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Yes, they are a group from Mexico DF/Jalostotitlan that have funded many books relating to Los Altos de Jalisco. I believe the group is made of Gutierrez brothers from the Media Hanega Ranch in the Municipio of Jalos.

Joseph why the question?

Sergio Gutierrez

No aparece. ¿La envio adjunta?

Saludos

Israel Valles
Durango, MX

2011/4/29 Rafael Jauregui

>
>

My experience is that a different spelling of a name, by itself, has no significance in identifying a family or individual.

Over twenty years doing genealogy research has made it clear to me that until the early twentieth century, there was almost no "standard" spelling. I have encountered many spelling variations for even simple names, sometimes within the same record for the same person. Lack of education, "phonetic" spelling, miscopying poor or nearly illegible handwriting, and just plain errors all contribute to the diversity of spelling.

In Jalisco records, I've found my surname not only as PAREDES but also as PAREDEZ, PREDES, PADERES, and PADEREZ, plus other variations I may have forgotten. The name got mangled as much or more in Texas records: my GGF's 1899 marriage record lists him as Juan PADUEZ. PAREDES was even misspelled on my high school diploma. Even today, misteaks happpen.

~ Bert Paredes

@}-->----- @}-->----- {@} -----<--{@ -----<--{@
I admire a man who can spell a word more than one way.
- Mark Twain

Hi Joseph,

Like my cousin Linda, I believe the priest made the choices. I would think priest would
have gone through grammer school but again with all the changes to Castilian over
the centuries. The Portuguese form is Pires a bit different. MOst people did not
see the church records only those who would try to "get into something"; court,
job, college or notary records. There are many documents that when we are lucky
we can see their signature.

Daniel Méndez Camino

I think the scribe made the choice, I have cousins who are siblings, one who's
parents went by the census Rebeles and the rest of the family is Reveles. I
would appear most of our ancestors never saw the records and many could not read
or write so had no idea of the changes from C to Z and S to Z and visa versa
through the years.  I also see the changes in the name Morillo/Murillo, many of
these records especially as witness say they cannot sign because they cannot
read or write.

just my opinion,
Linda in Boulder City

________________________________
From: Joseph Puentes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 4:38:10 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Perez v. Peres: "z" v. "s"

a non member of the group sent this message in and I would like to send him any
comments the group might offer:

Joseph,
I'm noticing that as I dig into the 1800s that names like perez, cruz, gonzalez
are appearing as peres, crus, gonzales.
I'm actually per the Mexican 1930s Census a

Thanks Natalie,

We've arrived here, had dinner with about 12 other members and look forward to
tomorrow. Wish you and others could be here.

Alicia

________________________________
From: "nc_coleman@yahoo.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Fri, April 29, 2011 3:25:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NGGS Conference in SoCal

Dear NGGS:
Wishing you a wonderful conference. I hope all attendees will enjoy it. Wish I
was there.
I look forward to reading reports from the attendees and organizers.

Natalie C. Coleman

PS - I consider Cucamonga my stomping grounds, as I lived there with an aunt,
when I was in H.S. (Chaffey) and Jr. College, in a house my grandfather had
purchased in the 1930's. My grandfather and father had at one time worked for
the Italian Vineyard Co, in Guasti, CA. The Ontario International Airport now
sits on the land that once were grape vineyards.

All of the relevant batch numbers with IGI and VRI indices are available through the FILMS section of Nuestros Ranchos with buttons you can click to take you directly to familysearch.org's listings for that batch/film.

I don't have Tomas Valdez in my research but I do have Jose Maria and Estefana
Muro with 2 daughters, Juliana and Maria Jesus.  My records are on Rootsweb.com
and my file name is Mexico.  I will be updating the records in a week or so. If
Tomas is there son then I need to change their approximate dates of birth. Can
you tell me the film number for the marriage record for Tomas?
Linda in Boulder City

________________________________
From: "andrewsbarbara@charter.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 8:16:34 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Tomas Valdes, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico

Hello Everyone, I have just recently started researching my ancestry.  So happy
to find this site so specific to the area I'm researching.  I have been trying
to move passed my gr gr grandfather Tomas Valdes, b. 1835 in "Jerez, y vecino de
los Cuervos" according to his marriage documents. Also, according to the
marriage documents he was "hijo ligitimo de Jose Maria

I took a quick look in Family Search, and did not find much, either. I found no references to Jerez, but I also noted in the FHL card catalog there are gaps in the church records. This could account for the missing info. The Jerez records are online.

