Siriaco-de-Huerta

I am searching for any information on the family/Surname "Siriaco-de-Huerta"

Estoy buscando informacion sobe la familia "Siriaco-de-Huerta".

John Inclan

Joseph Romo de Vivar

Hola ,Any body know the parents of Joseph Romo de Vivar who was born approx. 1680 in Aguas. married to Maria Jimenez de Hermosillo in Jalos. approx. 1705.

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Ayuda....Help.......Ojuelos de Jalisco

Hola a Todos,

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----- Original Message ----
From: "sceleste_m@hotmail.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:11:37 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ayuda....Help.......Ojuelos de Jalisco

Hola a Todos,

Estoy intentando encontrar antepasados de Ojuelos de Jalisco. No encuentro nada de la gente aquí abajo acepto unos casamientos. Aurelio es mi linaje directo. Si hay alguien que me puede ayudar lo agradecería mucho.

Gracias.
Sofía

Hello Everyone,

I am trying to find these ancestors from Ojuelos de Jalisco. I can’t find more info then a couple of marriages of the people here below. Aurelio is my direct line. If someone can please help me I would really appreciate it.

Thank you.
Sofia

José Guadalupe Martínez Dávila : Dec. 18, 1864
        married April 20, 1885 to: Gregoria Rodríguez

Maria Andrea Martínez Dávila: Nov. 19, 1868

*Aurelio Martínez Dávila* : Nov. 11, 1870
        he was a widower, but I don’t know the woman’s name
        era vuido pero no connosco

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> José Guadalupe Martínez Dávila : Dec. 18, 1864
> married April 20, 1885 to: Gregoria Rodrígue
> Maria Andrea Martínez Dávila: Nov. 19, 1868

y su hermana Maria del Refugio 11 jul 1886 también hija de Eugenio y Maria de la Luz
>
Eugenio Martínez Aguilar quien bautiza el 27 mar 1842, San jose Ojuelos jalisco se casa con and María de la Luz Dávila el 17 nov 1870,

Eugenio hijo de Pedro Martinez y Maria Paula Aguilar tienen además de Eugenio a:

Jose Cosme Martinez Aguilar 03 oct 1840

Dario martinez 02 nov 1846

Pánfila 09 jun 1844

Maria Andrea Martinez 08 dec 1832 quien se casa con Viviano gomes el 24 feb 1848 hijo de Pedro Gomez e Ysidra Reyes todos de Ojuelos, Jalisco

hay en Ojuelos un Pedro Jose Martinez Gonzalez quien pudiera ser el papá de Eugenio nace el 31 may 1812 hijo de José Maria Martinez y Candelaria Gonzalez

También hay 3 matrimonios Dávila Macias de:

José Eligio Dávila y Juana Maria Macias tienen a:

Josefa 01 dec 1839

Maria Onofre 21 jun 1841

Jose Cruz 24

ayuda Jalisco Cabrera O'Reilly, Pulido, Reyes, Moreno

Hola estoy buscando a mis ancestro de Jalisco los aqui les mando las líneas de los que tengo al final, Sergio Raynal, mando lo que tengo que te sirve ati también:

yo tengo que Francisco O'

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Hola compañeros maravilla: Haber quien me ayuda con una busqueda muy facil para uds. y dificil para mi.

Froilan o Froylan Santillan Quesada
Born 4 de octubre de 1927 en Mexticacan Jal.

Padres: Presciliano Santillan y Micaela Quesada

Gracias de antemano

Antonio Santillan
Monterrey N.L.

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El tipo de busqueda, es primero con la familia, actas, bautiso,matrimonio,informes matrimoniales, platicas de la famila y por ultimo al menos que tengas un parient que sea mormon, podras obtener el nombre de esos años, porque en la base de datos de familysearch.org solo de 1880 hacia 1600
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1. PRISILIANO ANTONIO SANTILLAN ESCARSEGA - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1814 San Juan Bautista, Tolcayuca, Hidalgo, Mexico

2. PRICILIANO SANTILLAN GUTIERRES - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1861 Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico

3. Prisciliano - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 04 JAN 1864 San Francisco, Mezquital, Durango, Mexico

4. PRISILIANO SANTILLANO - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Marriage: 05 MAY 1867 San Jose, Hidalgo Del Parral, Chihuahua, Mexico

5. PRISCILIANO SANTILLAN BALLEJO - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JAN 1869 Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico

6. PRISCILIANO SANTILLAN SANCHEZ - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JAN 1874 Nuestra Senora De Guadalupe, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

Matches: International Genealogical Index/Mexico - 6

Military Archives Response

Welester,

I received my answer today from http://www.sedena.gob.mx regarding my grandfather and his relatives who fought in the Revolucion:

They said: "Se le info

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Hi Emile ,

Did I ever answer you ?

