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GREGORIO ELIZALDE BAÑUELOS

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Busco fecha nacimiento de GREGORIO ELIZALDE BAÑUELOS , cuyos padres JOSE EDUARDO ELIZALDE + 25 JUNIO 1816 en Guadalcazar S.L.P. con PETRA BAÑUELOS .

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According to Family Search:

Jose Gregorio Elizalde, baptized 14 May 1825, San Pedro, Guadalcazar, San Luis Potosi, Mexico

Film: 709013

This film is not yet available online.

There are also two other children of this family baptized in San Pedro.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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Agradezco la informacion que me das....pero en Family Search records no aparece dicha acta. en donde podrè encontrarla??

Lo mismo sucede con su hija MACEDONIA ELIZALDE SALAS, de la que sòlo sè que nace en Aguascalientes, pero no encuentro su acta de bautizo ni de matrimonio,

Ella es mi bisabuela. Gracias

Macedonia Jauregui and Margarito Armas from la Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas

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So if someone is familiar with this names please don't hesitate to give me some info they were both born in La Jabonera a rancho right out side Nochistlan Zacatecas and that's all i know and they are

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Just I am writing here to greet.

My mother's family is native from La Jabonera. I have been there a few times (en los papaquis). I amazed when I saw La Jabonera in the title.

My mother was born in 1949 and lived in La Jabonera in her childhood, maybe she met some of your relatives. I don't know when my grandparents arrived to La Jabonera but my mother was teenager when they moved to Nochistlán. They are Rodríguez González.

Well, like I said, just writing to greet.

Good look with your search!

Luis Arturo Huerta Rodrìguez

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Looking in Family Search gives several people with these names in this area, or nearby.

There is one entry from the 1930 census that may be of interest (this is for Margarita, and not Margarito; considering the location, La Jabonera, this family could be related to your gr-gr-grandparents), but without any dates in your posting it is difficult to help:

Name: Margarita Armas
Head of Household: Santiago Armas
Age: 25a
Residence: La Jabonera, Nochistlán, Zacatecas, Mexico
Estimated Birth Year: 1905
Birthplace: Zacatecas
Gender: Female
Sexo: Mujer
Civil Status: Single
Marital Status (Spanish): Soltero
Film Number: 1520536
Digital Folder Number: 4108037
Image Number: 00061
Page Number: 133
Line Number:
Household Gender Age
Santiago Armas M 60a
Atanasia Marín F 40a
Margarita Armas F 25a
Antonio Armas M 20a
José Armas M 15a
Agustina Armas F 14a

The extracted Church records typically go to the 1880/90 period, but the online records go well into the

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Abram Flores
Thanks for the help but the person Im looking for is Margarito Armas.Sorry i dont't have the dates but Im looking forward to find out when Margarito Armas And Macedonia Jauregui were born all i know is that they were born at La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas.Their son Mauricio Armas married Visenta Munoz Mauricio Armas born 1906 Visenta Munoz born 1908 both born in La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas

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Have you browsed the civil registrations? A lot of times the books have
indexes which makes it easier then browsing the church records. The link
for the civil registrations of Nochistlán is
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.f…
http://goo.gl/t8M1B

Armando

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM, wrote:

> Abram Flores
> Thanks for the help but the person Im looking for is Margarito Armas.Sorry
> i dont't have the dates but Im looking forward to find out when Margarito
> Armas And Macedonia Jauregui were born all i know is that they were born
> at La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas.Their son Mauricio Armas married
> Visenta Munoz Mauricio Armas born 1906 Visenta Munoz born 1908 both born in
> La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas
>

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Mauricio's family is listed in the 1930 census for La Jabonera:

Name: Mauricio Armas
Head of Household:
Age: 24a
Residence: La Jabonera, Nochistlán, Zacatecas, Mexico
Estimated Birth Year: 1906
Birthplace: Zacatecas
Gender: Male
Sexo: Hombre
Civil Status: Married both Civilly and in the Church
Marital Status (Spanish): Casado por lo Civil y la Iglesia
Film Number: 1520536
Digital Folder Number: 4108037
Image Number: 00070
Page Number: 138
Line Number:
Household Gender Age
Mauricio Armas M 24a
Visenta Muñoz F 22a
J Guadalupe Armas M 6a
Baudelia Armas F 4a
Catalina Armas F 2a
J Candelario Armas M 1m

