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There is a marriage at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F79B-5S?mode=g&i=215&wc=3J… (bottom right).

En el pueblo de San Phelipe de Cuquio En tres dias del mes de Mayo del año de mill y seiscientos y ochenta y dos Abiendo amonestado y echo las diligencias que dispone el Santo Concilio de trento y no Resultando impedimento ninguno Casse y bele segun orden de Nuestra Santa Madre Iglesia Catolica Romana EN PRESENCIA DE JUAN GONZALEZ DE HERMOSILLO y Alcalde Matheo Juarez y demas principales de dicho pueblo a Pedro Gutierrez soltero y Jacinta de Olibas doncella de la feligresia de Tacotlan fueron sus padrinos Christobal de Carabajal y Josepha Calderon y para que conste lo firme Br Nicolas Sanches

Could this Pedro Gutierrez be half-brother or nephew of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo??

Children of this couple:

Gertrudis b. Cuquio Mar.14/1690

Pedro b. Cuquio Apr.21/1695

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:15 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos, April 2016

Please cut and paste:
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2016/spapr16/spapr16.htm

Dear Primos:

You will find in the April issue of Somos Primos eleven articles with DNA information. I think you will conclude that those of us in the Americas with Spanish heritage, connect with every racial and cultural group in the world. Wonderful to observe that many Latinos have being moved, inspired, and directed to search out family roots. We now have physical proof through DNA of those some time surprising global connections, however, evidence that we all . . . . really are connected.

Once we are convinced of our brotherhood, the next step is forgiveness of historic injustices, and then work together to solve current problems, instead of "cursing the past".

An example of a historic event whose purpose is increased understanding:
April 16, 1803, the Battle of the Bay of San Diego in California.

In 1803 California was under the governance of Spain. Spanish soldiers were stationed at Fort Guijarros on Coronado North Island. Spain was attempting to keep foreign ships sailing in the Pacific Ocean, from landing on the California coast.

The Anniversary of the Battle of San Diego Bay, remembers a historic event in which an English-speaking crew was attempting to engage in smuggling. History is clarified, the Spanish presence acknowledged, and historic adversaries joined together to present the past in unity.
Collaboration between the U.S. Navy and Spanish representatives from the Casa de Espana is mounting the 213th event. [Included under California in the issue.]

I am convinced that as more of the general public becomes aware of the early Spanish presence in the building of the United States, more unity will result.

God bless America, Mimi

UNITED STATES
Our America: A Hispanic History of the United States by Felipe Fernández-Armesto U.S. now the world’s second-largest Spanish-speaking nation “La leyenda negra en Alemania y los Países Bajos. El patio trasero suramericano”
Hispanic Texans: Journey from Empire to Democracy Latino Americans, Shared Orange Heritage

Latino Museum Studies Program
Mixed Marriages Causing US: Hispanics, Asians to Integrate Faster by Dora Mekouar DNA Sharing by Somos Primos readers The Challenge that Chicanada face

Brad Pitt is joining Disney to tell the story of Dr. Alfredo Quiñones-Hinojosa.
Jovita Idar: Journalism Pioneer
Alicia Dickerson Montemayor, civil rights activist G.I. Forum, LULAC Protest "Whites Only" Normanna Cemetery

Six Young Women Help Launch NCLR “Entre Mujeres” Program U.S. National Anthem sung by 500 students in Kentucky high-rise hotel.
Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs - NumbersUSA.com Real time U.S. Government spending clock.

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Meet the Charro Mexican Cowboys Fighting to Save the Lost Art and Traditions of Mexican
Horsemanship by Antonio Gomez Texas Connection to the American Revolution, March 2, Meeting,
Topic: SPAR, Spanish Presence in Americas Roots Colonial collection of the Durango municipal archive online

HISTORIC TIDBITS
NPR Latino USA
March 19th, 1697: Spanish priest and chronicler of Texas enters Franciscan order Gaspar de Portola de California, Olivdado Países que pertenecieron a "México" (Nueva España) Biography.com

HISPANIC LEADERS
Dr. Miguel Encinias: Combat Aviator, April 8th, 1923 - February 20,
2016
Jose Garcia Pantoja: Paleographer, November 1, 1927 - March 15, 2016 Sgt. Rudy Garcia: President, LA Chapter, 11th Airborne Division Assn.
March 8, 2016
Daniel James Ramos: Social and Political Activist October 11, 1945 to March 11, 2016.