I did note, however, some records for the families Valdes-Muro and Valdes-Varela in Tepetongo, a town not too far from Jerez. Films for this town are online.

Have you verified the marriage info with the matrimonial investigation? This may clear up the apparent discrepancy.

Could there be two Tomas Valdes's?

If you have the IGI batch numbers, you can search the IGI with less information (just a father's last name, for example). This is for the old Family Search site, and not the new one. Some are available at http://mexicoigibatchnumbers.wetpaint.com/ If your local Family History Library still has the "Parish and Vital Records List" (or index) microfiche, it will have a more complete list. Get the most recent copy available (this might

Maria,

Sorry Claudia, no obvious links yet. But I do have some unassociated
Peres's who married into the Ruiz line. I look forward to meeting you
Saturday.

Claudia, do you know anymore about Diego Ruiz, bap 30 Sep 1691 in Cuquio,
son of Diego Ruiz and Ana Gonzalez? He also could conceivably be my Diego,
too.
I won't be able to get back to my local FHC til 5/11 to do any more film
searches.

Raquel Ruiz

HI Lorenzo send over what info what you have on your great grandfather, name, place rank
if you have any more info. Maybe I can investigate something.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Welcome Bert:

Bartolome Ruiz de Esparza married Petra Garcia on 8 May 1731 in Cienega de Mata, he was the son
Joseph RUiz de Esparza and a woman named Juana Maria, Petra was the daughter of Antonio Garcia
and Nicolasa de Villegas, I would order the marriage record to see if any other information can
be found.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Isn't it interesting that this type of dwelling is universal!  The thatch roof atop rock, wood, or wattle and daub walls can be found throughout the ancient old world and indigineous new world.  Small world, great minds.   Alice 

--- On Sun, 4/24/11, zacatecano020@hotmail.com wrote:

From: zacatecano020@hotmail.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dwelling Structure Of Huejuquilla, Jalisco same as Galicia, Spain?
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 7:49 AM

Two pictures of dwellings.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1293/huthuejuquilla.jpg
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4937/hutgaliciaspain.jpg

First picture is a hut in Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.   Second picture is a hut with similar design in Galicia, Spain

Note that the state of Jalisco in Mexico's old name is "Nueva Galicia"     New Galicia.

But could that type of dwelling in Huejuquilla get its origins from the Europe settlers from Spain that came to Huejuquilla back during

Thank you Jonathan...
Tino and I would like to add our wishes for a Joyous and Happy Easter to each and every member of this wonderful group...
Happy Easter.
Tino and Pat Corbera

Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour

----- Original Message -----
From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:05:29 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Happy Easter

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan

Thank you Jonathan...
Tino and I would like to add our wishes for a Joyous and Happy Easter to each and every member of this wonderful group...
Happy Easter.
Tino and Pat Corbera

Life Is A Journey...Not A Guided Tour

----- Original Message -----
From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:05:29 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Happy Easter

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan

Thank you so very much, Jonathan.  I would also like to extend my best wishes to all!   Alice

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, jonathan@mexicanfhr.com wrote:

From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Happy Easter
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 2:05 PM

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan

Can anybody tell me how to get there from the USA?

Raquel,
I descend from Cayetano Ruiz & Juana Rubalcaba (through Diego's sister Eusebia, who married Nicolas Vazquez de Mercado)...

I have three Diegos Ruiz:
1) Diego (I) - Cayetano's father, married Ana Gonzalez
2) Diego (II) - Cayetano's brother
3) Diego (III) - whom you believe is your ancestor...

I have not found any marriage for your Diego, but I can tell you that Cayetano was married twice:

1) Juana de Rubalcava, who died c. 1732
2) Ana Lugarda Vazquez de Mercado - married 15 Feb 1733 in Nochistlan
Note on this 2nd marriage: Ana Lugarda was Diego (III)'s son-in-law's sister [in other words: Ana Lugarda was sister to my Nicolas Vazquez de Mercado above, who married Eusebia, your potential Diego's sister!!]

I also descend from Diego's second marriage to Ana Lugarda, so I have collected all the names on this family that have been indexed. I have not researched the Cuquio films yet, but maybe you and I can put two-and-two together and I can help you confirm your suspicion.

lmk

Hi Raquel,

There’s a Ruiz Saavedra from Zacatecas who took a DNA test, and came out
R1b. Is this someone in your family?