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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Abram Flores
Thanks for this info but the info that i need is their parents which are Margarito Armas and Macedonia jauregui.All i know about them is that they were born in La Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas.And if possibly info about their parents name

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I think it looks like you'll have to do some investigating around the Nochistlan records. Usually, researchers would have investigate the latter records usually 1821-modern day in order to be able to connect to research that has been completed. Once you reach the early XIX century, it is likely you will connect to other people's research. This will require you to search page by page, book by book, in order to find the extact information you desire. It is a tedious job, but if one is willing to invest their time, it is very fulfilling. Most likely your Jauregui will connect to "the Jauregui" family of Nochistlan, very old spanish family that has been in Nochistlan from the late 1600s, I believe they originated from Sevilla, if I remember correctly. Be prepared for you research to take you most likely into Jalisco, Aguascalientes and other parts in Zacatecas. For most of us, our ancestors moved a lot during the centuries. My mother is from the capital city of Aguascalientes, my
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Abram Flores
Yea your right but its so difficult iv'e been doing research for about 2 to 3 weeks on these individuals Margarito Armas and Macedonia Jauregui and nothing so many people with that name in the rancho La Jabonera they where born in Zacatecas.And when im trying to look for their census record or marriage record ect they never appear Their names appear correctly but the place shows incorrectly and the info.But im still not giving up yet.Wow that is very interesting can't wait to find out what part of europe my family originally came from how exciting, but that is going to take hard and long work of researching like you mentioned.

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The jauregui tree in tepa, jalos, valle de gpe. San miguel el alto mexticacan teocaltiche and Nochistlan has been a struggle for me for many years. Look up the name by Jaure. Xaurugui. Xaur. Good luck and Happy new year.
Rick A ricci
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Abram Flores
Yea your right but its so difficult iv'e been doing research for about 2 to 3 weeks on these individuals Margarito Armas and Macedonia Jauregui and nothing so many people with that name in the rancho La Jabonera they where born in Zacatecas.And when im trying to look for their census record or marriage record ect they never appear Their names appear correctly but the place shows incorrectly and the info.But im still not giving up yet.Wow that is very interesting can't

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Abram,

Geneology takes a lot of time and a lot of patience. It also takes dedication to this very tedious lifetime journey. In the process you learn where your ancestors have been. Don't get so focused on just one Rancho like la Jabonera. It could encompass many other ranchos, haciendas and localities in surrounding areas. You go where the evidence leads you and you will find that it' not always correct. Enjoy the journey and the contact with your ancestors and be prepared for the long road ahead of you!

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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Abram Flores
Yea your right but its so difficult iv'e been doing research for about 2 to 3 weeks on these individuals Margarito Armas and Macedonia Jauregui and nothing so many people with that name in the rancho La Jabonera they where born in Zacatecas.And when im

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Abram, like Alicia I have found many people on Familysearch and Ancestry but the majority have been from reading a record page by page and investing the time and patience it takes to reclaim our ancestors and families.  I had no intention of working on anything but my direct lines but found there were so many families marrying into the same families I expanded my records. I've been working on them for almost 20 years now with Family in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan for the most part. By working together I was able to help Daniel take our Mendez line back even further and he took it all the way to Spain.  In working together I've been helped and helped others make advances by opening our minds to surnames that made no sense at the time or women who used 3 or 4 surnames and I had them as 3 or 4 different lines.  I'm still learning..
My files are on Rootsweb.com because that is a free site and Ancestry charges people to search records even though they are the same company.  My file is

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Abram Flores
So iv'e been looking over the church records and baptism records but poorly i'v only found their census.The census just tells me what estimated year they were born and the name of their husband and wife and their children but i need info of Mauricio Armas parents like date of birth date of marriage date of death and if possibly the names of Mauricio Grandparents.
Mauricio Armas Parents are:dad Margarito Armas and mother Macedonia Jauregui
both born in la Jabonera Nochistlan Zacatecas

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The church records and baptism records are one thing. The civil records are
another. Have you browsed the civil records in the link I sent you? The
only way you will be able to find more info on these people is by finding
the birth record of Mauricio Armas, or a sibling, so you can get the names
of the grandparents or by finding the marriage record of Margarito Armas
and Macedonia Jauregui so you can get the names of the parents and go from
there. You are the one that is going to have to find that info. Until then
it is unlikely you will get what you are looking for.