Welester

> Welester,
>
> I received my answer today from http://www.sedena.gob.mx regarding my grandfather and his relatives who fought in the Revolucion:
>
> They said: "Se le informa que no se localizaron documentos que contengan la informacion que solicita".
>
> Attached was a .jpg photo of a letter from the Secretaria del la Defensa Nacional signed by El Subdirector General de Archivo e Historia, General Brigadier D. E. M. Homero Mendoza Ruiz.
>
> The letter says: "Por acuerdo del C. General Secretario de La Defensa Nacional y en relacion con su correo electronic de fecha 19 del actual, me es grato saludarle y a la vez informarle a usted que despues de haber realizado una busqueda en los Archivos de esta Direccion, no se localizo informacion relacionada con Francisco Olague Tinajero, Ignacio Olague Tinajero y Jose Garcia Davila, por los que en caso de contar con mayores datos o documentos sobre las personas que solicita

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Yes, you did reply. Thanks,

Emilie
----- Original Message -----
From: Lester Alvarado
To: Bill Figueroa
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:00 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Military Archives Response-Emile

Hi Emile ,

Did I ever answer you ?

Welester

> Welester,
>
> I received my answer today from http://www.sedena.gob.mx> regarding my grandfather and his relatives who fought in the Revolucion:
>
> They said: "Se le informa que no se localizaron documentos que contengan la informacion que solicita".
>
> Attached was a .jpg photo of a letter from the Secretaria del la Defensa Nacional signed by El Subdirector General de Archivo e Historia, General Brigadier D. E. M. Homero Mendoza Ruiz.
>
> The letter says: "Por acuerdo del C. General Secretario de La Defensa Nacional y en relacion con su correo electronic de fecha 19 del actual, me es grato saludarle y a la vez informarle a usted que despues de haber

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They say they searched in their archives for information on the persons mentioned but did not find anything, but that if you have any other documets or information regarding them, forward the info back to SEDENA so they can search again.
Warmest regards,
VN

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Thank you.

Emilie
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Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Military Archives Response

They say they searched in their archives for information on the persons mentioned but did not find anything, but that if you have any other documets or information regarding them, forward the info back to SEDENA so they can search again.
Warmest regards,
VN

Significance of Presb

--- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this?

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Alice,

While not extremely common to have the priest as the padrino, it is common enough and still happens to this day. My cousins who live in Mexico have had the priest as the Padrino of their children as they are very close to the priest.

Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

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From: AliceBB
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:23:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Significance of Presb

--- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this? A priest wouldn't be expected to personally raise a female child if something were to happen to the parents. Culturally, the padrino's obligation isn't limited to spriruality alone, is it? It's not just idle curiousity, as the entry I refer to is that of my maternal grandmother, Agustina Santelices, who along with her younger sister, Maria Dolores, were later orphaned

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Alice, I've noticed it once but don't recall when or where.
I remember seeing it because it was unusual. --Raquel

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM, AliceBB wrote:

>
>
> --- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
> Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but
> could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this? A
> priest wouldn't be expected to personally raise a female child if something
> were to happen to the parents. Culturally, the padrino's obligation isn't
> limited to spriruality alone, is it? It's not just idle curiousity, as the
> entry I refer to is that of my maternal grandmother, Agustina Santelices,
> who along with her younger sister, Maria Dolores, were later orphaned. I'd
> appreciate opinions/experience on this subject from all. Thank you for your
> help. Alice B Blake
>
>
>

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Si, y es que en las actas de bautizo de Jerez se menciona que bachiller, tambien el hermano de mi ancestro Pantaleon de la Torre, Abundio o Isidro eran, bueno el caso es que a una hija natural de Pantaleon que es mi ancestra Maria Guadalupe Rufina del Refugio Rodriguez, fue adoptada por el Bachiller Felix Rodriguez, y buscando encontre mas Personas Adoptadas por el Bachiller, elos bautizaban pero no eran sacerdotes
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

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En jerez Zacatecas se utiliza mucho el termino de
Bachiller, que puesto tenian o que eran dentro de la iglesia

SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

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Salvador,

De acuerdo al diccionario Larousse, se da el título de Bachiller a una
persona "que ha conseguido el primer grado en una facultad." Por
consiguiente, el titulo de Bachiller (Br.) que se daba un sacerdote era
simplemente para denotar que ya había salido del Seminario. Después de esto
una autoridad religiosa le asignaba un puesto dentro de la jerarquía de la
Iglesia, por ejemplo Clérigo Presbítero, Cura de una Parroquia, Obispo,
Arzobispo, etc. De esa manera se refieren los libros de registros al Br.
Miguel de Trillo, Clérigo Presbítero. Cuando éste tu servidor se graduó de
la secundaria del Colegio San José de los Infantes en la Ciudad de
Guatemala, el título que recibí fue de "Bachiller en Ciencias y Letras", el
cual no tiene nada que ver con el título de Bachiller que da a un sacerdote,
unicamente que había completado los estudios del Bachillerato.

BILL FIGUEROA

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Thank you , Emilie. It helps answer my question as to whether or not this was a common a practice. My surprise at finding a priest as padrino is indeed only a reflection of my beginners status! It's not really that rare a situation. Again, many thanks. Alice B Blake

--- auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com wrote:

From: "Emilie Garcia"
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Significance of Presb
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:15:49 -0700

Alice,

I have seen not only priests, but others higher up in their hierarchy named as godfathers. Usually it is a family member or good friend of the family, and of course they were upper class (all those Dons and Donas). I think the godfather would be expected to be the spiritual guide for the child, and in his position he would be able to arrange for shelter, schooling, etc. and not really be expected to raise the child himself.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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From: AliceBB
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday

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Raquel, that's exactly how I reacted; but like I said, I've only been doing this for a couple of years (when my job allows it). During these years, I've read all posting, but had never come across or heard from others that they had encountered this in their families. I can only guess he was family or a good friend of the family. Thanks so much for your response.
Alice B Blake

--- ruiz.raquel061@gmail.com wrote:

From: Raquel Ruiz
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Significance of Presb
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:28:42 -0400

Alice, I've noticed it once but don't recall when or where.
I remember seeing it because it was unusual. --Raquel

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM, AliceBB wrote:

>
>
> --- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
> Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but
> could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this? A
> priest wouldn't be expected to personally raise a female child if

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Alicia, Those are along the lines of what I'm thinking--relative or close friend of the family. Thanks so much. Alice B Blake

--- alliecar@pacbell.net wrote:

From: Alicia Carrillo
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Significance of Presb
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:42:21 -0700 (PDT)

Alice,

While not extremely common to have the priest as the padrino, it is common enough and still happens to this day. My cousins who live in Mexico have had the priest as the Padrino of their children as they are very close to the priest.

Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

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From: AliceBB
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:23:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Significance of Presb

--- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this? A priest wouldn't be expected to personally raise a

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Good morning everyone,

Jerry Benavides passed away ,he is one of the co-founders of HOGAR a Dallas, Texas group of genealogist .

May he rest in Peace .

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When did Jerry pass away? Sounds like it was sudden. He was my primo.
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Esther A. Herold

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> Good morning everyone,
>
>
> Jerry Benavides passed away ,he is one of the co-founders of HOGAR a Dallas,
> Texas group of genealogist .
>
>
>
>
>
> May he rest in Peace .
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> Welester
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Hi Esther ,

The very same day that I sent the e-mail is the day that Jerry passed away at three o clock in the hospital that he was in .

I believe that his local newspaper did a story on him .

Welester

> When did Jerry pass away? Sounds like it was sudden. He was my primo.
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Alice,

I have seen not only priests, but others higher up in their hierarchy named as godfathers. Usually it is a family member or good friend of the family, and of course they were upper class (all those Dons and Donas). I think the godfather would be expected to be the spiritual guide for the child, and in his position he would be able to arrange for shelter, schooling, etc. and not really be expected to raise the child himself.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: AliceBB
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Significance of Presb

--- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this? A priest wouldn't be expected to personally raise a female child if something were to happen to the parents. Culturally, the padrino's obligation isn't limited to

Another child for Thomas de Villalpando and Maria de Vargas

In going through the Informacion Matrimonial for Aguascalientes, 1711, I found another child for Thomas de Villalpando and Maria de Vargas.

