Hello Everyone, I came across the Guadalajara Census Project and was wondering if anyone has ever ordered the CD-ROM? If so, is it well worth it? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Carol
Hi Maria,
If you have time......would you please look up the surname "LIENDO" and sometimes it was spelled "LIENDRO"........I am at a big roadblock with this surname in Zacatecas in the late 1600s and the 1700s. From Zacatecas they went on to Saltillo but I am needing anything in Zacatecas that I can find......Thanks, Maria.......you are so generous!
Hugs,
Josie
On Sep 22, 2012, at 5:04 PM, general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:
Hey all,
I'm having problems with FamilySearch.org. Have they changed format or something? I'm looking up images and all I get are black pages. I thought it was the new side tool to zoom in/out. This page, for example, is all black. So is every other page I go on. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-11664-10?cc=1410092&wc…
I thought I saw this topic posted here, but when I went to look again, I couldn't find it.
Help? :-(
Laura Gonzalez
ALGUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR A PALEOGRAFIAR LA PARTIDA DE MATRIMONIO DE JUAN BECERRA Y DE RITA ISABEL ALVAREZ DE LA CRUZ Y DIAZ CASTELLANOS, ELLA HIJA DE CRISTOBAL ALVAREZ DE LA CRUZ Y DE ESTRADA Y DE MARIA ANNA ALVAREZ DE LA CRUZ o DIAZ CASTELLANOS-ALVAREZ DE LA CRUZ, YA QUE LOS PADRES DE JUAN NO LE ENTIENDO, SE CASARON EL 14 DE OCTUBRE DE 1743 EN ATOTONILCO, DE ANTEMANO GRACIAS.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18428-31093-16?cc=1874591&wc…
I would like to introduce myself..my name is Juanita Torrez Henniger. We believe that part of my family orginiated from Augascalients and San Luis Potosi. I have been searching for my roots for a few years now. Sometimes the research has been easy, but for my great grandmother's family Tobar or Tovar I have hit a wall. My great grandmother (Romona Tobar/Tovar) passed away one year before I was born so I never got to know her. Romana married Pilar Valdez who was born in San Luis Potosi in 1889. Pilar's parents were Pedro Valdez and Matina Sandate. Pilar and Romona immigrated to Texas in 1912 bringing with them their two daughters Eliza who was born in Piedras Negras (1906) and Herlinda (1912). I'm looking for birth cerificates, bastimal records, marriage records anything. I've searched Family Search, Ancestry.com and other sites.
I have been able to research the Valdez side of the family, but have not been able to get far on Sandate or the Tobar/Tovar of the family. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that Pilar worked on the railroads. I have tried to find records for railroads that would list the mexican workers, but have not been able to find that either. One last thing, my Grandfather Esteban always would describe referred to my Great Grandmother Romona as an Indian. Well there I omitted a word he always used to describe her ;) but it seem Great Grandma did not care for her son-in-law very much and had quite a temper.
Once again the families I'm researching are the Tobar/Tovar and the Sandates. Thank you and I look forward to meeting everyone.
For those interested in following Los Altos de Jalisco, Northern
California/Sacramento region, you may want to review the life of Martin
Ramirez, incredible artist who spent the later part of his life in an
institution as a result of schizophrenia.
The limited info on his life, indicates he fled Mexico around 1925 after
the Cristero period and was recognized for his work after his death when
much of his work was shown in New York, at the Crocker in Sacramento ...
Here are the links though other's may have info on his geneology..
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/06.20.07/martin-ramirez-0725.html
"""In recent years, thanks to the tireless research of Víctor M. Espinosa
(whose essay, with Kristin E. Espinosa, in the catalog for the show is
invaluable), many particulars about Ramírez have come into focus. He was
born in 1895 in Rincon de Velázquez near the small town of Tepatitlán, east
of Guadalajara in the state of Jalisco.
Los Altos de Jalisco, the region of his birth, maintained a strong Catholic
tradition, and Ramírez absorbed a great deal of Catholic imagery. Much of
that early exposure to church statues and paintings showed up years later in
his art, especially in his monumental paintings of Our Lady of the
Immaculate Conception. A photograph in the Heritage Plaza exhibit shows a
local statue of the Virgin with the iconographic detail of Mary stepping on
the serpenta detail that Ramírez uses several times in his Madonna
portraits. """
Estoy buscando más información de una familia con el apellido Arias en Aguascalientes a principios de los 1800s. Tengo apuntado a José Miguel Arias Moreno, originario y vecino de la villa de Aguascalientes, hijo legítimo de Antonio Arias y Guadalupe Moreno, casado el 14 de febrero de 1818 en Aguscalientes, AGS, con Guadalupe Dueñas Lara, hija de José Toribio Dueñas Nava y Bonifacia Lara y Lira.