Armando

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:18 PM, wrote:

> Abram Flores
> So iv'e been looking over the church records and baptism records but
> poorly i'v only found their census.The census just tells me what estimated
> year they were born and the name of their husband and wife and their
> children but i need info of Mauricio Armas parents like date of birth date
> of marriage date of death and if possibly the names of

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Abram Flores
Im still on it but its so difficult looking through the marriage records i can bearly understand their writing and plus im going page by page it's so exhausting but hopefully i find what i need soon.Im going to try and do that and see if it helps thanks.

Saludos a todos y Feliz Año

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Estoy en busca de los Morales. Mi abuelo materno, QUEPD, era Jose Concepción Morales Martinez de El Valle de Guadalupe Jalisco. He topado con piedra.

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Hola María:

Igualmente para tí, te deseo un muy feliz año nuevo, que esté lleno de muchas bendiciones.
Estuve investigando acerca de tus abuelos, mira creo que aquí la información que necesitas. Primeramente comencé con tu abuelo José Matilde Ramírez, la búsqueda en familysearch me arrojo dos parejas de Matilde casado con una Martín. Tratándose de tus abuelos, descarte a la primera de Matilde Ramírez con María Vicenta Martín, porque bautizan a una hija en 1802 y es muy lejana la fecha para que se trate de tus abuelos. La segunda seguramente es la tuya, ellos son Matilde Ramírez con Higenia Martín, en los registros hasta ahorita me aparecen sólo dos hijos, estos son Luciano que es bautizado el 9 de Enero de 1896 en Jalostotitlán y María Petronila en Tepatitlán el 4 de Junio de 1897. Te busqué el acta original de Luciano para ver los abuelos, pero no estaba donde se supone que debería de estar, a veces esto suele ocurrir que ponen una fecha que es incorrecta quizá por unos meses o días

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Enrique:

No sabes lo muchísimo que te agradezco que te hayas tomado el tiempo, y con tal precisión, para ayudarme. Tus datos me parecen muy, muy correctos ya que mi abuelita si tuvo un hermano de nombre Luciano. Así que, por supuesto que me has ayudado.

Un feliz año para tí y los tuyos. Espero pronto conocerte a tí y todos nuestros hermanos.

Atentamente,

Maria Jimenez

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María:

No hay problema, para eso está este grupo para ayudarnos. Mucha suerte con tus ancestros que siguen.
Esperemos poder un día conocernos todos como lo has dicho. Los mejores deseos para el próximo año, que te la pases muy bien. Un abrazo.

Enrique Agraz

Jalisco records

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sorry, looks like I just changed the file name from Jalisco to Zapotlan.. all is well and thank you anyway..
Linda Castanon-Long
 
Happy New Year
 

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To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jalisco records

In cleaning my Favorites I accidentally deleted the address for the Jalisco records. I would appreciate if someone can send it to me. I tried accessing the one on Family search but it's not the complete file that includes Tamazula and Zapotlan where my research in centered and so starts the New Year~

thank you..
Linda in Everett

Saludos a todos y Feliz Año

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Estoy en busca de los Morales. Mi abuelo materno, QUEPD, era Jose Concepción Morales Martinez de El Valle de Guadalupe Jalisco. He topado con piedra.

New Familysearch

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Dear Group,
Due to the holidays, I hadn't returned to working on the new familysearch in a few weeks.  The format has apparently changed a bit.  I'm having difficulty finding a way to enter a rang

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Alice

I assume you are referring to https://www.familysearch.org/ (which is for the general user) and not https://new.familysearch.org (also called New Family Search, which is mainly for Church members).

After you enter a name on the main search screen, click on one of the life events on the line immediately below the name. This allows you to enter a location and a date range. You can enter any range that is appropriate; to search only in one year, enter the same year for the beginning and ending years.

After the search results come up, you can change the range, if needed, to narrow or broaden the time period as needed. You may need to click to the "Refine your search" link to make this feature visible.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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George,
I was starting wrong by scrolling down to browse by location first and clicking US, Canada, Mexico; then to collection name.  Thanks so much for your help. 

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Date: Thursday, December 29, 2011, 5:01 AM

Alice

I assume you are referring to https://www.familysearch.org/ (which is for the general user) and not https://new.familysearch.org (also called New Family Search, which is mainly for Church members).

