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This is getting way too much attention folks !
I totally agree with Joseph on this matter .

Yours truly,
Welester G. Alvarado Carrillo

It is my opinion that there is enough valuable information within the Somos
Primos newsletter to continue sending it to the group. Do I agree with
everything within its pages, no, do I agree with some of the things within
its pages, yes. The parts I agree with I use, the parts I disagree with I
reject. However if I feel strongly enough about the disagreeable parts I
would consider taking it to the author or even discussing it in a forum that
is political in nature. The NR group is not the political forum to share
your opinions. Look over the SP newsletter and you will find some nuggets of
valuable information and you'll also find info that is disagreeable.

On my computer I have a mouse that is trained to just click and delete
things that I KNOW I won't agree with. I even have an option called "Create
Rule" that allows me to enter key words in

Joseph,

I know you unsubscribe those that put up threads that are political or otherwise inappropriate for a genealogy site, and I agree with you that bringing up the monthly index for Somos Primos you share is helpful since there are informative things to be found there as regards genealogical and historical topics of interest to us. I just ignore those topics that are political and just click on the topics that interest me.

Emilie

Port Orchard, WA

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From: Announce on behalf of Joseph Puentes
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Unsubscribe Please

For those that feel strongly enough please send me an email to
makas@nc.rr.com so I can unsubscribe you.

It is my opinion that there is enough valuable information within the Somos
Primos newsletter to continue sending it to the group. Do I agree with
everything within its

Joseph,
I think Victoriano Navarro suggested you cut out the editorial intro when you post the newsletter. Is this an option since some find the rhetoric offensive? Other forums also add a disclaimer "opinions expressed by X do not reflect the opinions of NR". Another option.
I'm just wondering what can be done so that everyone is comfortable. Many seem outraged and I understand how that's possible.
Finally, can you clarify what your PS remark means? Are you saying, that voicing an opinion on political rhetoric is considered ' continuing a dialog that is political in nature'. I don't want to misinterpret your message/warning and it's ambiguous. I am questioning as I'm concerned that having an opinion on political rhetoric is being equated to including political rhetoric as part of a genealogy newsletter and intro.
Just trying to understand the rules.....
Thank you,
Maven

Thank you for this update. I, for one agree with you about politicizing a genealogy forum, it is not the place nor would I contribute nor read these posts. However, there's value in the updates (only genealogical ones)  due to the nature of research and assembling the puzzle we all face when searching ancestors.
Thank you, and please continue to inform as always,Teri Romero  ~~  Teri Romero  ~~             

From: Joseph Puentes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; research@nuestrosranchos.org; announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 1:07 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Unsubscribe Please

For those that feel strongly enough please send me an email to
makas@nc.rr.com so I can unsubscribe you.

It is my opinion that there is enough valuable information within the Somos
Primos newsletter to continue sending it to the group. Do I agree with
everything within its pages, no, do I agree with some of the things within
its pages, yes. The parts I agree

Joseph Puentes,

So, am I understanding this correctly, you are going to unsubscribe Somos
Primos Newsletter because it has parts that are political in nature? From
your PS (Posdata) this is what I came to understand, am I mistaken?

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A Rodarte branch migrated from Zacatecas to Coahuila around 1860.

Check this out:

http://www.sanbuena.com/Toreros%20Rodarte.pdf

Unfortunately it is in spanish.

Regards,

Bernardo Menchaca

Hola Anna:

Hay un libro en línea (online) LLamado Nuestros Antepasados (our Ancestors) Los Nuevos mexicanos del condado de Lincoln, por Ernest Sánchez y Paul R. Sánchez en que se menciona a un Miguel Rodarte de Sombrerete, Zacatecas cuya hija emigró a Nuevo México. No tiene los números de página.

Saludos

Marcelina

Ruben--

Pedro de Velasco Navarrete is a mistake, I am not sure where this started, but it has been passed around on multiple genealogy websites, he is not Navarrete. He was actually known and signed as Don Pedro Ruiz de Velasco y Haro. He was married to Da. Ana Núñez Bohórquez, the daughter of D. Juan Núñez Bohórquez, this last link was given to me from D. Guillermo Tovar de Teresa before his passing.