LATINO PATRIOTS
Santiago Erevia, Medal of Honor Recipient passed away Vietnam POWs . . . . 40 years later My Friend, Eugene (Gene) Treasrau by Jose M. Pena Living Through the Tet Offensive by Jose M. Pena

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
April 2, 2016: Symposium in Honor of Bernardo de Galvez, Rice University, Houston Albert Seguin Gonzales receives the Sam Houston Award The 'Other' European Ally of the Continental Army, Part 1 of 3 by Hon.
Edward F. Butler, Sr.

SURNAMES
Juan and Vicente de Zaldivar, The Nephews by Richard Flint and Shirley Cushing Flint Descendants of Joseph "Jose" de Urrutia, Juana de Dios de Urrutia, and Ignacio Gonzalez Ynclan

Mi nombre es Ruben Hernandez y mis ancestros provienen principalmente de Tepatitlan y Lagos de Moreno en Jalisco.

Hace poco mas de un año que inicie la investigacion de quienes fueron mis antepasados. Mi busqueda se ha concentrado en las siguientes lineas: Garcia, Castillo, Rabago y ultimamente Gutierrez, hasta llegar al "misterioso" Pedro Gutierrez de Hermosillo, hijo natural de Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo de quien poco se sabe.

Me siento muy complacido de poder formar parte de este grupo del que, aun sin ser miembro, tanto he aprendido y descubierto. Deseo continuar aprendiendo y descubriendo con la finalidad de poder llegar a hacer algun aporte de interes para alguien mas.

Alonso Gonzalez de Rubalcava. trying to find info on him thank you anyone that can help

Hello Group,
I'd appreciate help interpreting this unusual baptismal entry (on right)
from 1769 San Martin Texmelucan, Puebla, image 161.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-RC9H-C1?mode=g&i=160&wc=M8…

It's difficult for me to understand, but I believe this adult Negro slave
from London, England??? is being baptized because they're not sure he was
ever baptized? There is a lot that appears interesting, but unfortunately
I can't make it all out. Thank you so much for your assistance.
Alice Blake

Hello everyone. My name is Jaime Barba. I live in California but my entire family is from Tepatitlan, Jalisco and its surrounding areas. My family and I travel frequently to the area to visit family and friends and am planning on traveling to Tepa next month for the fiestas.

I have been doing intense research on my family for the last two months and am happy to have found you guys.

My last names, and the ones I am working on the most, are Barba, Alcala, and Casillas. I look forward to helping anywhere I can and receiving help from everyone. I am waiting for my DNA results and will share more info once I receive them.

Thank you again and hello everyone

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jaime818

Hello,

My name is Jose Reynoso, born in La Boquilla, Moyahua, Zacatecas.  I'm new to the group and just started researching my family's genealogy.  I've been reading some of the posts, I'm very excited to join such a great group of people.

>From the Reynoso side, I've traced my grandfather, Melecio, Reynoso, b. 8 Dec 1893 in Guadalajarita, Zacatecas.  Melecio's father, Juan Reynoso, b. 30 Mar 1857 in Guadalajarita, Zacatecas.  Juan's father, Nasario Reynoso, b. 1830 around Moyahua, Zacatecas.  Nasario's father, Teodosio Reynoso b. about 1800 around Moyahua, Zacatecas.  And finally Teodosio's father, Miguel Reynoso b. abt 1780 around Moyahua, Zacatecas.

For the Reynoso line, see: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18347

>From the Mejia side, I've traced my grandfather, Jose Mejia, b. abt 1898 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas.  Jose's father, Maximiano Mejia, b. abt 1860 around Nochistlan, Zacatecas.
So far, I have not found anything else for Maximiano, other than marrying Zenona Melendres on January 27, 1878 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas.  Zenona Melendres, b. 23 Jun 1863, in Nochistlan, Zacatecas, is the daughter of Jose Melendres and Clara Reinoso.