After you enter a name on the main search screen, click on one of the life events on the line immediately below the name. This allows you to enter a location and a date range. You can enter any range that is appropriate; to search only in one year, enter the same year for the beginning and ending years.

After the search results come up, you can change the range, if needed, to narrow or broaden the time period as needed. You may

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GuadalajaraDispensas: 1686-1800 FHL Source Film 168111 / OAH 2440 Extractions Online

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Posted today at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
Now posted: 1686-1800 FHL Source Film 168111
Nuevo archivo: 1686-1800 rollo OAH 2440

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Claudia

Thank you for this set of records! The Villalpando dispensation added some new descendants for Tomas de Villalpando of Aguascalientes.

Happy New Year!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

GuadalajaraDispensas: 1733-1740 FHL Source Film 168373 / OAH 2656 pt5 Extractions Online

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Posted today at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
Now posted: 1733-1740 FHL Source Film 168373
Nuevo archivo: 1733-1740 rollo OAH 2656 pt5

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Hello Claudia. Was this one supposed to be something different? It is a
repeat of 8 Nov 2011
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/11/1733-1740-fhl-source-film-1…

Saludos
Armando

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote:

> Posted today at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
> Now posted: 1733-1740 FHL Source Film 168373
> Nuevo archivo: 1733-1740 rollo OAH 2656 pt5

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Hi Armando - thanks for pointing this out! It indeed was a repeat post, but I have now posted a NEW file: 1733-1740 FHL Source Film 168373 / OAH 2656 pt5
I will be posting a few more before end of December. Keep an eye out!

Happy new year everyone!

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com
www.sagradamitra.com

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Claudia,
Thank you again for all you do.  Happy New Year to you and yours and to all Nuestros Ranchos members.    Alice

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] GuadalajaraDispensas:
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 10:58 PM

Hi Armando - thanks for pointing this out! It indeed was a repeat post, but I have now posted a NEW file: 1733-1740 FHL Source Film 168373 / OAH 2656 pt5 I will be posting a few more before end of December. Keep an eye out!

Happy new year everyone!

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com
www.sagradamitra.com

Best DNA test provider

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Hello all:

I know that others have asked in the past, so I apologize. But I just want to make sure if Family Tree DNA is the way to go.

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Lee Castillo

What time frame for your Pineda family? I am researching in Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico and occasionally find some Pineda's. Haven't found a Pineda/Cardoza combination.

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I don't know if they are the best, but I think they are pretty good.
As for the tests, Y-12 gives you too many 12/12 matches from people not really closely related to you. The more markers the better, I would go with the Y-37 or Y-67 one. They currently have these tests on sale, but I think the offer ends by the end of the year.
Best regards,
Victoriano Navarro

DE LA ROSA from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico

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Help please. I have several questions regarding the de la Rosa family from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I will start with the shorter ones so that they don’t get lost in this lengthy request.

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Lee Castillo

Film Number 1092772 for Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico San Juan Bautista Informacion matrimonial 1783, 1790-1792, 1796-1800, 1802-1803 - in addition to marriage information this microfilm contains marriage records from Image 181-207 for 1783 and 1784.

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For your Seferino de la Rosa and Maria Bictoria Saldivar have you ordered
the film 1093324 (1754-1837), San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zac.? You should
be able to find both of them and maybe their parents names?
--Esther

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM, wrote:

> Help please. I have several questions regarding the de la Rosa family
> from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I will start with the shorter ones so that
> they don’t get lost in this lengthy request.
>
> First let me start by saying thank you for this website. I have learned
> to do searches and read information before asking questions as some of the
> time those questions have already been asked and answered. I have found a
> lot of information. Thank you!
>
> 1. I contacted Borderlands bookstore looking for GENEALOGIA DE NOTCHISTLAN
> ANTIGUO REINO DE LA NUEVA GALICIA EN EL SIGLO XVII SEGUN SUS ARCHIVOS
> PARROQUIALES by José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías. It is out of
> print. Could someone who has a copy please tell me

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Film 1093324 (1754-1837) is online. There is no need to order it.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-104210-71?cc=1410092&w…

Saludos
Armando

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Esther Jordan wrote:

> For your Seferino de la Rosa and Maria Bictoria Saldivar have you ordered
> the film 1093324 (1754-1837), San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zac.? You should
> be able to find both of them and maybe their parents names?
> --Esther
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM, wrote:
>
> > Help please. I have several questions regarding the de la Rosa family
> > from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I will start with the shorter ones so
> that
> > they don’t get lost in this lengthy request.
> >
> > First let me start by saying thank you for this website. I have learned
> > to do searches and read information before asking questions as some of
> the
> > time those questions have already been asked and answered. I have found
> a
> > lot of information. Thank you!
> >
> > 1. I contacted

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Lee Castillo

Thank you I have been through Film 1093324 which has both baptisms and some marriages and has also been extracted and put online by familysearch.org. Unfortuntely there are a number of years missing. I have also been through marriage records, using marriage info when marriage records aren't available.

Family Tree DNA

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I have used Family Tree DNA. I have used the Y-DNA 67 marker, and the mtDNA,
and have been pleased with the results. However, the Family Finder test has
been a disappointment.

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I've had no interest in it. I don't think it's worth the price of such a test.

I believe the DNA profile will fit almost everybody from Mexico. Kind of like reading the Astrology section in the newspaper.

Jose Carlos de Leon

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That's as true as saying the U.S. never put a man on the moon or that
radiocarbon dating doesn't prove the age of anything. It's unfortunate
there are still a lot of people that have such a limited understanding of
science even in this day and age.

Armando

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> I've had no interest in it. I don't think it's worth the price of such a
> test.
>
> I believe the DNA profile will fit almost everybody from Mexico. Kind of
> like reading the Astrology section in the newspaper.
>
> Jose Carlos de Leon
>

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When I first started working on my family tree over thirty years ago I thought that I would find my tree to be half indian and half spanish. I mistakenly believed that most mexicans would find this to be thE case.
It wasn't until I started my research that I found that I had a mulatto ancestor from the late 1600's. Then I found that I descended from petronila Moctezuma, A descendent of Moctezuma II.
Through my research, I discovered that over 90 per cent of my tree is espanol with an increasing percentage of converso ancestry and a little muslim thrown in. The more research that I do, the more evidence I find of conversos in my ancestry despite proclamations stating the contrary. All mexicans do not share the same DNA. With all the endogamy in our families of course you will find many similar branches But You will also find differences that make our trees unique.
I have not had myself tested for my DNA but your arguement may lead me to finally getting it done
RIck A Ricci

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when I had my Gutierrez family DNA done it came back Haplogroup N..found in Siberia, Russia and Finland. I traced this family back to Michoacan abt 1650 and moving to Jalisco in abt 1780.. my only perfect match was a person who's family immigrated to the U.S. in the 1800's.
2 years ago I discovered I have exfoliation glaucoma and that it is genetic and mostly found in people in Finland.  There is also a subclade of N3 found in Seville, Spain and thought to come there with the retinue of the grandchildren of Cortes/Moctezuma. They had many Yndios with them.
I found it interesting.. so did my Mothers Gutierrez family.
My personal MTDNA came back Native American Haplogroup A.. Nahua in Mexico but the book in Nuestros book section showed the bands who carried the 4 MTNDA types, what a wonderful lesson in how our ancestors moved and traveled through the centuries. I personally am glad I had them done.. Oh, my Fathers Castanon DNA came back R1B.

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I've had no interest in it. I don't think it's worth the price of such a test.

I believe the DNA profile will fit almost everybody from Mexico. Kind of like reading the Astrology section in the newspaper.

Jose Carlos de Leon

Gemelos Maria y Jesus Diaz

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Hola Primo:

I need to tell you that I found baptism registration for twins Maria and
Jesus Diaz our records show that they were born from Alejandro Diaz Leaños
and Maria Marcos Puentes Varela.

GuadalajaraDispensas: 1722-1748 FHL Source Film 168608 / OAH 3032 online

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Now posted: 1722-1748 FHL Source Film 168608
Nuevo archivo: OAH 3032
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

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Claudia:

Thank you so much for your efforts on indexing the marriage dispensations from Guadalajara.

From your most recent posting, I have found a new branch of the very prolific and distinguished Covarrubias/Talamantes clan. The following entry from film 1722-1748 FHL Source Film 168608 has the information:

022 ignacio talamantes & juana maria de la concha / tlaltenango

Jacinto and Isabel had an additional hereunto unknown son named Francisco Talamantes who must have left Totatiche/Tlaltenango at an early age to work in the mines in Durango and Chihuahua. He had a son named Ygnacio born in the Real de Papigochi likely sometime in the 1690s and another named Francisco born in Parral, Chihuahua in 1697. Ygnacio returned to Totatiche to marry a great-grandaughter of Jacinto and Isabel named Juana Maria de la Concha.

It is likely that we have found yet another origin of the Chihuahua Talamantes clan, one of whom later was a founder of Los Angeles, in Tlaltenango.

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It is my philosophy that by sharing research freely--rather than hoarding information---we all rapidly advance our work. I hope many here agree and also share what they have with us. When one benefits, we all benefit.

Saludos,
Claudia
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Claudia,

You have set the bar very high for the rest of us. What you have done and continue to do for the group and for all those researching their Mexican roots is beyond words.

By your hard work and dedication, you have put your words into action. While I have yet to find any connections in the dispensas de Guadalajara, I'm sure the day will come when I will use it as a resource.

My sincerest and deepest gratitude goes out to you.

Muchas Gracias prima de Nuestros Ranchos!!

Alicia Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

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It is my philosophy that by sharing research freely--rather than hoarding information---we all rapidly advance our work. I hope many here agree and also share what they have with us. When one benefits, we all benefit.

Saludos,
Claudia
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Familia "Ceja" en Michoacan...

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Hola,

Hay alguien en el grupo que este o haya estudiado las lineas de la familia Ceja en la region de la Cienega Michoacana (Zamora, Sahuayo, Jiquilpan)?

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Victor M Gomez
HOLA ROBERTO

YO TENGO A UN ANTONIO CEJA DE JIQUILPAN QUE SE CASO CON MARIA JOSEFINA MARTINEZ Y ENTRE SUS HIJOS ESTA ANTONIO CEJA MARTINEZ QUE NACIO ENTRE 1819 Y 1822, Y MURIO EN 1894 EN GUADALAJARA, JAL. QUE VIENE SIENDO MI 4TO ABUELO, EL CUAL CASO Y QUEDO VIUDO EN JIQUILPAN Y SE TRASLADO A GUADALAJARA, AQUI SE CASO CON ZENONA LEDESMA EN 1850 Y TUVIERON FAMILIA, DE SUS ANCESTROS SOLO ME QUEDE HASTA SUS PADRES, YA QUE POR LO COMUN DEL APELLIDO Y FALTA DE DATOS EN LOS REGISTROS DE BAUTIZOS ES MUY DIFICIL LOCALIZAR MAYOR INFORMACION.

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Hola Victor,

Solamente tengo la informacion de la partida de bautismo de mi Abuela y la informacion del censo de 1930, y puedo decir que... mi Abuela, quien aun vive, nacio en las Zarquillas y fue bautisada en Villamar, Mich., su Padre fue Jose Maria Ceja Ceja y Abuelo Crispin Ceja, quien segun el censo de 1930 pudo haber nacido alrededor de 1864, pero aun no he encontrado su partida de bautismo para comprobarlo. El apellido Ceja es bastante comun en esa region de Michoacan, al igual que los Ochoa, Garibay y Alejandre. He leido que quizas el apellido Ceja tenga su origen en los apellidos Libaneses "Seiha y Chiha", pero aun no puedo decir que sea cierto en lo que a mis ancestros se refiere.

Gracias,
Roberto Hdez

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Hola Roberto

Creo que somos parientes lejanos porque yo tengo varias lineas genealogicas que tienen de origen en la region de la Cienega Michoacana. Mis padres y abuelos son de Coalcoman, Michoacan pero las generaciones mas antiguas eran originarios de la region de la Cienega Michoacana. Yo no soy desendiente de los Ceja pero si he notado que algunos de los familiares de mis ancestros se casaban con los Ceja. Algunas de las parroquias donde he encontrado registros de mis antepasados son en las siguentes Jiquilpan,Sahuayo,Cotija, Zamora, Jaripo, Ixtlan, Ario de Rayon, Chavinda y Santiago Tagmandapio

Rafael Meraz

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Hola Rafael,

Gracias por tomarte el tiempo de contestar.