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Daniel

I have gone through the Informacion Matrimonial for Aguascalientes from the beginning (1666) to 1699 completely, and am working on the early 1700s. A number of 1700s films are currently off-line, so my data is not yeyt complete. I've posted the first part (through 1699) under Aguascalientes Marriages in the Files area.

I don't know what time period you are interested in, but this is what I have:

Vol 1696/97, image 100
Eugenio Losano, son of Joseph Losano and Petrona Gonzales, and Maria Duron, daughter of Andres Duron and Juana Basques.

There is no Jose Ruis de Esparza, but several Josephs:

vol 1703, image 123, Padres no conosodios (this is for Joseph de Esparza)
vol 1698/1701, image 115, son of Martin Ruis de Esparza and Francisca Zotelo de Jaen
vol 1698/1701, iamge 343, son of Alonso Ruis Mateo and Matiana Ruis de Esparza
vol 1701, image 1, son of Alonso Ruis Mateo and Matiana Ruis de Esparza (this is a continuation of the previous record).

Hopefully, this is helpful

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Hi George,

many thanks yup thats my Eugenio and Maria Duron or Duran. I see both in all sorts of records. The Joseph Ruiz de Esparza im looking for is ca. 1730 he actually married the daughter of Eugenio Lozano. The Duran/Vasquez line goes into Nochistlan, so Im stuck there.

This is the new info I have maybe you have these in your database.

Eugenio Lozano was son of Jose Lozano and Petronila Gonzalez aka Petrona de Macias y Valades, aka Petronila de Retamosa. I found there marriage in Teocaltiche 23 feb 1666. On the other side Maria Duron (Duran) daughter of Jose Andres Duran and Juana Asencion Vasquez y Sandoval. Andres is son of Juan Simon Duran and Regina de Aguayo.

-Daniel

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Daniel

You are most welcome!

I have not reached the 1730s yet, as I am still working on 1712. Most of the later films are still off-line. My goal is to work on these until I get to the point where the marriages records and the matrimonial information are in agreement, that is, when they generally both exist, and the information in them is the same. I also intend to post these, also, when complete.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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Hi George, actually I do have another Jose Esparza. I have 3 of them!

Maybe you have these guys, the only ones I cant find

Jose de Esparza

Maria Dolores del Rio

married prob married ca. 1700

Jose Diaz de Anda aka Diaz Tiscareno

Jacinta de Ortega y Estrada

married 12 feb 1679, the actual marriage does not list parents maybe in info. matr.

Thanks, again George, your work is gonna help many Aguascalientes researchers.

-Daniel

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Oh I gorgot on Jose Esparza and Dolores Rio, I never found any kids, so they might have married bet 1700-1715 since their daughters marriage record list her to have been born ca. 1715.
-Daniel

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To Carlos: Re Jaime Holcombe's book

Carlos,

I just heard from Jaime's son. He says he is not aware that his father left any copies of his manuscript with anyone, and he is waiting to hear from you directly.

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Keep me in the loop also. I have the family group sheets of Jaimes that I copied many moons ago from the film I ordered.....It was very time consuming but it has been well worth it.

Rose
Fresno, CA

Fw: to Carlos Iturralde re Holcombe - Capitán Pedro de Anda Altamirano.

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To: cyturralde@cox.net
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros R

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Hi Emilie,

If you can contact the family that would be great.

Carlos Yturralde

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To: cyturralde@cox.net
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Capitán Pedro de Anda Altamirano.


Hi, Carlos,

I have contacted Jaime's son in Mexico City, and so has Arturo, our webmaster. The son also is supposedly a member of this group. The son told me he is going to publish his father's last project that he was working on when he died, but that he and his siblings are not interested in genealogy to the extent that their father was, and they are tied down earning a living. What was sad to hear was that his father's papers are all molding and bug-ridden in a storage room in his wife's house somewhere. I will try and find that e-mail address I had for the son, I think his name is Jaime also, and send it to you later.

Thanks much,

Emilie
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Pedro Ortiz-Catalina Ramirez and Luis de Avila-Clara de Amaia

Phelipe Ortiz was son of Pedro Ortiz and Catalina Ramirez. He married Josepha de Avila, daughter of Luis de Avila and Clara de Amaia (also as Anaya) on 26 April 1643 in Aguascalientes.