Ricardo Rodríguez

Cronista Oficial de Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

De: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Raquel Ruiz
Enviado el: jueves, 21 de abril de 2011 9:56 PM
Para: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Y DNA Ruiz

My Ruiz's line, descending from Diego Ruiz, c. 1712, Yahualica, Jal is
R1b1a2a1a1a(R U106 for short). I believe but as yet cannot prove that he is
the son of Cayetano Ruiz, who married Juana Rubalcaba in Cuquio, Jalisco, on
4 Feb 1712. If male out there is a direct descendent of Cayetano Ruiz and
knows his haplogroup, I would love to see if there is a match. So far none
has shown up in Ysearch or the Genealogy of Mexico surname project. I know
its a long shot, but....

I would also like to know this. I think they might be in Guanajuato try places
like Silao, Leon or Guanajuato. Just shows one person can't ignore all these
places nearby. Now you find me studying Obispado de Michoacan, Nueva
Galicia and Mexico City. Covers a large area of land.

Daniel Méndez Camino

George,
Once again thanks for your unselfishness in sharing the transcripts of the matrimonial investigations. Just like Daniel, I've been able to advance in many of my lines thanks to your efforts.

Sincerely

Jaime Alvarado

Thank you George for your time and effort every little helps when it
comes to genealogy. I have advanced my Rangel line back to ca.
1625 thanks to your post.

Daniel Méndez Camino

 
RamÓn

________________________________
From: "gpf13@aol.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 10:37:09 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes Matrimonial Investigations 1700 -
1200

I have just posted the second installment to my key to the Aguascalientes
matrimonial investigations. This covers the period of 1700 to 1720, and
represents about 1500 marriage investigations.

The entries are in chronological order.

The file is in the Files area, under Reference Materials, Aguascalientes
Matrimonial Investigations. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014

This is a pdf file of 215 pages. The references are to volume and image number
as posted on Family Search.

The file can be searched using the search feature of Adobe Acrobat Reader.
Spelling generally follows the spelling of the original record. For example,
Lopez could be either Lopez or Lopes. The obvious abbreviations have been
spelled out.

George Fulton

Excellent news. Thank you very much for sharing.

Armando

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:37 AM, wrote:

> I have just posted the second installment to my key to the Aguascalientes
> matrimonial investigations. This covers the period of 1700 to 1720, and
> represents about 1500 marriage investigations.
>
> The entries are in chronological order.
>
> The file is in the Files area, under Reference Materials, Aguascalientes
> Matrimonial Investigations. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014
>
> This is a pdf file of 215 pages. The references are to volume and image
> number as posted on Family Search.
>
> The file can be searched using the search feature of Adobe Acrobat Reader.
> Spelling generally follows the spelling of the original record. For example,
> Lopez could be either Lopez or Lopes. The obvious abbreviations have been
> spelled out.
>
> George Fulton
>

For Raquel Ruiz and Daniel:

Lucas CONTRERAS and Joana Maria GONSALES Masias were described as vesinos de Nochistlan as the padrinos of Joseph Manuel CALBILLO Salado, baptized 18? Feb 1703, hijo legitimo de Eugenio [MARTINES de] CALBILLO y Gertrudis [RUIS DE ESPARSA] SALADO in Nochistlan.

Also - Lucas CONTRERAS and his wife had two daughters named Rosa Maria, the first one baptized 5 Jan 1700, and the second 30 Aug 1706, both in Zacatecas.

Gloria Delgado

Hi Raquel:

I have some info on Lucas Contreras and Juana Macias Valades they
were residents in Nochistlan where they baptized several children.
Juana does appear couple times Gonzalez-Macias. So this might
be another vital clue. I do not have anyinfo beyond this point.
Were you able to find out the parents of Feliciana Alonso de los Hinojos?
I'd be interested in this if you have.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Hola Joseph Puentes, perdón por contestar hasta ahora, pero estaba de viaje y no disponía de tiempo para hacerlo; pero estoy dispuesto a ayudar en el proyecto de indexación de archivos de Jalisco. Dime que hay que hacer para empezar a trabajar en este proyecto tan importante para todos nosotros.

L.C.P. Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México.
Tel.: 3781095311
www.facebook.com/jorgeluis.ramirezgomez

Me gustaria poder aportar algo a este excelente proyecto, me
interesaria mucho colaborar para jalisco.
--
Omar Ruelas Santa Cruz

Azcapotzalco
Distrito Federal, México
------------------------------------
E-mail: omar.ruelas@gmail.com
MSN Messenger: omar.ruelas@gmail.com
Skype: omar-ruelas
Página web [En construcción]:
http://www.omarruelassantacruz.com/

Joseph,
Con gusto participo para dar un poco de lo mucho que he recibido.

Jaime Alvarado

Hi Joseph,

I can help, too.

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes
>Sent: Apr 6, 2011 6:32 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
>
>Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
>Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
>México
>
>Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
>indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
>Aguascalientes
>
>Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
>que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
>para un proyecto tan importante.
>
>Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
>30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
>registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
>Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los

Hey Joseph, count me in. I've indexed some of the 1930 Mexican Census in the past, and I would love to do my part on this project.I hope the chosen state is Jalisco, but if not, I'll be happy to help with Aguascalientes and Zacatecas as well.
 
Steve in NC.

--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Joseph Puentes wrote:

From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 9:32 PM

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me

cunenten conmigo, para Jalisco y Guanajuato, con mucho gusto vuelvo a ayudar
ya lo hize para Chihuahua.
Espero notificacion
Sylvia H Corona Cortes

2011/4/6 Joseph Puentes

> Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
> Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
> México
>
> Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación
> específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes
>
> Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que
> todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un
> proyecto tan importante.
>
> Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30
> personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los registros
> de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
> Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los
> miembros
>
> Si deseas ver de qué se trata

Hello Daniel - you can count me in!

 
Yolanda

________________________________
From: Daniel Méndez Camino
To: Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Thanks Joseph,

It's good to hear about Jalisco. Count me in. Now I have extra time on my hands.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Please add me on to yur list. Let me know when to start and how to get into the site.

Thank You,
Hope

Con gusto puedo contribuir media hora diaria. Ya hice la prueba. Gracias por invitarnos a devolver un poquito de lo mucho que recibimos.
Angelina Casillas

Joseph:
Cuenta conmigo.
Saludos Cordiales
Jose Luis Felix

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:32:12 -0400
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
>
> Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
> Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
> México
>
> Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
> indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
> Aguascalientes
>
> Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
> que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
> para un proyecto tan importante.
>
> Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
> 30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
> registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
> Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería

I am willing to commit one hour per week on this project for Jalisco records.
Eloise Gomez Reyes

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo México
>
> Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes
>
> Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un proyecto tan importante.
>
> Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes
>
> Si podemos encontrar 30 personas sería aproximadamente el 5% de los miembros
>
> Si deseas ver de qué se trata es necesario que

Cuenta conmigo Joseph.

Si es posible quisiera ayudar con los estados de Zacatecas y Jalisco. Si no se
pude con qualquiera.

Juan Aguayo

------ Original Message ------
Received: 06:33 PM PDT, 04/06/2011
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
para un proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y

Count Me In

Rafael Meraz

I'm up for it because LDS has has helped so much with my research.
-Ruben Robles

Joseph,

You can count me in ... I just can't say no to something this exciting!

-Angelina-

Joseph,

Wow, 600 members in Nuestros Ranchos, I remember in 2003 when it was a very
small family, we've grown into a very large and supportive familia.

Sign me up for Zacatecas or any other Mexican State, I'm in.

Gracias Joseph!!

Alicia

________________________________
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 6:32:12 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo Derbez que
es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de indexación
específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo que
todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil para un
proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a 30
personas

Joseph,

It is a natural project for those associated with Nuestros Ranchos --- who benefit immensibly from the resorces of the LDS Family Search resources --- to participate in this indexation activity.

I will be pleased to join with you and others in making an open-ended personal commitment of a minimum of 1 hour per week in Nuestros Ranchos' Jalisco Indexation work.

Saludos,

Efrain Conrique
conrique1@earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes
>Sent: Apr 6, 2011 6:32 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing
>
>Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
>Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
>México
>
>Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
>indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
>Aguascalientes
>
>Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
>que

Count me in! Cuenten conmigo.

R. Rodríguez

De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Joseph
Puentes
Enviado el: miércoles, 06 de abril de 2011 8:32 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Project Nuestros Ranchos: LDS Indexing

Gracias a Welester G. Alvarado estamos en contacto con el Sr. Rodolfo
Derbez que es el responsable directo del Proyecto de Indexación en todo
México

Tenemos una gran oportunidad para involucrarnos en registros de
indexación específicamente para los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y
Aguascalientes

Hay un compromiso mínimo de 30 minutos de trabajo por semana, pero creo
que todos estarán de acuerdo en que 30 minutos es un compromiso fácil
para un proyecto tan importante.