Me pregunto si alguien sabrá algo más de estos Arias, en especial si tienen relación con los Arias de Avella / Arias de Orozco, de los cuáles también desciendo [A través de dos de las hijas de Juan Arias de Avella Valdés y su esposa María Orozco]
Les agradezco su atención y espero sus comentarios.
[PS. Recién subí un nuevo GedCom con más ancestros de la zona, disponible para todos los que quieran revisarlo]
Greetings fellow geneaologists!
Hi my name is Mario. The names I am researching are Valadez and Berumen in Jerez, Susticacan, and Tepetongo(Zac).
For the Jalisco part of my family, my interest are in the Gomez Family of Ayutla.
Looking forward to corresponding with everyone.
my best,
Mario
Alguien sabe donde puedo localizar los archivos de nacimientos (registro civil) registrados en Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco del año 1872 hasta el 1875. Gracias.
Does anybody know where I can locate the birth records (civil registration) from Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco from the year 1872 through 1875. Thanks.
Saludoos,
Favián.
Everyone needs to send in a properly formatted genealogy report. Look below for just one of the various standard formats.
[[Todos tienen que mandar un reporte en formato estandarizado de genealogia Mire abajo para un ejemplo de los varios formatos estandarizados]]
It is very important that no living people be included in your report (for security reasons) and please also send me your username.
[[Es importante que no hay ninguna persona que todavia vive en su reporte (por razones de seguridad) y que tambien me mandas su nombre de usario.]]
It is ok to use Oral History and to give approximate information if you don't have the exact information. Use this to approximate: In times past young people married at 20 years of age or younger and they had children more or less every other year.
[[Esta bien si usas Historia Oral y que das informacion approxima si no tienes la informacion exacta. Usa esto para dar approxima informacion: en dias antes jovenes se casaron de edad de veinte anos o mas jovenes. Y tubieron ninos casi mas or menos a uno cada dos anos.]]
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Descendants of Francisco Ignacio de Gordoa
Generation No. 1
1.Francisco Ignacio de Gordoa was born Abt. XX in la region vasca de Espa
Hola Primos:
Les pido su ayuda, si algen sabe en donde estan las actas de registro civil de chinampas, y cienega de mata para los años 1882 al 1893.
Ya vi que hay unos años que tienen actas de los primeros seis meses en Ojuelos. y unos que tienen los ultimos seis meses. Tambien me di cuenta de las actas de registro civel de cienega de Mata que existen en lagos de moreno. Pero no puedo encontrar doden se encuentranlos meses y años que faltan. Como ya saben en Cienega de mata jalisco, no mas estan matrimonios, y nada mas un año.
Gracias por su ayuda de antemano.
mary caraveo
Hey Peeps...
I will be deleting my "scooterpie" email account and replacing it with this:
Please make a note of it....
Peggy
How could I obtain the birth certificate of my father, born in Sombrerete, Zac. and baptized at the parroquia de San Juan Bautista?
I have recently been asked for nearly US$200, which I find excessive.
Anybody? Please help!
I also need to know where I could find birth/baptism records for Aguascalientes.
Where would we look for them? Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
Para festejar los días patrios de nuestro lindo México:
Suave Patria, del zacatecano Ramón López Velarde
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rGDKgCALZ8
Saludos a todos
Luis A. Valdes
I found this website to be very informative in explaining the various DNA linking of individuals...Mutations and Haplotypes ...
Genetic Science Learning Center
University of Utah
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/extras/molgen/mutation_haplotype…
Pat Silva Corbera
Does anyone know where I can search for a book on the history of San Diego de Alejandria, Jalisco called "La cruz de Piedra." I tried on Amazon, at hispanic bookstores here and could not find it. If anyone can help. I would appreciate it.
Thank you.
Hello Everyone, I guess I was not paying attention but where can I find Aguascalientes records on familyseach.org/collection/list. I cant find it there , did they place them with another state or just couldn't get to them.
Ronnie Reynoso
This is a late reply to Randy McNeal's message. I too just received a partial results on my Y-DNA testing. I too am surprised at
the conclusions of the test results. Most of my genelogical surnames go back to Northern Spain for about 500 years. The DNA
tests list a whole lot of surnames for Scottish, Irish, English. There are some Dutch, Czech, Polish, Hungarian, Finnish, Icelandic
surnames linked as well. Looking at the geographic migratory history of humans provided in the report provides some understanding
as to how and why there can be a difference. The Northern European surnames are much older than my Hispanic names. Changing of
names, missing genealogical records, clerical errors, the Inquisition, wars, famines, invasions may have played a role in the differences between the DNA records and genealogical records. Just when I thought the puzzle pieces were coming together.
By the way Mr. McNeal, I have a "Neal" in my haplogroup, my wife's maiden name is O'Neal. When you get back to the creation period we really are all related.