The couple is found in Mexico City in 1618 where they baptized their son Pedro on 20 Nov 1618 in the Asunción parish of Mexico City. We are not sure exactly when the couple moved from Mexico City to Ayo el Chico, today Ayotlán, but I would imagine it took place sometime in the 1620s. The first hard date in the Obispado de Michoacán, we have sadly is not until 23 Feb 1656. This is the marriage that took place between Da. María Ruiz de Haro (daughter of Pedro and Ana) and D. Cristóbal Hernández Gamiño y Espejo in Iraputo, Guanajuato.

The first dispensa is between Juan de Aceves y

Not sure if you are still able to get the cd of Vol 1 and 2. Abebooks has the 3-4, not sure if there is 5. Thanks for any info you can provide

Can you please tell me what this book is about? I have ancestor's from
Chalchihuites, Zacatecas Mexico Esparza / Chavez. Would I find them in
these books?

Thanks,

Mary Cano

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[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of arturoramos
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:13 PM
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hillerkuss Diccionario Biografico del
OccidenteNovohispano

Thomas Hillerkuss of the Universidad Autonoma de Zacatecas has recently
published the third volume of Diccionario Biografico del Occidente
Novohispano. The first volume (A-C) is out of stock but there are still
copies of the second volume (D-G) for 220 pesos and the third volume (H-I)
is available for 350 pesos.

I will be ordering a set of the latter two volumes and Dr. Hillerkuss has
agreed to provide the first volume electronically (on a CD). I am wondering
if there are any other members who

Arturo Ramos:
Do you have a copy of the book already? if you do, maybe making a copy of
the table of content will give others a better idea and decide to buy them
or not.
I am interested to purchase them, how do I give you the $$?

Sylvia H Corona

Arturo, what are these books? I'm not familiar with them.

Linda in Everett

arturoramos wrote:

Thomas Hillerkuss of the Universidad Autonoma de Zacatecas has recently published the third volume of Diccionario Biografico del Occidente Novohispano. The first volume (A-C) is out of stock but there are still copies of the second volume (D-G) for 220 pesos and the third volume (H-I) is available for 350 pesos.

I will be ordering a set of the latter two volumes and Dr. Hillerkuss has agreed to provide the first volume electronically (on a CD). I am wondering if there are any other members who might be interested in acquiring a set. My parents are currently in Mexico and I will have the books sent to them and they will be able to deliver them to me sometime in July. I imagine that the order (two books plus CD) should run about USD $70-$75 a set including shipping expenses.

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Hello Rick

I have one Álvaro Herrera that may or may not be related to the one you present in this post.

In my notes I have Isabel Ruíz "La Moza" daughter of Isabel Ruíz de Haro y Zúñiga "La Vieja", and Juan Ruiz de Castro, married first to an Álvaro Herrera around 1590.Then I have her married around 1600 with Simón Bravo.

Hopefully this adds a small piece to the Herrera genealogy

According to Webster's: "a group or organization of Roman Catholic laymen in Mexico and Central America responsible for the material care of religious images, pilgrimages, and ceremonies."

Hi Jesus

This is a pretty old post hopefully you'll reply, just wondering if you were able to trace back your ancestors from Valle de Mazamitla?. I actually have alot of ancestors from Mazamitla Cisneros, Contreras, Chaves, Toscano Silva to name a few. Thanks

Hi Jesus

This is a pretty old post hopefully you'll reply, just wondering if you were able to trace back your ancestors from Valle de Mazamitla?. I actually have alot of ancestors from Mazamitla Cisneros, Contreras, Chaves, Toscano Silva to name a few. Thanks

Or "espurio" means "illegitimate." So, yes, he is the son of Petra de Altamira Mulata Esclava and an unknown father.

Saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

In my experience, the ¨C¨ means ¨Ciudadano¨. You can see it on this page of marriage records from Ojuelos where most records say Ciudadano for each groom while the writer of the last record on the page chose to abbreviate the word to just the letter C.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPG6-QYD?i=44&cc=1918187&c…

Hi Simona,

I've seen dispensas & IMs for parishes in SLP, Gto, Mich and Qro in the Arquidiócesis de Morelia archives:
https://familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=3NRL-7MS%3A178285301%2C…

Saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo