pudieran orientar.
Espero que en un par de semanas a mas tardar me consigan los numeros telefonicos
de Don To?o y Don Trino ya sea que quieras hablar directamente con ellos o que
yo te consiga la informaci?n, como t? gustes.
Saludos a todos
Juan Jos? Ram?rez Ibarra
San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:06:18 -0600
From: Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: Archivo hist?rico de Jalostotitl?n,
Jalisco
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:00:56 -0700
From: "Irma GomezLucero"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] De limosna---General Digest, Vol 26,
Issue 15
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As Tomas mentioned--Often people are very poor and can not offer a
donation. This is when they annotated "de limosna."
The Church does NOT charge for "services" or better said charge for
receiving Sacraments. Since the Catholic Church does not make people
tithe any percentage of their wages, nor request W-2 forms of their
congregation, it ran and does run on donations given by people of
whatever they feel they can afford. These donations were/are mainly
collected (collection basket) during Church services.
When receiving sacraments, you give/gave the priest a donation for the
Church which in my experience has NEVER been solicited in Mexico, nor
here in the U.S.A.