I am purchasing a book on understanding your DNA results. It is definitely needed by me.
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George Fulton
Pleasanton
Hi, I've read the film entry of Prudencio Marin de Errera where he married
Nicolaza Paula San Martin Estrada where he married in 1757
It says "no resulto impedimento alguno" and does not mention that he was a
"viudo".
Also, it says he was vecino del rancho de "Ojo dela rana"
It appears he might have been born about 1744
She was from the _________ dela Ena?
His father was Luis Marin Herrera and mother Maria Roza Serrano (both
deceased by 1757)
Her father was Gregorio San Martin Estrada and Maria Elena Magallanas
I am trying to figure out where they all were born??? Although both
Prudencio and Nicolaza are listed as "Espanoles", I truly doubt they were born in
Spain....
The reason I think that Prudencio might have been married several times is
that in batch number C607125, film number 443811 - a grandaughter born in 1817
(Maria Felipa de los Dolores) was born to PRUDENCIO HERRERA and MANUELA
ESTRADA and RODUCINDO DE ROBLES and PAULINA CABALLERO - the father was LUIS
HERRERA and RUFINA ROBLES. Additionally, there was another granchild born in 1825
with the same data: Jose Andres Herrera Robles - same parents.
But then in 1829, once again a grandchild was born Jose Francisco Herrera
Robles to Luis Herrera, and it states that the grandparents were Prudencio
Herrera and Paula Estrada.
Luis Herrera (son of Prudencio) was a widower when he married Rufina de
Robles.
Message from elviraz elviraz@...
To Everyone who mentioned the unfilmed records in Zacatecas in our areas of
interest:
Now is the time for action. Please! Can anyone give me specifics? Book
numbers pages, loose pages, etc.
I sent an e-mail to Benicio Samuel Sanchez Garcia regarding what was
said. He is interested and would like specifics. When he asks he usually
does something about it. He is in a position to do. The email below is
what I had sent him. I guess no one contacted him from this group. Please
send me (or him if you prefer, mentioning this e-mail) of the documents or
books that need to be filmed, loose pages, where they are, who is in charge
at the locale, phone numbers or address if you have it, and contact person.
Please send me as much information as you have on hand about the unfilmed
documents or books.
I believe he was expecting me to send the information needed. I sent him
pat o the info as a heads up but not all the e-mails from the group
discussing the need to film some more documents.
Can you all do this ASAP? I would like to take advantage of this since
I believe Mr. Sanchez is in a position to help us and has expressed an
interest. He mentions the book found in Santiago, Nuevo Leon. I am assuming
that that his outfit is gettiing ready to microfil again. Let's take
advantage of that; who knows, we might find some more family!
The following is the e-mail I received from him today. Below it is my
original e-mail to him.
Elvira
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I have my grandmothers birth certificate from 1902 my great grandfather
was Casimiro Marquez Ramires San Miguel el Alto, Jalisco. His parent were:
Miguel Marquez & Feliciana Ramires marriage 5-28-1849 San Miguel el Alto
children:
Casimira Marques Ramires birth 17 Aug 1856 [film 279428]
Anastacia Marques Ramires birth 19 Apr 1860
Casimiro Marques Ramires birth 06 Mar 1862
Juana Marques Ramires birth 03 Nov 1867
Casimiros 1st marriage was with Ma Santos Gonzalez had the following children:
Emilio,Pascual, Dario, Eustacia, Eligia, Ma En Gracia
Casimiros 2nd marriage was with Gabriela Hernandez from San Miguel her parents were Francisco Hernandez and Teresa Munoz. They had 2 children Candelaria and Ma Carmen
Hernandez Marquez.
I did get an email from a direct family member nephew Maximino Ramirez and only remembers his granfather Pedro telling him that he had much affection for the Marquez family. I did verify that through his great grandfather Victoriano Ramirez dad Carlos Ramirez Ramirez parents were Mariano Ramirez and Candelaria Ramirez. Through his information Pedro Ramirez Lopez married Maria Gonzalez Lopez and had many children in Mexico City, Guadalajara, Baja Ca. as well as in Los Angeles.
En estos dias hice una queja a la empresa LuLu que distribuye el libro de Familias antiguas de Tlaltenango, ya que hice mi pedido desde el 14 de junio de este ano y aun no lo he recibido, la empresa se contacto conmigo y amablemente me informo que me enviarian nuevamente el libro ya que el otro se perdio en el camino. Lo mejor para mi fue que lo recibire sin ningun costo extra.
Gracias
there was a book in our links section that had a graf showing the tribes and which of the 4 Native American Haplogroups their women had. I think it was called something abt the Red Road? I tried getting into it and the link sent me somewhere else.. Can anyone tell me how to access this book again..
thank you, Linda in Everett