>From the Sandoval side, I've traced my grandmother, Luciana Sandoval, b. 2 Jul 1902 in Guadalajarita, Zacatecas.  Luciana's father, Julio Sandoval, b. 1876 in El Remolino, Zacatecas.  Julio's father, Rodrigo Sandoval, b. 1850 in Moyahua, Zacatecas.  Rodrigo's father, Barbaro Sandoval, b. abt 1830 around Moyahua, Zacatecas.

>From the Iniguez side, I've traced my grandmother, Maria Iniguez, b. 1898 in San Jose de La Boquilla, Moyahua, Zacatecas.  Maria's father, Ignacio de Jesus Iniguez, b. 31 Jul 1867 in San Jose de La Boquilla, Moyahua, Zacatecas.  Ignacio's father, Inez Iniguez, b. abt 1836 around Moyahua, Zacatecas.  Inez's father, Antonio Iniguez, b. 1797 in Yahualica, Jalisco.  Antonio's father, Juan Jose Iniguez, b. 8 Jun 1782 in San Miguel, Yahualica, Jalisco.

Antonio Iniguez married Josefa Sandoval on July 11, 1822 in Moyahua, Zacatecas.

Other names on my tree are: Flores, Ballesteros, Renteria, Rodrigues, Alvarado, Martinez, Arellano, Gutierrez, Bocanegra, Cisneros, Lopes, Medrano, Gonzales, Pulido, Rios or Diaz, Campos, Carrillo, Haro, de Aro, de Luna, Vidaurri, and Benavides.

If anyone have any information, please let me know.  Thank you very much!

Dispensa in question:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DV4W-6?i=497&wc=3JWL-K68%3…

The dispensa includes the following information:

Manuel Gonzalez de Hermosillo, widower of Anna Maria Flores de la Torre, to marry Margarita Sanchez de Porras, daughter of Alejandro Sanchez de Porras and Maria Reynoso.

The relationships between the petitioners are:

1st:
Juan Gonz. de Hermosillo (m Leonor Caravajal) - sibling - Leonor Hermosillo (m Geronimo Schz. de Porras)
Sebastian Gonzalez de Hermosillo - cousin - Alejandro Sanchez de Porras
Manuel Gonzalez de Hermosillo - 2 cousin - Margarita Sanchez de Porras

2nd:
Francisco Gonzalez de Hermosillo - sibling - Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo (m Ana Gonz. Florida)
Leonor de Hermosillo - cousin - Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo (m Geronimo Sanchez de Porras)
Josepha Franco - 2 cousin - Alejandro Sanchez de Porras
Anna Maria Flores de la Torre - 3 cousin - Margarita Sanchez de Porras

Items in parenthesis added by me.

Does the direct line with Francisco Gonzalez de Hermosillo at the top agree with your research?

In my tree I have Francisco Munoz de Hermosillo who is the brother of Juan Gonz. de Hermosillo (m Ana Gonz. Florida) but I do not have a daughter named Leonor.

I also have another brother of said Francisco and Juan, named Cristobal. Cristobal had a daughter Leonor de Hermosillo who married Pedro Franco de Paredes. Leonor and Pedro has a daughter, Ana Franco, who married Joseph de la Torre.

So my questions are, should Francisco from the dispensa actually read Cristobal? An if so, are Ana Franco and Josepha Franco the same person or sisters?

Thank you
Alex Mercado

The lines that I am currently working on have Leonor Vásques de Retamosa in several different places. I have just finished reading all the information that I can find about her both in Nuestros Ranchos forums and also in FamilySearch and Ancestry.com. I am thoroughly confused.

In the lines I have, she first shows up as the mother of Pedro Pablo Macias Valades who would have been born in about 1588 in Lagos. Her husband there was Nicolas Macias Valades. In another line, she is the mother of Juana Bautista de Alba who would have been born right around 1600 in Lagos, based on when she started having children (1616). Her husband this time is José Alonso de Alba.