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Jaime

Luis de Avila and Clara de Amaia had three children that I have been able to document so far (which I would expect you also know):

Josepha, who you mentioned, who married 26 Apr 1643, Phelipe Ortiz (Aguascalientes film 299421, image 272)
Maria, who married 11 Mar 1646 (velados 10 Aug 1646), Pablo de Montes de Oca Sanches (same film, images 283 and 284)
Nicolas, who married 6 Feb 1647, Getrudis de Luebana (same film, image 286).

All three of these records name all the parents.

I have not researched further on descendants Josepha de Avila and Phelipe Ortiz.

I have seen some posted genealogies that place Luis de Avila (who married Cathalina de Grijalva) in this family also, but I do not have documentation of this.

In my review of the Informacion Matrimonial, there is an entry for Juan Ramires, son of Phelipe Ortis and Josepha de Avila, and Maria Garcia (also names first wife, Luisa Ruis de Esparza). See the volume for 1678/81, image 137 (16 Feb 1676. I did not find amarriage

Flores, Haro, Carillo

My maternal grandparents were from the Huejucar, Las Bocas area. This is what I know: Nicolas Flores, DOB abt 12/12/1885, Huejucar, Jalisco married Ignacia Haro DOB: 7/31/1892 in Huejucar, Jalisco.

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Lety or anyone. Some of the information you've given me has a film and/or batch number. Is it possible to view this information? Where and how? Also the PAF file you shared has has Marcelo Carrillo B. 1809 and his son Jose Leonardo Carrillo B. 1797. Not possible so how do I interpret this? Typo? Thanks

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Last week you asked Lety:

Lety or anyone. Some of the information you've given me has a film and/or batch number. Is it possible to view this information? Where and how? Also the PAF file you shared has has Marcelo Carrillo B. 1809 and his son Jose Leonardo Carrillo B. 1797. Not possible so how do I interpret this? Typo? Thanks

The film numbers are the microfilm numbers of the parrish register books from which the information comes. You can order these films for viewing at your local family history center... go to http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp to find your closest family history center.

The batch numbers are viewable online though the same site (familysearch.org). You can simply go to Advanced Search, select IGI (usually) or VRI (sometimes), type in the batch number and select "Mexico" from the location options and it will give you the extractions of the relevant film associated with the batch number.

You can also use the "Films" section of the

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Estimado Arturo, creo que la que preguntó fue Irma, pero a todos nos sirve que nos digan por donde buscar muchas gracias por molestarte en contestar.

Gracias!! Lety

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Jose florencio Romero Viyagrana hijo de Julian Romero y Geronima Viyagrana (nace 26 feb 1825 Huejucar) tambien hermano de Juan Jose de la Trinidad Romero Viyagrana

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Nicolas Flores hijo de Damasa Carrillo Frutos ( hija de Leonardo Carrillo y Carmen frutos B: 15 dec 1855) y de Bruno Flores ( hijo de Rafael Flores y Maria Luz Zesati casados el 28 sep 1861 film 0445147 batch M602986)

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Gorgonio Haro Villegas (13 sep 1858) Huejucar hijo de Francisco de Haro y Dolores Villegas (quienes de casan el 28 nov 1857) y hermano de Maria Leonarda de Haro Villegas ( 7 nov 1860) Huejucar

Francisco de Haro es J´se Francisco Roman de Haro Flores hijo de Navor de Haro y

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Ademas de tener un teclado americano, no tengo buena ortografia pero quisa seria mas facil tratar de comunicar en espanol. La informacion que me da es fabulosa. Vive usted en Huejucar? En septiembre 2003, mis dos hermanas y yo llevamos a nuestra mama a Huejucar. Era su sueno conocer donde habian nacido sus padres. Ella fallecio en 2007. Cuando estuvimos en Huejucar conocimos a Lydia Mendoza Rivas. Ella nos dijo que tenia mucha informacion de la gente de Las Bocas pero nunca pudimos obtener esa informacion. Mil gracias, Irma

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your Haro side:

Gorgonio ( Gregorio) de Haro married Maria Vicenta Romero M: 21 sep 1883 huejucar, jalisco , she born 19 jun 1868 daugther of (Florencio Romero y Maria de Santiago)

they are also parents of Ma. Leonides Haro Romero (b:15 aug 1884)

Ma. Felix de Haro Romero ( 27 nov 1888) film 115201

Felipe Haro Romero 01 jun 1886 film 445097 and 1158201 everybogy in Huejucar
Lety Reynoso

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First Mexican Criollo

Estimados Colisteros,

On this day in 1587, Virginia Day became the first child of English parents to be born on American soil in what is now Roanoke Island in the State of North Carolina.