Si, puede ser que tengamos algun parentesco en alguna de nuestras lineas. Mis 2 Abuelas (Paterna, casada con un Jalisience y Materna, casada con un Guanajuantense) son originarias de la region Cienega Michoacana, pero aun no he estudiado a fondo con que familias enparentaron sus ancestros. No tengo mucha experiencia y solo me dedico a buscar un solo apellido a la vez, ahora es el turno de los "Ceja". Mi Abuela, quien aun vive, fue bautizada en Villamar, Mich., su Padre fue Jose Maria Ceja Ceja y Abuelo Crispin Ceja. Veremos que mas informacion puedo encontrar...

Gracias,
Roberto Hdez

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Estimado Rafael,

Me da gusto que estamos estudiando la misma region. También tengo mis búsquedas en Jiquilpán, Sahuayo, Zamora y Cotija. La familia de mi padre se establecieron en Zamora a los fines del siglo XVI cuando enlazaron Antonio Méndez de Sotomayor, “el viejo” y María de Torres Fuentes quienes instituyeron el linaje “Méndez de Torres.” Luego pasaron a lugares como Pénjamo, Valle de Santiago, León, Guanajuato, Jiquilpán, Tlazazalca, Morelia, Ciudad de México, Ayo el Chico, Arandas, y Tamazula de Gordiano. Después de Tamazula pasaron a Guadalajara donde nació mi padre. Debemos platicar más sobre el Obispado de Michoacán ya que aquí es el lugar adecuado en el foro, por ser fuera de estudio.

Un saludo,

Daniel Méndez-Camino

Godoy's de Tlaltenango

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Joseph,

1) Is Jose Antonio Godoy, married to Ma. Candelaria de Orozco, brother of Jose Maria Godoy, married to Juana Eledesma Velasco?

Raíces de España en la Nueva Galicia

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Buenas tardes,

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Tengo entendido que aun no hay fecha para la presentacion formal de estos libros.
Me informaron que esta "preventa" antes de la presentacion, se hizo debido a la espectativa existente entorno suyo, algo que normalmente no se hace con las publicaciones de la Secretaría de Cultura.

Miguel Beltran

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Bertha:

Hay una confusion, seguramente al profe Raul no le explicaron esto: Se han agotado los ejemplares que estaban disponibles para "PREVENTA".
Tengo conocimiento de que una vez que se haga la presentacion oficial de la coleccion, se liberarán los paquetes que aún quedan. Y seguirán estando a la venta en la libreria Mariano Azuela de Secretaría de Cultura de Jalisco. Puedes confirmarlo.

http://tinyurl.com/79ezj2b

Miguel Beltran

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Miguel

Muchisimas gracias por la información, el Prof. Raul me informó que la
librería está cerrada por el resto del año por inventario, pero le pasaré el
informe para que se esté al pendiente. Tienes tú una idea de cuando será la
presentación ? Gracias por el enlace, voy a consultarlo.

Bertha M. de Boehm

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> Bertha:
>
> Hay una confusion, seguramente al profe Raul no le explicaron esto: Se han
> agotado los ejemplares que estaban disponibles para "PREVENTA".
> Tengo conocimiento de que una vez que se haga la presentacion oficial de
> la coleccion, se liberarán los paquetes que aún quedan. Y seguirán
> estando a la venta en la libreria Mariano Azuela de Secretaría de Cultura
> de Jalisco. Puedes confirmarlo.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/79ezj2b
> Miguel Beltran

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Hola amigos de Nuestros Ranchos:

Hemos tenido muy mala suerte para conseguir la obra de Dn. Mariano González Leal, "Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia". El Prof. Raúl Hurtado trató de conseguirnos los 10 tomos en una librería de Guadalajara y le informaron que ya están agotados, alguien de Uds. sabe en donde más se pueden comprar?. En cuanto recibamos la devolución de nuesrto dinero, estaremos listos para adquirirlos ya sea de México o de aquí de USA. Ojalá que alguien pueda ayudarnos.

Muchas gracias y Feliz Navidad y Año Nuevo para todos.

Bertha M. de Boehm y Guenter Boehm
Herkimer, N.Y.

Nada mejor para presentarnos que la entrevista que nos hizo el cronista de Isla Mujeres, Qintana Roo, hace apenas algunos días durante nuestras vacaciones en ese hermoso lugar.
http://www.boehm-chronik.com/mexico/periodico.htm

Bertha busca en Tepatitlán Jal. a sus antepasados - Navarro, Aceves, Martín, Díaz, Gutiérrez, González y De la Torre.
En Guadalajara Jal. - Ramírez, Valdés,

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