Some sources seem to think that there were 2 different Leonors - one born around 1561 and the other around 1583. The first was married to Nicolas and the second to Alonso. I am not so sure about this. I tend to think that there is only 1 Leonor. It is certainly conceivable that the Leonor born in 1561 could still have a daughter around 1600.

The issue of whether Nicolas is the same person as Alonso is more confusing. General consensus seems to be that Nicolas was born in Spain around 1527. This would make him pretty old to be having children in 1600, although not impossibly. The bigger issue for me is that all the documents that I can find give Juana Bautista's name as Alba. She also seems to have had a sister Maria de Alba who married in 1614. Where did Alba come from? It is certainly not unheard of for a person's name to change in these records, but from Nicolas Macias Valades to Alonso de Alba seems like a bit of a stretch. Not impossible, just a stretch.

So, anyway, it seems to me that there are a couple of possibilities:
1) there really were 2 Leonors - it may even be possible that the 1 born around 1583 was the daughter of the first one
2) the Leonor who was born around 1561 was married twice - first to Nicolas and second to Alonso
3) there was only one Leonor and only one husband, whose name changed as time went on from Nicolas Macias Valades to Alonso de Alba.

I know this has been discussed before, but I would really like to hear what everyone else thinks about this issue.

Hello everyone. I'm so beyond happy to have been pointed in your direction!

My name is Stephanie and along with my mother (okay, yes, she does most of the hard work) have been working on our family tree for just under ten years. There's so much to uncover and it feels as though there's just not not enough time. Now that my mother is nice and retired, she's been busy reorganizing and double checking our tree.

My paternal great-grandfather migrated from Tecolotlán all the way up to Bakersfield, California, working on the Southern Pacific Railroad. He (Atanasio Pimienta) was born in 1904, Tecolotlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

We hit the proverbial brick wall and after four years we were led to this amazing site; I'll be posting my questions in the research forum. I'm truly excited to have been accepted into the group.

Much Thanks,
Stephanie

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm looking to see if anyone knows anything about my ancestors Don
Victoriano Lomelin and Doña Maria de la Trinidad Guerra. They are the
parents of Jose Maria Lomelin. Does anyone know who thetyre parents are?
Thank you

Danny C. Alonso

Buenas Tardes necesito ayuda con esta acta de matrimonio, no tengo mucha experiencia y necesito los nombres del padre del novio para seguir con mi busqueda. Es el acta de Juan De Mercado, casado con Maria de Albas Navarro el 19 de Feb de 1703. en el libro es la acta que se encuentra a mano derecha en la parte inferior. No se si en el Padre dell novio es Juan o jose de Mercado y la madre Ynes o Juana Rangel y los de la novia Pablo de Alba y Florencia Hermosillo. Les agradezco cualquier pista que me den para continuar con mi busqueda.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Re: The Church Census of the Gudaljara Diocese. I have been reviewing the early 1800's documents but am unsure what "Feligresia" these towns would fall into.
Would they be their own district or ?

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

on this marriage of Juan Antonio Eparza and Josepha Gonzalez could someone tell me what the name of the father of Juan Antonio Esparza is,I can't read it

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-V5SW-36

Danny C. Alonso

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm trying to see if someone knows information on my ancestors Don Augustin
Perez and Doña Maria Dolores Cuellar mentioned here as parents of Maria
Theresa Perez

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-V5SQ-TR

Danny C. Alonso

A few years ago there was a poster showing that some ex-presidents of Mexico were related to each other was posted on the Internet.
Does anyone have the link or know where I can get this information?

I just discovered that i share an ancestor with an exmexican president and I would like to revisit that information to find out if I have more ancestral connections to Mexican Presidents. The connection that I found was through our common ancestor Diego Ochoa Garibai. Does anyone know of any other exmexican president related to the people from los altos de Jalisco?