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One step closer to the answer to this question... there is documentation showing that Spanish women crossed the Atlantic to Hispaniola (Santo Domingo) as early as 1497, perhaps as early as 1494:

El propio Cristóbal Colón, en la Carta de Relación del segundo viaje, dice que entregó un niño indígena «a una muger que de Castilla acá benía» (Antonio Rumeu de Armas, Manuscrito del Libro Copiador de Colón, Madrid, ed. del autor, 1989, p. 450.)

By 1497 there were a large number of spanish women in Hispaniola:

En un documento fechado 1497 Ávila aparecen trescientos de los más de seiscientos pasajeros que participaron en el segundo viaje colombino y, entre ellos, figuran mujeres como María de Granada y las comerciantes Catalina Vázquez y Catalina Rodríguez. (General de Simancas, Sección Contaduría Mayor de Cuentas, Primera Época, Legajo 98)

Los Reyes Católicos autorizaron al almirante a llevar trescientos hombres y treinta mujeres en su siguiente travesía (1497-98). Entre esas treinat

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Great research, Arturo! Men being men, I was sure women were brought early on, and colorful ones at that! Thanks for the enlightenment; historical facts are usually more interesting than believing a sugar-coated fairytale. Alice B Blake

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From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] First criollo in the Americas in Hispaniola probably in 1490s
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:09:51 -0700 (PDT)

One step closer to the answer to this question... there is documentation showing that Spanish women crossed the Atlantic to Hispaniola (Santo Domingo) as early as 1497, perhaps as early as 1494:

El propio Cristóbal Colón, en la Carta de Relación del segundo viaje, dice que entregó un niño indígena «a una muger que de Castilla acá benía» (Antonio Rumeu de Armas, Manuscrito del Libro Copiador de Colón, Madrid, ed. del autor, 1989, p. 450.)

By 1497 there were a large number of spanish women in Hispaniola:

En un

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Geronimo de Aguilar was a Franciscan friar, and while shipwrecked and captured by the Maya in the Yucatan in 1511, he did not father any children (at least not any that he would admit to since that would prove that he had broken his vows of chastity).

He was shipwrecked with Gonzalo Guerrero, who bacame a war leader for Nachan Kaan, married a rich Maya woman and fathered Mexico's first three mestizo children sometime in the 1510s.

When Cortes sent a message to ask Aguilar and Guerrero to join him in his conquest of Mexico in 1519, Aguilar went, but Guerrero told Aguilar:

"Hermano Aguilar, yo soy casado y tengo tres hijos. Tienenme por cacique y capitán, cuando hay guerras, la cara tengo labrada, y horadadas las orejas. ¿Que dirán de mi esos españoles, si me ven ir de este modo? Idos vos con la bendición de Dios, que ya veis que estos mis hijitos son bonitos, y dadme por vida vuestra de esas cuentas verdes que traeis, para darles, y diré, que mis hermanos me las envían de mi tierra."

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If my history is correct and I think 99.9 will be, but without checking my sources I have to say that there was contact with the Mayas from three sailors that were marooned of the coast of Yucatan, they procreated children becoming the first mestizos in the Americas.
(Just as soon as I can I will do some research and let every one know the names of those soldiers.) It might have  been Jeronimo de Aguilar.

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, conrique1@earthlink.net wrote:

From: conrique1@earthlink.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] First Mexican Criollo
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:06 PM

Estimados Colisteros,

On this day in 1587, Virginia Day became the first child of English parents to be born on American soil in what is now Roanoke Island in the State of North Carolina.

Is it known when the first descendant of Spanish parents was born in what is now Mexico?   ... and who that child was?

Saludos,

Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California

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Wow, I did not known this, I guess Mestizos were born before the criollos, the first European born in the Americas is Luis Cortes Hermosillo. -Daniel

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The first child of Spanish parents born in the Americas was likely in Hispaniola (Dominican Republic), where the Spanish had permanent colonies since 1496. I am not very familiar with the microhistory of Santo Domingo from that era to figure out who exactly it might have been but I would be willing to bet a criollo was born there before a child of Hernan Cortes was born in the 1520s.

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I don't think there were any Spanish women on the first voyages, but probably there were women on the voyages to Santo Domingo before 1500.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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The first child of Spanish parents born in the Americas was likely in Hispaniola (Dominican Republic), where the Spanish had permanent colonies since 1496. I am not very familiar with the microhistory of Santo Domingo from that era to figure out who exactly it might have been but I would be willing to bet a criollo was born there before a child of Hernan Cortes was born in the 1520s.