Actualmente hay más de 600 miembros del grupo y me gustaría encontrar a
30 personas en el grupo dispuestos a trabajar en la indexación de los
registros de los Estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o

Thanks Joseph,

It's good to hear about Jalisco. Count me in. Now I have extra time on my hands.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Estimado Joseph Puentes cuenta conmigo.. si posible para jalisco.. ya sé como se hace ya tengo gargado el programa y estoy dada de alta
Lety Reynoso

>

Maria,

Have you looked in Nochistlan. They are so close and in earlier times, many of
the people in the surrounding areas went to Nochistlan to get married and to
register their children for baptism. Nochistlan has many Chavez and not too many
Leon's that I can recall.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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From: Maria Leon
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 6:59:50 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia Leon-Chavez en Teocaltiche, Jalisco

Hello everyone,

I have been trying to find my way through my family tree. My mother's side
has been okay somewhat, however my father's side has stumped me. I can't go
past my great-grandparents. I'm doing research on the last names of Leon,
Chavez in Teocaltiche and Macias, Tisnado in Huejotitan, Jalisco.

First in Teocaltiche:
My father is the oldest of 11 children born to Jose Guadalupe Leon Chavez
(born 1916) and Ramona Macias. According to family lore, Ramona was a
servant or maid at the Leon

I can only reply to the question re the children with multiple surnames. I
am a social worker and work with many families with the variety of ages and
surnames such as this one. The older chilidren could be younger full or
half siblings of the adults or children of Felipa from prior
relationships. The younger children could be children of the adults (or
older teens), half siblings or cousins to each other (except for the two
with Loma children, they may be full siblings). They may be "hijo
naturales" of different fathers who gave them their surnames, or "padre no
conocidos" with their mother's surnames. Sometimes they are full siblings
with different last names because the mother had split with the father
before the child was born and she was too angry at him to acknowledge him as
the father of the child, or because the father was angry at her and wouldn't
acknowledge that child. Of course, they could also be step-children of
Matias that he raised himself for some reason, orphaned

----- Original Message -----
From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Una rama de los Hernández Gamiño en Zamora, Obispado de Michoacán

Spanish then english translation

Castellano:

Estimado compañeros:

Revisando los archivos parroquiales del solar novohispano de mi familia paterna encontré varios actas de interés. Uno es el matrimonio de Nicolás Hernández Gamiño.

Textualmente dice:

En 18 del mes de março de 1650 case infaciae. . .Nicolás Hernándes Gamiño español natural de la villa de León con Juana de Garfias hija legitima de Gonsalo Peres de Garfias y Geronima Calderón españoles. Testigos Juan Martín Barragán regidor desta villa y Diego de Ochoa Garibay y Pedro Gutierres de Robles. Padrinos Diego de Garibay y su muger doña Juana Palomino españoles. [rúbrica Miguel Martín Varragán].

Nicolás Hernández Gamiño era hijo de Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Gómez

----- Original Message -----
From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Una rama de los Hernández Gamiño en Zamora, Obispado de Michoacán

Spanish then english translation

Castellano:

Estimado compañeros:

Revisando los archivos parroquiales del solar novohispano de mi familia paterna encontré varios actas de interés. Uno es el matrimonio de Nicolás Hernández Gamiño.

Textualmente dice:

En 18 del mes de março de 1650 case infaciae. . .Nicolás Hernándes Gamiño español natural de la villa de León con Juana de Garfias hija legitima de Gonsalo Peres de Garfias y Geronima Calderón españoles. Testigos Juan Martín Barragán regidor desta villa y Diego de Ochoa Garibay y Pedro Gutierres de Robles. Padrinos Diego de Garibay y su muger doña Juana Palomino españoles. [rúbrica Miguel Martín Varragán].

Nicolás Hernández Gamiño era hijo de Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Gómez

Doesn't December 16th start with the Christmas Posadas?

Hola Emilie,

Laguenses are those of us from Lagos de Moreno. The u is silent in
this case unlike güero which is pronounced like wero using English
sounds. Therefore pronounced la-gen-se with a g like lagos.

Saludos,
Armando

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
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> Can someone tell me what is meant by "laguense" in the excerpt below?
>
> 57Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio. Los cuadernos de visita del laguense Mateo José de Arteaga a 17 pueblos del sur de Jalisco en 1767 [Guadalajara, Jal., Méx.] Universidad de Guadalajara : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes 1999
>
> Also, I found in a marriage for a couple in Jerez where it says "no fueron velados por ser tiempo prohibido".  What is meant by that?  Why would a certain span of time prohibit the nuptial benediction?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Halguien puede explicar que es "laguense"?  Y tambien, porque "no velados por ser tiempo prohibido".  Porque hay tiempo de prohibir bendiciones nuptiales?
>
> Gracias