Thanks,
R.A. Ricci

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me the names of the parents of my ancestors Don Lino
Villalobos and Doña Cenovia de Alba. I can't read what it says

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VR9W-62

Danny C. Alonso

Would someone please let me know if you recognize or are able to make out the paternal's grandmother's surname of the upper right corner birth listing on the attachment for Andres Amado Reyes? The grandfather's name is Julio Reyes (listed as Rogers) and his wife is Maria A__?____.

Thank you,

Cynthia

Buen dia
Mi nombre es Jesus Ramirez .
Me honra que me hayan aceptado como usuario miembro de la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos y desde 2012 he dedicado un buen tiempo a la investigación genealógica de los apellidos Ramirez,Mena, Reynoso, Padilla, Gonzalez entre muchos otros que he encontrado.
Al mismo tiempo he intentado localizar pueblos que existieron en los siglos pasados y muchos aun aparecen en la geografía actual.
Estoy un poco confundido acerca del poblado "EL POTRERILLO" de donde provienen muchos de mis ancestros que aun no tengo la certeza de su situacion geografica actual o si ya no exista.
Agradeceria si alguien pudiera compartir alguna información que seria valiosisima.

Atentamente.
Jesus Ramirez.

I hope this helps anyone doing reasearch.

https://clio.columbia.edu/catalog/6904337

Digital Humanities Center
305 Butler Library
535 West 114th St.
New York, NY 10027

Telephone: (212) 854-7547

I can not afford to go there but would love to one day!!!!

Any Torres, cabrera, Loyasa,
that does go to this place let me know.

Just posted in Reference materials files

A searchable PDF transcription of the Padron de Jalpa, Zac. 1820 with an index of Ranchos and Apellidos (Surnames)

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/23412

Onafna

I've not see this name. Can someone give me some input on what some
possibilities are for this name? email me as well as replying to the group:
joseph@nuestrosranchos.org

Thanks,

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

A quien esté interesado en el estudio de los Reynoso:

Estimados Señores,

Amén de lo ya comentado en el Archivo de la Biblioteca "Juan José Arreola" me gustaría mencionar que a principios de este año tuve la fortuna y el gusto de localizar el apellido materno del genearca de esta familia en la Nueva Galicia, precisamente en ese archivo:

"Ante el señor Capitán Alcalde Francisco de Reynoso Rico, presentó Miguel Agundes, a nombre de Don Cristóbal Torres, la constancia de que no puede aceptar el cargo de Oidor en Santiago de Guatemala."

Ramo: Bienes Difuntos.
Año: 1652
Caja: 227
Expediente 1, 13 fojas. Lugar: Guadalajara.
Biblioteca Pública del Estado de Jalisco. Juan José Arreola.

La fecha coincide con el periodo en el que el Capitán Francisco de Reynoso (N. ca. 1587) fue Alcalde Ordinario de Primer Voto en Guadalajara (1652).

No obstante de contar ya con varios datos positivos respecto a los Señores de Mazuecos, la ascendencia del Perulero aún debo documentarla de manera sólida y generación por generación. De esta forma me gustaría hacerla llegar a los miembros del foro.

Esperando que esta información les sea de utilidad reciban un cordial saludo y quedo a sus órdenes.

Erik Andrés Reynoso.

Capitán Alonso Gonzalez de Rubalcava in Teocaltiche region

Buen dia
Mi nombre es Jesus Ramirez .
Me honra que me hayan aceptado como usuario miembro de la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos y desde 2012 he dedicado un buen tiempo a la investigación genealógica de los apellidos Ramirez,Mena, Reynoso, Padilla, Gonzalez entre muchos otros que he encontrado.
Al mismo tiempo he intentado localizar pueblos que existieron en los siglos pasados y muchos aun aparecen en la geografía actual.
Estoy un poco confundido acerca del poblado "EL POTRERILLO" de donde provienen muchos de mis ancestros que aun no tengo la certeza de su situacion geografica actual o si ya no exista.
Agradeceria si alguien pudiera compartir alguna información que seria valiosisima.

Atentamente.
Jesus Ramirez.