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True, after Mexico fell, most conquistadores had wives and travled back to Spain for them and their kids. Luis was the first Spanish Mexican Criollo, not sure who was in Hispaniola

-Daniel

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The first Spaniard to be born in America "In the sense of all America not USA" was don Luís Cortés y Hermosillo, child of Hernán Cortés and doña Elvira de Hermosillo, relative of the Hermosillos of Los altos. Not sure how though? I was always told this, I guess we have another task on the plate.

-Daniel

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Según las crónicas de Bernal Díaz del Castillo, los primeros mestizos
nacidos en México fueron engendrados en la península de Yucatán por Gonzalo
Guerrero, uno de dos naufragos que sobrevivieron un fallido viaje de
exploración en 1511. Sin embargo, el primer mestizo del que se tiene
conocimiento es Martín Cortés, hijo ilegítimo de Hernán Cortés con la
Malinche. El conquistador Pedro de Alvarado también tuvo dos hijos
ilegítimos con la princesa tlascalteca Luisa de Xicotencatl (Tecuilhauatzin)
quien lo acompañó en viajes de exploración por el sur de México y Guatemala.
Pedro nació en México (no sé en que fecha) y Leonor en Guatemala. Doña
Leonor Alvarado de Xicotencatl, nacida el 22 de marzo de 1524 en Utatlán,
fue la primera mestiza en Guatemala. Casó en primeras nupcias con Pedro de
Portocarrero, brazo derecho de Alvarado, y fue inmortalizada por Pepe Milla
en su famosa novela "La hija del Adelantado".

According to Bernal Díaz del Castillo, the first mestizos born in

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Who can change my e-mail address. I changed it on the web site but I continue to receive e-mails at work.

Regards,

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Please excuse the typographical error in my submittal . . .

The correct name of the child was Virginia Dare.

She is reported as having been born on August 18, 1587, in Cheseapeke Bay, Roanoke Island, Dare, North Carolina. Her parents were Ananias Dare and Ellinor (or Elyonor)White.

Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California

ARIZAGA DEL RIO

Podria alguien darme una idea de como encontrar informacion de uno de mis antepasados?

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Trata de localizar el informe Matrimonial de Tus ancestros en los fil de la iglesia mormona de dos a 6 meses antes del matrimonio, y en los municipios que esten cercanos de la Barca
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

NuestrosRanchos GEDCOM and FILES

OK, I've almost given up on this GEDCOM "thingee". Although I can read them (as a guest); how can I be a contributor on it. PLEASE don't tell me I have to buy different software.

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Joseph:

To add information to the GEDCOM database all you need to do is request that a tree be set up for you on the database. Then you should be able to either upload a GEDCOM file that you have created in some other software (you can use the free PAF software) or simply use the database as your genealogy repository and manually enter data directly into the database on the website. This is explained in an email that all members get when they first use the GEDCOM database.

As for viewing other members Word file attachments, Microsoft gas a free Word viewer you can download that allows you to view but nit create or edit Word files.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3657ce88-7cfa-…

The Open Office software that was mentioned is another option. It is free as long as you download it as opposed to order a disk.

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I do not know how to contribute to the GEDCOM section, so that's a question for someone else.

However, I do know that files that are in Microsoft Word format can be opened by Open Office, which can be downloaded free at OpenOffice.org

-Patti

----- Original Message ----
> From: "jcdl1944@hotmail.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:27:10 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NuestrosRanchos GEDCOM and FILES
>
> OK, I've almost given up on this GEDCOM "thingee". Although I can read them (as
> a guest); how can I be a contributor on it. PLEASE don't tell me I have to buy
> different software. My Family Tree software is fully capable to convert to
> GEDCOM files at a mouse-click.
>
> In addition, I cannot read other people's FILES because I don't have MicroSoft
> Word; please don't tell me I have to buy it for a few hundred bucks.
>
> Access should be avaiable to ALL NuestrosRanchos members. Are you reading this,
> Primo Joseph

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. HERMINIA AURORA ARIAS ESPINOSA - International Genealogical Index / ME
Gender: Female Christening: 23 JUL 1873 La Asuncion, Pachuca De Soto, Hidalgo, Mexico hija de Jesus Arias y Benita espinosa o Spinola

Faustino Reynoso Casado con Maria Maciel el 14 Jun 1875 en Santa Catarina Martir México D:F M619075 film 003634 (no tengo padres de ambos)

Jose Carlos samuel Contreras 05 aug 1900 Tequipehua D.F. Batch I014600 film 36490

Juan Alfonso Contreras arias. 24 jun 1899 Asunsion Parish Pachuca de Soto Hidalgo batch I028839 film 266527 sui mamá es Herminia y su papa es Juan E Contreras pero

no tengo a sus abuelos.. busco a los papas de Juan E Contreras y los abuelos de Herminia Aurora

alguien que tenga la manera de ver quienes eran los abuelos? alguien que vaya por los films o algo? estaré agradecida siempre candil de la calle oscuridad de mi casa apenas son mis abuelos y de los 4 lados de tres lados no tengo nada snif, snif, snif...

Muchas Gracias... Lety Reynoso

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ADMINISTRADOR DE LAS HACIENDAS DE D. MANUEL DEL CAMINO. ZACATECAS.

Archivo General de la Nación/ Instituciones Coloniales/ Inquisición/ Inquisición (61)/ Volumen 932/

Título: Expediente 1
Fecha(s): AÑO 1751

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tu ancestro se ponia tambien perez deñ camino, si es asi en el archivo de pares españa esta un señor Manuel Perez del Camino, por meritos, y otra cosa, , ademas de que creo era corregidor
checalo
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

Cruz family in Atoyac, Mexico

thank you so much for your help.? When I offered to do some genealogy for a friend I didn't realized it would be so complicated. I can now start with his fathers side and work
?my back.?

VICENTE NUNGARAY

Lety:

Hace unos dias te pedi si tenias informacion de mi bisabuelo VICENTE NUNGARAY, quien se caso en TALPA DE ALLENDE en 1874 y de quien no he podido obtener ni un dato mas.

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Es que de Vicente ya no encontré nada más por eso ya no te contesté, a mi no me es posible ver los archivos directamente, sólo através del familysearch..sino hay que ir al archivo..saludos Lety R

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Feliz aniversario Messenger!
www.aniversariomessenger.com.mx

Achivo General de la Nacion

ALguien ya pudo ver el contenido de las dos coincidencias de Petronila Motezuma que estan en
Regio Patronato Indiano

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Es una pregunta o afirmación?

Are you asking a question or are you making a statement? I am interested in
Petronila de Moctezuma, like many in this forum.

Thank you.
John Gonzalez.

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> ALguien ya pudo ver el contenido de las dos coincidencias de Petronila
> Motezuma que estan en Regio Patronato Indiano
>

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I did not know that they had already loaded digital images onto the AGN website. When I was there a couple of years back I was told that they were in the midst of a digitiaztion project but you know how those things go, particularly in Mexico, but I agree with Salvador that the tool works very well...

Just pilfering through there I found a "limpieza de sangre" of this couple which I believe are the ancestors of many Ranchos members. Unfortunately it is not one of the documents for which the digital image has been loaded on the site.

Archivo General de la Nación/ Instituciones Coloniales/ Inquisición/ Inquisición (61)/ Volumen 491/

Título: Expediente 2
Fecha(s): AÑO 1627
Nivel de descripción: Unidad documental compuesta (Expediente)
Volumen y soporte: Fojas: 72
Productores: (Pendiente)

Alcance y contenido: INFORMACION DE LA GENEALOGIA Y LIMPIEZA DE LINAJE DE FRANCISCO MARTIN GALLARDO Y TERESA DE RODAS, SU MUJER, PARA FAMILIAR. GUANAJUATO.

Gallegos - Lety

Lety, 
Esta informacion es para que compares con la que ya tienes.
Carlos Antonio Gallegos caso con Manuela de la Camara y Menoyo o Menoio el 27 de Marzo 1769, Nochistlan, Zac.

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Lety, encontre a otra Gertrudis Gallegos nacida en Nochistlan, Zac. casada con Ygnacio de La
Mora Hurtado de Mendoza, el 23 Nov 1789, Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jal.

Encontre a un Antto. Gallegos, ch: 3 Apr 1748, San Andres Zautla, Oaxaca, [C609922 (1733-1767) 0683499] sus padres Joseph Antto. y Maria Gallegos.

-Esther

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Se trata de la misma Gertrudis casada con Juan María de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza, la cual casó en primeras nupcias con Ignacio de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza.

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

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